Storm vs. Dr. Doom · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Tormentor_2004 Restricted

cuz they got nothing to say i guess. Ive been searching throught this thread. And i see Swanky-Tuna, Stormfront, me, Quan, Onslaught2005, Dark Menace, etc...

pr1983 Hey Yo!

swanky tuna is pro doom from his posts...

and you've named four or five people, not 24...

having nothing to say is no excuse when you've said nothing at all...

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by stormfront13
AC if its been established then why were people still sayin storm could win- i'm not alone in this

Because people are just reading the first post and replying.

Originally posted by Tormentor_2004
cuz they got nothing to say i guess. Ive been searching throught this thread. And i see Swanky-Tuna, Stormfront, me, Quan, Onslaught2005, Dark Menace, etc...

Dude, my comic was so pro-Doom.

Alpha Centauri Restricted

Storm fans have nothing to say because there is nothing to say.

She can't win, won't win. We know it. You're outnumbered and outclassed.

-AC

manjaro No-No Place-licky McNicky

its not about being a fan for im a fan of neither its just the fun of d3ebating and seeing how intersting you can keep it

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by stormfront13
just a bit of a warning i wouldn't say that his suit can be short circuited cause AC will go crazy on ur A$$

I noticed. I read the thread. I don't care. Hell, who cares about her using electricity. He still has to breathe! 😆

Carrying around four hours worth of air just gives her that much more volume to work with. Doom loses when she KNOCKS him the F*CK out after four minutes straight of no air in his lungs.

Alpha Centauri Restricted

As I've said many times before, if it were that easy, there wouldn't be 38 pages of how Storm can SCRAPE the win.

She can't though.

-AC

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
As I've said many times before, if it were that easy, there wouldn't be 38 pages of how Storm can SCRAPE the win.
She can't though.
-AC

Yeah, but you didn't spend 38 pages arguing with me. She can, indeed. Her power is psionic in nature, but she can use it through Jean Grey's psionic shield. There's no way she can't use her power through Doom's shield.

Alpha Centauri Restricted

...and it doesn't appear you could argue for 38 pages either. Here's why:

Originally posted by Khellendros
Carrying around four hours worth of air just gives her that much more volume to work with. Doom loses when she KNOCKS him the F*CK out after four minutes straight of no air in his lungs.

You believe that? Then you don't know Doom or Storm.

She's all of a sudden gained this Magneto/Polaris EMP power out of thin air to give her a shot and she still won't beat Doom.

It's resorted to "pin him to the ground with wind, do this, do that" scriptures. We don't need them, coz we are smart enough to know that in the comics world, Ororo "Not even best on the team, Storm" Munroe isn't going to beat Victor "Got more gadgets and wizardry than a lesbian brothel, conquered the world 3 times on my own" Von Doom.

You can try and pull everything out of your ass to say she will, but she won't. She just won't.

She's JUST Storm.

-AC

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You believe that? Then you don't know Doom or Storm.
She's all of a sudden gained this Magneto/Polaris EMP power out of thin air to give her a shot and she still won't beat Doom.
It's resorted to "pin him to the ground with wind, do this, do that" scriptures. We don't need them, coz we are smart enough to know that in the comics world, Ororo "Not even best on the team, Storm" Munroe isn't going to beat Victor "Got more gadgets and wizardry than a lesbian brothel, conquered the world 3 times on my own" Von Doom.
You can try and pull everything out of your ass to say she will, but she won't. She just won't.
She's JUST Storm.
-AC

Yeah, I do believe that. Man's gotta breathe. I never brought up the EMP power, but she DOES control electricitylightning), while those other two control magnetism. Each one naturally comes by half of what it takes to create an ElectroMagnetic Pulse . Still, though, I'm not arguing her electrical abilities. Too many unknowns (how strong his circuitry is, how insulated his vital systems are, etc.) I'm arguing her mastery over air. It's not a matter of IF she can get through his shield, it's a matter of how soon she can knock his ass out. I say four minutes tops... but with NO air to breathe? Maybe only one or two...

She is the master of the elements, it's a part of her very being. He's JUST a crazy nerd in a tin can.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Got more gadgets and wizardry than a lesbian brothel, conquered the world 3 times on my own"

Dude, why does your brothel analogy keep getting filthier and filthier?

