Wolverine no Claws/adbone vs batman no belt

"Daredevil would be tougher for Wolverine than Elektra, but he has a strong chance against him too. Batman has been claimed to have a radar sense, but it really isn't even close to Daredevil's level."

He would be tougher than Elektra, but he'd still slaughter Wolverine. I haven't heard of Batman having that 'radar' sense, but if it is true you are right in the sense that it's no where near DD's.

"Logan has the advantage. Weapons, healing factor, the willingness to kill."

Willingness to kill, THAT is true. Something that he definetely has that Bruce hasn't.

"wolverine proves it all the time.
he trained kitty pride to be somewhat of a samurai"

That's still not proving it, b/c he trained her 'somewhat' to be a samurai. I could train someone to be an awesome Tennis player or athlete in general, that doesn't mean that I'm awesome at it myself (although in that dept. i am). For example, one of my old highschool coachs wasn't such a good player, but he was an awesome coach. And it works both ways. Plus, Bruce has trained Dick, or Tim and I'm sure others...

Most of your posts have been well thought out, so I try to cut you some slack, but apparently you don't the same for me.

I said, BENCH PRESS SHIRTS. Ryan Kenelly has been known to bench press over 1000lbs in REAL LIFE. But this is witha BENCH PRESS SHIRT, like I mentioned in my other post.

In anycase, the exact numbers are not important, the idea is. Captain America and Batman are DEAD even, they are the PEAK human level. That means they're the equivalent of like an olympic athelete in any event....This puts their bench press around 800lbs. Captain America POSSIBLY edges out batman by a sliver...only because the super soldier serum guarantees that his physique remains at the absolute peak. Batman must vigourously excercise, which he does.

Now Wolverine is also at PEAK human level, but with a slight advantage due to his healing factor. If you had that healing factor, you're just going to be able to build more muscle...plain and simple.

And Daredevil and Elektra beat wolverine FLAT OUT? THis is the general concensus? Somehow I don't think that's right. I'd give psylocke the edge over elektra, and Wolverine will most definitely take her down 7/10 times.

Wolverine edges out Batman and Captain America in a fight. That's just the plain and simple truth. Good writing could have it go either way, but Wolverine is most definitely a slight favorite. He's on par as far as hand to hand combat skills, with more years of experience, and now he has claws and a ridiculous healing factor. For Christs sake, hasn't Wolverine gone up against Spider-Man? No freakin way in hell Batman or Captain America are taking spiderman down.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sentry
[B]99 Guinness record holder benched over 800 LBS. He also went underneath the front of a chevy or ford economy van, and pressed that as well.

Oh yea...here's food for thought.

What if Bane tried to take down Wolverine?

That's right, he would get his ASS handed to him. Even with his super strength, he will not be able to hold wolverine back. Wolverine would tear him to shreds.

Adamantium or not. In fact I tend to think Wolverine w/out the adamantium is a lot scarier. He's not stoppable by the normal human...you can't even shoot him through the brain...he'lll heal too fast. You have to sever his head and throw it far away (So says Professor X).
Bane has no chance....

and what happened w/ Bane vs Bats?

"Oh yea...here's food for thought.
What if Bane tried to take down Wolverine?
That's right, he would get his ASS handed to him. Even with his super strength, he will not be able to hold wolverine back. Wolverine would tear him to shreds.
Adamantium or not. In fact I tend to think Wolverine w/out the adamantium is a lot scarier. He's not stoppable by the normal human...you can't even shoot him through the brain...he'lll heal too fast. You have to sever his head and throw it far away (So says Professor X).
Bane has no chance....
and what happened w/ Bane vs Bats?"

Wouldn't this prove my point for the argument on strenth being an overrated factor (as I've previously said)?

Are you also saying that Logan heals faster with out the adamantium? I am not an expert on him so I dont know, but if I had to guess, i would think that he heals faster with the Adamantium b/c of the fact that the AD. makes him less susceptible to damage, therefore he has to heal less etc. etc... So if my theory is correct than wouldnt it take Logan weeks to recover from a bullet wound in the head? I mean with the AD doenst it take him a while?(if it goes through his head in the first place. I dont know where the AD skeleton covers up to). So imagine without it.

Sorry but I still stick with my decision of Bruce over Logan.

