Storm vs. Dr. Doom

First off Demi,

Stormfront just said that Storm could beat Wonder Woman and Jean with Phoenix Force. Knows nothing besides X-Men and Storm, extremely biased. It's distressing.

"So now that we've established that Storm can penetrate forcefields, the fact that Doom will or will not have his forcefield up becomes irrevelant. She could affect him anyway."

We've established that she's penetrated some forcefields. Not Dooms. Prove me wrong.

As for the blasts theory, Magneto (as you well know) cannot affect Doom. With electricity, magnetism or otherwise. He can control electricity better than Storm so why is Storm going to be able to do better? Answer: She's not.

People keep saying "random encounter" as if Doom leaves his suit in Castle Latveria and walks around in sweat pants. Doom doesn't do "random" encounters. This is what you need to realise. If you ACTUALLY come face to face with the real Dr. Doom it's because he wants to fight you. If you happen to luckily catch the best of him once, it aint happening again.

A win against Doom is only a disadvantage for round two. Lightning never strikes the same place twice? Irrelevant. Doom never loses to the same person more than once. Add to the fact that he hardly loses (actually him) and there you go.

I don't think Storm is winning this, at all.

Stormfront, you weren't TRYING to say it so don't make out that you were. You couldn't say what Demi said for the simple reason he knows stuff and you don't. You are felching Storm because she's your best, you've admitted to that aswell. You are of no consequence in this debate. You also admitted that Doom would win. What? Are you gonna change opinion now that Demi has come to help you? Of course you are.

-AC

Oh man...never did I think I would ever be treated to a finer display of fanboyism than what I have read in this thread. Kudos! 🙄

Bottom line is anyone with a modicum of knowledge of the Marvel Universe knows that there is a world of difference between Storm and Dr. Doom. What I've read here further reinforces my belief that X-fans are the most ignorant of all comic book fans. Storm is not in the same league as Doom.

Now we have demigawd talking about the relative merits of Surfer's blast, Thor's blast, an EM Pulse, and an Electricity blast somehow equalling Storms attack. I guess all of that must be more powerful than a DIRECT assault from Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, huh? Doom's armour is his greatest asset and it can more than withstand whatever Storm can dish out.

She is sorely outclassed, regardless of what her fanboys think.

man what is this stormfront13 vs Alpha Centauri

LMFAO these two are going at it.

No we're not.

Stormfront is nothing to me, let's get that straight.

-AC

Lord S thonos was just using a fraction of his power.

Dooms armor has been crushed by hulk . But i do agree storm will be beate not cuz of armor , doom is a lot more than that.

yeah and thats you. I said that storm w/ the phoenix force could beat jean w/ the phoenix force! yes I'm biased but not extremly!

"yeah and thats you. I said that storm w/ the phoenix force could beat jean w/ the phoenix force! yes I'm biased but not extremly!"

Just sit out of this.

Although:

One thing I want to voice.

Why is everyone concentrating on what has happened TO Doom? When did we start ruling out his accomplishments?

I'd love to see Storm outsmart the Beyonder and Galactus. Beat Surfer. Beat the F4. Capture and run her own country. Steal the Avengers Mansion.

Stuff like that.

She wouldn't though, coz she's not as powerful or as smart as Doom.

2+2?

-AC

omf do you ever realive that you can actually be wrong AC!!

Yeah.

Do I believe you can prove me wrong? Here? No.

Why? Coz you lack the knowledge and sense. Be off with thee.

Now, we can get back on topic.

The day Storm proves as successful on her own as Doom is, as powerful or as smart, I'll consider her worthy to enter his castle. Until then, she's a nobody.

-AC

you are being really stupid and annoying. I have as m uch knowlege as you, I may not know all that much about doom but I am smart enough to know that storm is outmatched but she will put up a good fihgt

"you are being really stupid and annoying. I have as m uch knowlege as you".

No you don't.

Anyway, topic.

-AC

Originally posted by stormfront13
why do I need help?? you said the same thing that I've been trying to say!

Except you've been saying it wrong. AC is a bit like me in that he wants examples. You haven't been the best at providing them. You can't argue by....wait, I'm not gonna argue with you on this. Just work with me here, lol.l

Stormfront just said that Storm could beat Wonder Woman and Jean with Phoenix Force. Knows nothing besides X-Men and Storm, extremely biased. It's distressing.

I've heard more distressing things. Especially on this board. CountQuan, anybody?

As for the blasts theory, Magneto (as you well know) cannot affect Doom. With electricity, magnetism or otherwise. He can control electricity better than Storm so why is Storm going to be able to do better? Answer: She's not.

