Originally posted by -Pr-
shrugI really don't get why you're arguing this. You asked me to be specific, and I was, regardless of you being wrong.
What's to discuss?
How Superman was apparently rebooted and yet none of his regular comics recognised it?
How about getting back on topic?
his other comics did recognize it and this is getting argued cause you like to strong arm debates. i show you a statement from DC saying it's a reboot and i'm wrong. you're funny.
back on topic? okay:
Hulk has no upper strength limit= Hulk is stronger
Superman has limits and has to sundip = superman is weaker
Originally posted by jedi90
his other comics did recognize it and this is getting argued cause you like to strong arm debates. i show you a statement from DC saying it's a reboot and i'm wrong. you're funny.back on topic? okay:
Hulk has no upper strength limit= Hulk is stronger
Superman has limits and has to sundip = superman is weaker
Don't bash again.
It would be interesting to see Marvel versus DC written for WorldBreaker Hulk against 2003-2011 Superman, current DCnU Superman, OR Bronze Age Superman if these two could mix it up on a planet or place free of innocents. Especially considering even Savage Hulk scored a flash knockout of BronzeBlue back when they first fought ...
Greg Pak is probably more responsible for Hulk being viewed as Superman's superior in physical strength than any single writer of the past 10 years.
Originally posted by Newjak
Not really true, most heroes have dynamic strength at this level.And Hulk obvious has limits as he got punked by Zeus as easily as Zeus has punked his son Hercules.
Hulk wasn't their to fight Zeus and that was explained in the story.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
I agree but to less of an extent. Superman has shown limits from time to time, as Greg Pak showed we still haven't seen the Hulk's limit yet.
Pak is a nut, tbh, but he has pushed Hulk, as in, WBH, to ridiculous heights.
I don't agree that Superman's limits have really been shown, though. Like anyone the plot always comes first.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
I agree but to less of an extent. Superman has shown limits from time to time, as Greg Pak showed we still haven't seen the Hulk's limit yet.
No. Just the opposite.
Pak showed us Hulk's limits. He was no longer holding back.
And even with that strength, he's still not at cosmic levels. So this no-limits fallacy for him needs to stop.
'Can get stronger than any superhero'. What is this based on?
That means even if there's a hero that's as strong as the living tribunal (would be stupid, but still) that Hulk could eventually surpass him, simply because he has the label of 'hero'?
Originally posted by CosmicComet
No. Just the opposite.Pak showed us Hulk's limits. He was no longer holding back.
And even with that strength, he's still not at cosmic levels. So this no-limits fallacy for him needs to stop.
'Can get stronger than any superhero'. What is this based on?
That means even if there's a hero that's as strong as the living tribunal (would be stupid, but still) that Hulk could eventually surpass him, simply because he has the label of 'hero'?
Wait, what?
I'm confused, how did Pak show Hulk's limit? At no point, was there any indication that World Breaker Hulk was his peak. A fanboy like Pak wouldn't even imply it.
Hiroim taught Hulk how to control and channel his rage, which is why Green Scar could hold his own power in check on top of the Banner persona but that doesn't change anything.