Storm vs. Dr. Doom

"so what! they're opinions, theres nothin wrong with thinking"

No there isn't. Try doing some.

"then I went on websites and bought comics because you people make him look interesting- therefore now I know about him"

No, you don't. You know what websites say and what happened in a few comics. You have nothing compared to people like me who have read comics for many many years.

"besides, with the way people talk about storm it seems like galacticstorm, demi and I are the only ones who know anything about storm"

I know everything that those and you have posted. What's your point? You ONLY know about Storm and the X-Men. That's it. You are a fanboy, a biased fanboy.

-AC

AC AC once again you have demonstrated your lack of knowledge over one of the characters you are supposed to be debating about. Therefore i really dont value your contributions and im sure some of the others feel the same way. Storms primary power is to manipulate energy patterns. She predominantly uses this ability to manipulate those energy patterns which dictate the weather while on earth anyway. Someone said earlier that she could harness power from the stars. Sorry to prove you wrong for like the twentieth time alpha but this is true. However she needs to be in space to do so where she can tap into and manipulate the ambient energy patterns to be found there. This did indeed happen in the Brood saga. It was shorlt after the xmen were implanted with brood eggs. Storm used this ability to exorcise the egg from her body she burned herself out in the process but was revived by the leader of the acanti. So yes storm does very much have the ability to tap into cosmic energy but in limited amounts. Before you dsmiss or try to discredit someones point alpha i suggest you read up on the subject just so you know what the hell you're waffling about

does doom have protection from hypothermia- or hyperthermia?? storm can do both ot those with ease. she can also freeze his whole body suit included in seconds. she can deflect attacks as I have already posted, and she has numerous attacks of her own. storm is able to win this fight, you just won't face the facts to mnow we are right.

Storm can tap into the power cosmic?
Wow.
Is there anything the X-Men can't do?

"Sorry to prove you wrong for like the twentieth time alpha but this is true. However she needs to be in space to do so where she can tap into and manipulate the ambient energy patterns to be found there. This did indeed happen in the Brood saga. "

Did you read my post? I said that she did it in that saga. Read my posts. I also stated something in that same line. Read it. Storm does not realistically control or manipulate COSMIC ENERGY.

Explain why she's only ever done it when Chris Claremont is writing for her. I'm not wrong to make the connection that she's also his favourite X-Man. It's true and it's in my favour. He pins powers on the X-Men that they simply do not have.

"So yes storm does very much have the ability to tap into cosmic energy but in limited amounts. Before you dsmiss or try to discredit someones point alpha i suggest you read up on the subject just so you know what the hell you're waffling about"

No she doesn't. Explain to me why she's only ever done it twice in four decades. The X-Men haven't been in space with Storm twice in four decades. The reason she's only done it twice is obvious and I've already shown why.

"However she needs to be in space to do so where she can tap into and manipulate the ambient energy patterns to be found there. "

Not only is her cosmic ability (the one she's had twice in dubious writing conditions) called into question but she can't use it on Earth, why? Coz she's called Storm, the woman who controls the weather. So it's not even relevant. Tired of whooping you.

"just so you know what the hell you're waffling about"

You just posted a load of irrelevant BS that only proved my point.

"does doom have protection from hypothermia- or hyperthermia?? storm can do both ot those with ease. she can also freeze his whole body suit included in seconds she can deflect attacks as I have already posted, and she has numerous attacks of her own. storm is able to win this fight, you just won't face the facts to mnow we are right."

A) Yes he does. B) No she can't. C) So? She can deflect limited attacks. D) Numerous inaffective attacks. E) No she won't.

I just sliced and diced both of your posts.

Want another helping of Alpha Whoop Juice? Post more. I dare you.

-AC

yeah she has only done it onse and that was in space- she won't be able to do it from earth, but it won't storm is strong even without it.

Shhh.

Who said she wasn't strong? I never.

Storm isn't strong enough to beat Doom. Learn. You are going against a veteran of many years with "I read sites and bought some comics". Laughable.

-AC

I have to hand it to you Alpha Centauri, you hand out beat-downs like a cosmically empowered pimp...

AC youre too arrogant but that is far from understandable with the many gaps in your knowledge which myself demi and stormfront hav made quie apparent. At the end of the day chris claremont had a part in making these characters who they are today. If he says storm can do that then she can he is the comic book writer you are the doom fan boy. Storm manipulates energy patterns that is her power. She works with whats ambient in the environment therefore it wasnt a biased claremont tackin on new powers those hav always been her powers. Not only is the brood saga a good example but look how her powers manifested in the whole trion affair. AC youre outta your league please quit you were behind when i registered

look i don't care if you write comics! storm CAN beat doom! if I have comic and read then quite a few times and go on web sites to find out more info why is that laughable you are just running out of things to say. and get this through ur head no matter how bad you think our posts are we will nover stop posting. storm can freeze doom in a block of ice! how will he get out of that? storm is a lot more powerful than anybody but myself, galactic, and demi are willing to give her credit. she is no pushover and she can find out a way to beat doom. If he can't see how will he hit her. she can either create for or hide. she can create floods in seconds and I will give you the number of the comic if you want it. when he's wet he will freeze faster. also storm can manipulate her wind to go faster than mach 3, this will probably pin him to the ground giving her the oppurtunity for an attack. if he tries to hit her then she can avoid it. she can fly faster than mach three so this shouldn't be that hard. either way storm has a lot of options and if she gets angry then she will become even more powerful. storm definitley has a chance of winning

and AC did you get the fact that we are posting at the same time?? we aren't the same person!!