I know that Bane severely injured Bruce. (isnt that why he had to take a significant time off, and then later re-trained with Shiva, where she ended up framing him/testing him by killing a Master of a school and then he had to fight off his students one by one.) Or something along those lines. But just from thinking about it, I can't imagine Bruce trying to fight him strength to strenght, thats kinda stupid. And i think if Logan tried doing the same, he'd get hurt too (strength - strength)...

BTW sorry if i came off rude or arrogant, my apologies...

Yeaaaaaa ok buddy, so would you also go and say that Logan can defeat Capt. America, or Daredevil? I dont think so. Maybe Bruce couldn't defeat Matt M., but he's a lot closer to him than Logan is. The fact is that Logan isn't on his level, despite being a mere mortal...
Hmm, I wonder what you'd say if you gave Bruce a healing factor aswell?"

In a fist fight, yes without his sheild tha cap is still a badass but logan has every bit as much of a chance of beating him as he does batman, Daredevil too, although DD's got his senses he would tire, and logans factor would compensate. And I already said in terms of h2h the only thing that gives wolverine an advantage besides his senses, and experience, is his healing factor, that factor that tips the scales in his favor, otherwise the bats would most likely kick his ass all over town and back.

"And also, Wolverine can press, what, 800lbs? Whereas Bruce is on the same level as Captain America, who can press 1000lbs (press, w/e the term you use is). And even if they were on the same strength level, which wolvie is not, put that together with his speed and smarts and Bruce will be the victor. The only factor in this debate that leans towards wolverine is his healing factor..."

What!?!?!?! Bruce is a peak human logan is above peak. Give me one example where bruce is pushing up 1000pounds on bench,,,,just one,,,,any one. I don't know where you got the idea that a normal guy,,,,even in comic books, could do such an absurd thing.

"So are you saying that Logan could best Cap. America in a fight as well?!? Thats pretty funny....."

Well honestly I think that logan has as much training and experience if not more, it's just that cap uses his strategic brain wayyyyyyy to well for a guy like wolvie to easily overcome. it's hard to explain but i hope you get what I'm reffering to.

"He is much stronger then Batman and crossovers that show Batman and Cap as equals have no weight at all since they aren't cannon; if they were then Wolverine is married to Witchblade."

I am in agreement with both crossovers.....hmmmmm witchblade,,,,lucky hairy dog.

"True. Bone claws, not as strong or sharp as his adamantium claws, but certainly sharp enough to slice Batman."

just for info, those claws were written strong enough to cut through rock, and wolverine took a few full on shots from the Hulk without adamantium,,,,,good thing he's got that healing factor huh? short of pressure points and broken bones bruce really can't do much to wolverine to hurt him. and even so, wolverine recovered from being KOed in 7 seconds one time.

"Even Thanos' durability jobs to bone claw Wolverine."
TIS TRUE! all hale the Jobber claws!

"Zahit you sound like broken record... only you're much dumber."

hahahahaha

"Wolvie failed to even be a samurai"
pfffft since when? fallen samurai you mean. That's circumstantial, samurai code has nothing to do with this fight.

"Thats true, very true. But its not like bruce isnt patient enough to counterpunch. And how many times is the aggressor the one to fall flat first on his face...Many A Time...."

Perhaps, but how many times does the agressor sport a healing factor?

"Chuck Norris was seven times Karate Champion, he was above Lee IMO. Lee is just commercial hype and wasn't half as good as people like to think he was. My history teacher said that Chuck Norris beat Lee in a tournament or something when some kid was telling everyone how bad ass Lee was."

This is a falacy, when they fought, norris received broken bones, rist or ankle I forget,,,,,lee was far superior. but that's a diff debate entirely.

As far as wolverine's healing ability goes, it depends on how much energy he has, If wolverine is running on a high amounts of energy he can heal up in no time, and vissa versa, for example due to the influx of enormous amounts of energy wolverine regenerated from a single drop of blood in less than a minute. impressive, so if wolverine's well fed and rested before the fight, he'll be fine. Also without adamantium wolverine's body tries to compensate by kicking his healing abilities into overdrive, as well as his overall strength. This is why proffessor-x stated that wolverine w/bone could only be killed by decapitation. the bone claw wolverine has been the strongest manifestation of wolverine to date, and due to his overdriven healing factor he'd take this.

so tehn jinzin is w/ me.

This is so obvious, Wolverine is the winner. Batman fanboys just won't accept it. Listen, batman would get rocked by spiderman i a fight right? No question about it.... Well wolverine can stand a chance, end of story. Daredevil is also clearly the slight underdog vs Wolverine.