Originally posted by Khellendros
Yeah, I do believe that. Man's gotta breathe. I never brought up the EMP power, but she DOES control electricitylightning), while those other two control magnetism. Each one naturally comes by half of what it takes to create an [B]ElectroMagnetic Pulse[/B]

Oh man, AC was right in his disgust. I just looked up some stuff on EMP and there's absolutely no connection between weather control and EMPs.

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Oh man, AC was right in his disgust. I just looked up some stuff on EMP and there's absolutely no connection between weather control and EMPs.

Ugh. Fine. First, let me remind you, the strategy I'm advocating is NOT attacking him with an EMP. But here, I've done some looking up myself. This is a description of an EMP produced by a nuclear explosion, which results in the strongest EMPs we know of.

"...the primary photon collides with an electron and some of the energy of the photon is transferred to the electron. Another (secondary) photon, with less energy, then moves off in a new direction at an angle to the direction of motion of the primary photon. Consequently, Compton interaction results in a change of direction (or scattering) of the photon and degradation in its energy. The electron which, after colliding with the primary photon, recoils in such a manner as to conserve energy and momentum is called a Compton (recoil) electron"(2)

These Compton-recoil electrons travel outward at a faster rate than the remaining heavier, positively charged ions. This separation of charges produces a strong electric field. The lower-energy electrons produced by collisions with the Compton electrons are attracted to the positive ions. These ions produce a conduction current. This current is directly related to the strength of the Compton effect. Also, this conduction current flows in a direction opposite to the electrical field produced by the Compton effect. Because of this, the conduction current limits the electrical field and stops it from increasing.(3-5)

There. Photons and electrons. Light and electricity. What does that sound like? Hmm... lemme think... what does Storm use that sounds like that... OH. I know! LIGHTNING! She can produce an EMP, the only question with that attack strategy is whether or not Doom would have shielded his machinery from its effects. That's why I'm not arguing EMP's, I'm arguing the suffocation angle.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

You clipped off the part about those being gamma protons.

By the goddess! I summon the winds of gamma radiation!

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
You clipped off the part about those being gamma protons.
By the goddess! I summon the winds of gamma radiation!

Uhhh, do you mean PHOTONS? I clipped of the gamma parts so that people didn't see that and start thinking "OMG HULK" and ignore everything else. Photons are photons, no matter what produces them. It's just that in a nuke blast, Gamma radiation is produced, and it produces photons. You can also get photons from anything that produces light.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Yeah, photons. And that's also the effect of a nuke. The only way she'd qualify as being able to make an EMP is the all-electrical-current-has-a-small-EMP-field thing but one that size wouldn't be worth crap.

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Yeah, photons. And that's also the effect of a nuke. The only way she'd qualify as being able to make an EMP is the all-electrical-current-has-a-small-EMP-field thing but one that size wouldn't be worth crap.

One WHAT size? She controls lightning. Whatever. I'm done arguing EMPs. My point is that she could suffocate him. And she would, in a fight.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

I guess ultimately my point is it'll take longer to whip up something effective than it would for Doom to shoot her in the face.

pr1983 Hey Yo!

Dude, why does your brothel analogy keep getting filthier and filthier?

By the goddess! I summon the winds of gamma radiation!

😆

Yeah, photons. And that's also the effect of a nuke. The only way she'd qualify as being able to make an EMP is the all-electrical-current-has-a-small-EMP-field thing but one that size wouldn't be worth crap.

I guess ultimately my point is it'll take longer to whip up something effective than it would for Doom to shoot her in the face.

✅

demigawd Board Scientist

The arguments keep circling:

Pro-Storm people: Storm can affect Doom through his forcefield. Storm can short Doom out (which she's done before), Storm can overload Doom's shields, Storm can suffocate Doom, Storm can blind Doom

Pro-Doom people: None of that matters! He's DOOM! She's Storm! Bah!

Doom puts up a fight, but Storm comes away victorious. Doom walks away in pity saying, "I'm useless without prep..."

Victor Von Doom Latverian Diplomat

To be fair, it's actually my lesbian sleepover analogy.

Slightly disguised but nonetheless, copyright.