Kind of weird that you'd feel the need to point that out...

cos AC'S constantly remarking about it even tho its quite blatantly obvious

And answering a reply to the other. Strange.

lol mwahahahahahahha

Maybe this can help...from Marvel's own website:

and this...

Anyone with a set of working eyes can see that Doom is CLEARLY superior to Storm in every sense.

Oh, as for Storm's wonderful new cosmic power, take a gander at this and tell me if you see it written anywhere:

Straight from the source! You Stormy fanboys can put that in your pipes and smoke em.

"he says storm can do that then she can he is the comic book writer you are the doom fan boy."

Sure GalacticStorm. Perhaps you would like to say more on being a fanboy GalacticSTORM? Or maybe STORMfront would. Well? Stormfront admitted he was a biased fanboy, but you stand up for him coz he's siding with you. Which is hypocritical to the maximum.

"Storm manipulates energy patterns that is her power. She works with whats ambient in the environment therefore it wasnt a biased claremont tackin on new powers those hav always been her powers. "

Storm manipulates the weather, hence the name Storm. She works with the weather. Nothing more. How can you said Claremont wasn't biased when NONE of the other X-Men writers in history have gave her that ability except him? He said she's his favourite X-Man. He gives powers to her that she doesn't have nor was meant to have, purely coz he loves the X-Men. Which is abuse of power.

"Not only is the brood saga a good example but look how her powers manifested in the whole trion affair. AC youre outta your league please quit you were behind when i registered"

This is irrelevant again isn't it? You just made a post of nothing but pointless babbling. Nothing you've said in your last few posts relates to Storm Vs Doom. It's all been aimed at me. Well, aimed at me or the debate, doesn't change the fact that you and your "debates" are being handled like an ugly newborn baby and then slapped like the mother who birthed him.

Stop trying to touch the untouchable.

"if I have comic and read then quite a few times and go on web sites to find out more info why is that laughable you are just running out of things to say."

So it's a comic? You're judging the person Storm's fighting by a comic and the internet? Hahahahaha.

"storm can freeze doom in a block of ice! how will he get out of that? storm is a lot more powerful than anybody but myself, galactic, and demi are willing to give her credit."

Hahahaha. She can't freeze him in a block of ice, are you not reading the debate? She can't do it. Ironic that you say only you and the two other Storm supporters are giving her credit. She's strong, powerful, yeah? And what? She's still not powerful or strong enough to beat Doom. This isn't about how powerful you THINK she CAN be or how powerful you want her to be, it's about how powerful she is. Which isn't enough to beat Doom.

"she can create floods in seconds and I will give you the number of the comic if you want it. when he's wet he will freeze faster. also storm can manipulate her wind to go faster than mach 3, this will probably pin him to the ground giving her the oppurtunity for an attack. if he tries to hit her she can avoid it."

Why, when she tries to hit him, do you seem to think that every hit will be direct? Yet when he attacks 'she'll avoid it'. Your opinion isn't valid, you are biased. You admitted it. Biased means one-sided. You are voting for Storm coz you like her.

What you don't realise is that everytime you say "She can do this", you're just solidifying (that means setting or proving) that it's not gonna work. Pin him down with wind?? Get him wet?? Yeah, I can see how someone who knows Doom from a couple of comics and the net would think so. None of this is possible, none of it. Regardless of whether you want it to be.

"storm definitley has a chance of winning"

Nah. She doesn't. Oh...that ONE speculatory, might happen but probably won't, chance.

-AC

Doom would backhand her so bad this might as well be the Ike vs. Tina thread...

"as for Storm's wonderful new cosmic power, take a gander at this and tell me if you see it written anywhere"

Yes just in the brood saga shortly after the dark phoenix. Take a looksie and stand corrected. Ive read many bios on storm and yes she can do those things what is your point? The bios marvel has on their own site are constantly changing over the years. At the end of the day she can manipulate energy patterns those that dictate the earths weather included. Check out xtreme xmen and you can see her manipulation and perception of ambient energy patterns which she did when on that alien ship after being captured and also when in that appartment when on the hunt for that killer who was framing gambit. Good try. Come again

"lol mwahahahahahahha"

Yeah exactly.

I'd like to add that I was just told by GalacticStorm (the same one who told me above to 'read the comics' and stuff) to "read the bios".

I think I've said it all.

Oh and one more thing, are Storm fans scared of me? Because people are voting for her but not speaking in here. There have been loads of people voting for Doom, speaking for Doom.

Out of the 8 who voted for Storm, I've seen 3 speakers. If you've sunk to the level of registering new names purely to gain votes, you're sad.

"Yes just in the brood saga shortly after the dark phoenix. Take a looksie and stand corrected. Ive read many bios on storm and yes she can do those things what is your point? The bios marvel has on their own site are constantly changing over the years. At the end of the day she can manipulate energy patterns those that dictate the earths weather included. Check out xtreme xmen and you can see her manipulation and perception of ambient energy patterns which she did when on that alien ship after being captured and also when in that appartment when on the hunt for that killer who was framing gambit. Good try. Come again"

What does this prove? Absolutely nothing at all. Nothing.

Why do you have the nerve to tell me to read comics when you're going by bios? Stormfront says the same. Where is he? He's nowhere to be seen at this point, hmm. Swanky-Tuna was onto something.

The fact is, A) She can't realistically manipulate cosmic energy and to say so is ridiculous. No X-Men writer bar Claremont believes she can, none. B) It's not gonna happen so therefore it's not relevant.

You're falling fast.

-AC