And how is benching 1000lbs absurd for a comic character? How is that absurd at all? Look at the physiques of these comic book characters. How is it absurd at all? A person who could do what batman does, I would actually expect him to be able to bench press more than 1000lbs in real life. Now you're putting on ur own mental block where you confuse the real world with the comics...you think...OMG 1000lbs!!! that's so much, who could bench that? Be realisitic.

Ok well be realistic, who can land from the heights batman has without losing his ability to walk. Who can punch as hard as batman can? Anyone who could, would surely be able to benchn 1000lbs. Batman is like 230lbs at 5% bodyfat. Someone like that in real life could bench around 700lbs

Lik I said give one instance where batman has ever pressed 1000 pounds,,,,just one.

Batman isn't a body builder, he's muscular but lean, he ain't putting up 1000 pounds, but regardless,,,,,,even if he could Wolverine w/bone took on hulk and held his own, even won one of those fights. Batman's not gonna win this time....an it pains me to say that,,,truley i love batman......(grumbles) stupid batman movie not coming out for months, stupid wb I'll get em for this......(grumble)

A question:

Since when did DareDevil become a (much) better fighter than
Wolverine or Batman?

How many years has DD spent in the East learning martial arts?

How many top-secret government intelligence/military agencies
has he been trained by?

How many super-strength fighters has he fought?

How many hours has he spent in high-tech training rooms?

How many super-heros has he trained with or fought along-side?

Sorry people, but as someone who has read plenty of DD comics,
I never saw him do anything that Logan or Batman couldn't do,
and better.

I think people are mistaken his hightened senses for hightened
physical abilities. He is no more agile or stronger than Wayne
or Logan (though he probably is more acrobatic than Logan). And
he certainly isn't anywhere near as well trained or experienced
as the two, especially Logan.

"He may bench press approximately 725 pounds and is the near-equal or equal of the world's best athlete in any Olympic event"

http://www.starnet-database.com/dbase_deo/profiles/batman/batman.html

Proving my point exactly. He is as strong as a human can be...so pressing 100lbs is NOT unrealistic at all. It doesn't matter if he's abodybuilder or not....moreover bodybuilders don't lift a lot either. IF you have ANY idea what you are talkin about you'd know that bodybuilding is about diet, powerlifting is about weight.

*that's me @ 153lbs on the right, lets see a picture of ur fool ass before you start talking anymore about weights.

Check out other stats...they will say captain america can press in excess of 800 pounds. That's just the measurement standard used, pressing amount. What do you wnt me to sat, batman can punch with etc lbs of force? WtF is going to understand that.

and you are an IDIOT. Read all my posts....I am the PRIME defender of Wolverine. I say wolverine will definitely win.

and as far the the bench press goes, Batman can be seen curling 200lbs in Batman beyond and he says he isn't full strength. You curl 200, you bench over 1K that's for sure. Ur an idiot, now I'm upset that you agree w/ me that wolverine is gonna win. Wish you were against me cuz ur a fool

PS: Kingburger... THANK YOU. I don't understand why people are saying DD could wipe the floor w/ wolverine. Where the HELL did they come up witht hat idea.

Originally posted by jinzin
Lik I said give one instance where batman has ever pressed 1000 pounds,,,,just one.

Batman isn't a body builder, he's muscular but lean, he ain't putting up 1000 pounds, but regardless,,,,,,even if he could Wolverine w/bone took on hulk and held his own, even won one of those fights. Batman's not gonna win this time....an it pains me to say that,,,truley i love batman......(grumbles) stupid batman movie not coming out for months, stupid wb I'll get em for this......(grumble)

"Listen, batman would get rocked by spiderman i a fight right? No question about it. Well wolverine can stand a chance, end of story."

1st Question. Yes he would lose to Spiderman
2nd Question. Wolverine may stand a chance compared to Batman, but he still goes down to Spiderman. Spiderman is faster, stronger, and smarter than Logan, also he could prob. fight him without being touched once.

"Daredevil is also clearly the slight underdog vs Wolverine."

Hell no. That's totally wrong. Not only does he have his vision, he's been trained by the best martial artist in the Marvel Universe. He's an olympic level athlete with EXTRAordinary agility, endurance, skill and balance. I mean he dropped Logan once with a karate chop. And if you want to bring in another point for DD, he's faught Sabertooth, who always give Wolv. problems.

"Since when did DareDevil become a (much) better fighter than
Wolverine or Batman?"

He has always been better, not a FAR way better, but much better in the sense that Hand - hand you shouldn't compare them. (When using weapons it is said that Batman will win between the 2 though)

"How many years has DD spent in the East learning martial arts?"

I'm not sure where he was trained. I just know by who. But why does it matter if he went to the east to learn?

"I think people are mistaken his hightened senses for hightened
physical abilities. He is no more agile or stronger than Wayne
or Logan (though he probably is more acrobatic than Logan). And
he certainly isn't anywhere near as well trained or experienced
as the two, especially Logan"

Just b/c he hasn't trained with as many things or people doesn't mean he wont rock both of them. (Just as in the debate of Wolv. VS Batman). also DD does have EXTRAordinary agility, endurance, skill and balance.

logans beat spiderman

why is strength even a big issue in this fight?
the better one would use more body leverage than strength

"logans beat spiderman"

No way. Logan falls to Parker.
He even took out Wolv./Nightcrawler/Storm/ and Prof. X, didn't he?

"why is strength even a big issue in this fight?
the better one would use more body leverage than strength"

It's not. Spidey has too many other weapons/abilities/factors that would contribute to his victory over Logan.

Originally posted by Jamaican
"Daredevil would be tougher for Wolverine than Elektra, but he has a strong chance against him too. Batman has been claimed to have a radar sense, but it really isn't even close to Daredevil's level."

He would be tougher than Elektra, but he'd still slaughter Wolverine. I haven't heard of Batman having that 'radar' sense, but if it is true you are right in the sense that it's no where near DD's.

Daredevil is skilled, but not to the extent of easily beating the likes of Wolverine. It was Stick (Daredevil/Elektra's mentor) that said if Wolverine wanted to go up the "hill" (or was it mountain?), they would easily have allowed him to join. That's respect.

I haven't heard of Batman having that 'radar' sense, but if it is true you are right in the sense that it's no where near DD's.

Last I saw this mentioning was by Black Canary (during the period when she was temporarily made a cripple) when she was fighting a character who was as skilled as Batman but lacked a "radar sense" (i.e. he failed to sense her presence behind a door when she attacked him).

That's still not proving it, b/c he trained her 'somewhat' to be a samurai. I could train someone to be an awesome Tennis player or athlete in general, that doesn't mean that I'm awesome at it myself (although in that dept. i am). For example, one of my old highschool coachs wasn't such a good player, but he was an awesome coach. And it works both ways. Plus, Bruce has trained Dick, or Tim and I'm sure others...

Wolverine is definitely a skilled teacher too. Storm, Shadowcat, and Nightcrawler have definitely benefited from it. I think what he taught them was basic/intermediate fighting techniques to hone and parry atttacks, and some ninjitsu.

"WtF is going to understand that?"

an I'm the idiot? hat didn't even make sense. You're pretty angry over something so trivial, got some pent up frustration inside ya huh?

"so pressing 100lbs is NOT unrealistic at all. "

I never said it was, but 1000 pounds is a different story.

"I am the PRIME defender of Wolverine"

you're making youself out to sound like some sort of super hero. lol

"that's me @ 153lbs on the right, lets see a picture of ur fool ass before you start talking anymore about weights. "

that's fine and nice that you are vein enough to go posting half naked pics of yourself on the net, but I'm slightly larger than you, and unless you want me to further humiliate you, I'm not going to post a pic.

"He may bench press approximately 725 pounds and is the near-equal or equal of the world's best athlete in any Olympic event."

this is from your link. Why would you give me a link that only further proves my point? bwhahahaha,,,,,and I'm the idiot...riiiiiiight.

The fact is if you're lifting weights regardless of power, whatnot you build muscle it's as simple as that. Batman is muscular but in the comic he's not as big as he is in the show. He needs to be lean in order to be as acrobatic and such as he is,,,,,,you still haven't answered my request.....where has abtman ever benched 1000 pounds.
Another thing don't use a cartoon to support your arguments cause it won't help you too win a debate, or appear knowledgeable

honestly I don't know why we're arguing over this when we're both in agreement that wolverine wins, it's moot point. relax, lay of the steroids and go for a walk.
it's only further making you look like an ass.

Originally posted by jinzin
honestly I don't know why we're arguing over this when we're both in agreement that wolverine wins, it's moot point. relax

No it's not a moot point. If you understood that explaining why Wolverine beats Batman is more important than simply claiming Wolverine beats Batman, then perhaps you'd finally have a clue what's going on and know that none of these reasons are "moot" points. And why do I get the feeling you wouldn't even know how to use the word moot, if batman hadn't used it in the last episode of JLU? True we may both be in favor of wolverine winning, but I am accepting of how amazing batman is AND then proving why Wolverine will still win. You on the other hand attempted to debunk several of my posts...probably without realizing that Iwas in favor of wolverine.

Originally posted by jinzin
honestly
"so pressing 100lbs is NOT unrealistic at all. "

I never said it was, but 1000 pounds is a different story.
The fact is if you're lifting weights regardless of power, whatnot you build muscle it's as simple as that. Batman is muscular but in the comic he's not as big as he is in the show. He needs to be lean in order to be as acrobatic and such as he is,,,,,,you still haven't answered my request.....where has abtman ever benched 1000 pounds.
Another thing don't use a cartoon to support your arguments cause it won't help you too win a debate, or appear knowledgeable

Obviously, 100lbs was a typo,I meant to write 1000lbs. Think of it like this...how remarkable does someone have to be in the REAL world to bench press 600lbs nowadays? The answer is, not that remarkable. It's quite an accomplishment, but it's not unbelievable or unheard of, especially when some hundred people can do it.

Now you're going to tell me that in the comic book world, someone as amazing as batman cannot bench press 1000lbs? This is a fictional world you know...

On a side note...are you saying batman does not lift weights? Is that what you're trying to tell me? LoL. Are break dancers agile? I can't tell you how much lifting weights helped me with breakdancing...you might want to look into gymnasts as well, should they not lift any weights cuz it might ruin their agility? AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainamerica.htm
"Strength Level: Captain America represents the pinnacle of human physical perfection. While not superhuman, he is as strong as a human being can be. He can lift (press) a maximum of 800 pounds with supreme effort."

Now don't be a little ***** and say "that's 800lbs, not 1000lbs". These numbers are not absolute and it comes down to this, both batman and cap can bench press as much as the strongest NORMAL man on the planet, normal meaning not superhuman. Now when their comics were first written, that was around 700lbs...Do tell me, how is it not possible now that normal human beings in the real world press 1000lbs? And since you're an idiot I'll re-mention that Ryan Kenelly has put up over 1000lbs.

I am no superhero, it's just I post in favor of Wolverine, then you knock my post to prove that wolverine is better... Read up several posts and you'll see what I mean.

Again you're confusing the real world with comics... "You need to be lean..." Now let me ask you this? In the real world...if someone lean can bench press 500lbs...is it so ridiculous to think that Batman can press 1000lbs while being lean? Is it? Also, do these rules of physics and common sense apply to the comic book world all the time? The answer is obviously no...they only apply as much as they need to in order to keep the story from being completely unbelievable.

Originally posted by jinzin
that's fine and nice that you are vein enough to go posting half naked pics of yourself on the net, but I'm slightly larger than you, and unless you want me to further humiliate you, I'm not going to post a pic.

I dare you to post a picture of your more than likely fat ass. To further humiliate me with your picture? From what nonsense you have been spewing, you clearly dont have any idea how to build a nice body, so I'm sure your picture will humiliate nothing. Also you're bigger than me? Why is that, because you weigh more than 153lbs? Even someone as misinformed and generally moronic as you should know that weighing more doesn't mean you are bigger...

And telling me to lay off the steroids is the most misinformed statement you could ever give. You might as well have used a racial slur. People like you further the idea that all huge bodybuilders are on steroids when in fact several all natural bodybuilders have made it to the 260lb mark off season, capable of lifting weights such as 500+ on bench press, 600+ on deadlift, and 500 on squat.
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Now for other people I'm willing to have a civil discussion with.

Daredevil was instructed by stick aand as someone else posted, even stick has tremendous respect for wolverine...The hand has on more than one occasion mentioned Logan's name with respect.

Anyone thinkin Davedevil and Elektra can hand wolverine his ass....could you explain ur reasoning? I too think it's awesome that daredevil's agility mimics that of spider-man....But without Spidey's strength, how is Daredevil going to defeat an opponent who has more stamina, fights more ruthlessly, and better trained as far as martial arts? (Wolverine)

Originally posted by jinzin
"WtF is going to understand that?"

an I'm the idiot? hat didn't even make sense. You're pretty angry over something so trivial, got some pent up frustration inside ya huh?

"so pressing 100lbs is NOT unrealistic at all. "

I never said it was, but 1000 pounds is a different story.

"I am the PRIME defender of Wolverine"

you're making youself out to sound like some sort of super hero. lol

"that's me @ 153lbs on the right, lets see a picture of ur fool ass before you start talking anymore about weights. "

that's fine and nice that you are vein enough to go posting half naked pics of yourself on the net, but I'm slightly larger than you, and unless you want me to further humiliate you, I'm not going to post a pic.

"He may bench press approximately 725 pounds and is the near-equal or equal of the world's best athlete in any Olympic event."

this is from your link. Why would you give me a link that only further proves my point? bwhahahaha,,,,,and I'm the idiot...riiiiiiight.

honestly I don't know why we're arguing over this when we're both in agreement that wolverine wins, it's moot point. relax, lay of the steroids and go for a walk.
it's only further making you look like an ass.

"Sure post a picture of your fatass, you're better off lying and posting someone else."

such an assumption but i will if i must.
you said it yourself cap can press 800 at his best maybe a little more but not much more. Comic book world or not, batman ain't putting up 1000 pds. just give me ONE.....just ONE, example where he does, and I'll digress. Until then shut the hell up. you have no right to call me an idiot because I have enough logic to say that batman isn't benching 1000 pounds. he's a normal guy and has to work out vigorously to even maintain his peakest of peak status. The entirety of his training style isn't about lifting weights so stop acting like it is.

The steroid thing was a joke connecting you're muscular physique to
your obvious anger issues, get over it.

..." Now let me ask you this? In the real world...if someone lean can bench press 500lbs...is it so ridiculous to think that Batman can press 1000lbs while being lean? Is it?"

yes. it is.
While i agree that comic book land is rather illogical at times, this is just ridiculous. Batman doesn't take steroids or muscle enhancers so he's not putting up 1,000 pounds, it's that simple. really why would you continue to argue such a logical fallacy.
1 example,,,that's all i ask.

Batmans physique is well beyond any person in the real world, even if they ARE taking steroids. I must admit, your posts are getting better...they're starting to make sense. So I'll level with you.

I cannot find one example in the comic books where batman sits down and bench presses 1000lbs. I cannot. I also cannot find one where batman presses 300lbs...But I know he can do that.

So instead, i pose this question... How many times has batman performed feats of upperbody strength that even a man who could bench 1000lbs could not do?

Hell, I'll even go for a low blow. Have you heard of the mother who lifted a car in order to get her child to safety? The wonders that adrenaline can do in real people who are not enhanced....and yet you're unwilling to accept that batman could press 1000lbs.

Anyway, comics are stories...stories are not about concrete numbers, so I'll try to relate this another way. If loeb wrote a comic where batman and superman were in the gym and batman was like "i'm going for a new max, spot me clark"? And we see batman pressing 1050lbs on the bench and then clark spotting with his pinky...

Now a dialogue ensues... "Wow batman, you're stronger than I would have guessed" and Bruce replies

"Civilian powerlifters put up this much, you think I'd slack?"

What would you think then? The core point is that, that is a very possible situation.

Originally posted by JWangSDC
Batmans physique is well beyond any person in the real world, even if they ARE taking steroids. I must admit, your posts are getting better...they're starting to make sense. So I'll level with you.

I cannot find one example in the comic books where batman sits down and bench presses 1000lbs. I cannot. I also cannot find one where batman presses 300lbs...But I know he can do that.

So instead, i pose this question... How many times has batman performed feats of upperbody strength that even a man who could bench 1000lbs could not do?

Hell, I'll even go for a low blow. Have you heard of the mother who lifted a car in order to get her child to safety? The wonders that adrenaline can do in real people who are not enhanced....and yet you're unwilling to accept that batman could press 1000lbs.

Having adrenaline and doing an otherwise impossible feat is one thing, but doing it consistently is another. Batman is going to use his wit, his fighting capabilities, and his gadgetry when he goes out to apprehend a criminal or take down an opponent, so weightlighting capabilities might be irrelevent.

Whenever I think about weightligting things beyond 1/4 ton, I always think of that picture of the guy (real) who carried so much weight, his legs gave out from the strain and broke his legs awkwardly. Give me my 10 pound bowling ball.

lol.

batman ain't putting up 1000 pounds like it or love it.