Well, Magneto HAS affected Doom before. Then, Doom got up, activated his whatever he did, and Magneto wasn't able to affect it the same way again. It wasn't an extended battle, so we don't know what other tricks Magneto might have had up his sleeve, or counter-tricks Doom might have had. It ended (in their most recent battle) with Magneto smacking Doom away, then Doom de-magnetizing his armor and hitting Magneto. It's a COMPLETELY different scenario. In this case, we're not talking about Storm penetrating Doom's forcefield (like Surfer or Thanos) or controlling his armor (like Magneto). We're talking about Storm bypassing the forcefield altogether, which makes Doom's armor like any other electronic device, and more than able to be fried, like she did against Iron Man, since its protection wouldn't come into play.

People keep saying "random encounter" as if Doom leaves his suit in Castle Latveria and walks around in sweat pants. Doom doesn't do "random" encounters. This is what you need to realise. If you ACTUALLY come face to face with the real Dr. Doom it's because he wants to fight you. If you happen to luckily catch the best of him once, it aint happening again.

Well, the "new" battleboard rules state neutral ground, no-prep. Thems the rules.

A win against Doom is only a disadvantage for round two. Lightning never strikes the same place twice? Irrelevant. Doom never loses to the same person more than once. Add to the fact that he hardly loses (actually him) and there you go.

ok, I can buy that. They have a random encounter, Storm beats Doom, Doom goes back, does some muckety muck, owns up Storm next time. I can live with that. I think Doom is great at planning and can think of a way to neutralize anybody, certainly Storm. If anything, my view of him pays greater homage because I don't think much of his personal power or combat capabilities (I put him below Iron Man), but I know that he can create a means of toppling damn near anybody. Including Storm. Isn't being technically outpowered but overcoming the odds a greater feat?

Stormfront, you weren't TRYING to say it so don't make out that you were. You couldn't say what Demi said for the simple reason he knows stuff and you don't. You are felching Storm because she's your best, you've admitted to that aswell. You are of no consequence in this debate. You also admitted that Doom would win. What? Are you gonna change opinion now that Demi has come to help you? Of course you are.

You're so mean, lol. You're like a board bully. He's probably, like 14 years old.

some people need to get off the internet, and go read a book.

"It is better to stay quiet and appear stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

um... demi i am 14 lol and ur point about my age is??

"I've heard more distressing things. Especially on this board. CountQuan, anybody?"

Exactly. You should see some of the threads this guy creates. Oh wait...

"Well, Magneto HAS affected Doom before. Then, Doom got up, activated his whatever he did, and Magneto wasn't able to affect it the same way again."

Exactly. Magneto affect Doom, only until Doom got back up. Completely rendered Magneto's power useless on him, and took it back. If this is how he treats Magneto, what will Storm do?

"It wasn't an extended battle, so we don't know what other tricks Magneto might have had up his sleeve, or counter-tricks Doom might have had. It ended (in their most recent battle) with Magneto smacking Doom away, then Doom de-magnetizing his armor and hitting Magneto. It's a COMPLETELY different scenario."

If he couldn't affect it again like you said in previous quote, why would it have mattered? Doom could clearly affect Magneto, Magneto could no affect Doom. This isn't about those two, BUT, if Magneto couldn't top Doom. Why could Storm? Someone significantly less powerful? She couldn't.

"We're talking about Storm bypassing the forcefield altogether, which makes Doom's armor like any other electronic device, and more than able to be fried, like she did against Iron Man, since its protection wouldn't come into play."

Yep. Coz Doom will stand there and not attack while she does all this. He'd kill her before she had the chance. We all know this.

"Well, the "new" battleboard rules state neutral ground, no-prep. Thems the rules."

Bit of a stupid rule that isn't it. Either way, Doom doesn't stroll around does he? So while we're being realistic, Storm would have to meet him in Latveria. Where he probably has a million and one things waiting for her.

"They have a random encounter, Storm beats Doom, Doom goes back, does some muckety muck, owns up Storm next time. I can live with that."

Why are you making it as easy as "Random encounter, Storm beats Doom." When is this EVER gonna happen? It's not. Ever. Is it? Hence why he always uses Doom bots. There isn't such a thing as a random Doom encounter and to say there is, just silly. Anyone that has actually gone to fight him has failed, more often than not. Storm would be no exception.

This whole debate is based on the chance that Storm MIGHT be able to create something inside his shield before he's decided to wipe her out. Which isn't likely, to me.

"You're so mean, lol. You're like a board bully. He's probably, like 14 years old."

So? Old enough to type to me so he's old enough to take it back.

-AC

i can take ur critiscism i never said that I couldn't

Stromfront13,

RULE #1 about Debating:
One should know both sides of a debate, before entering into one.

This will save you a lot of embarassment and you'll earn some respect.

"i can take ur critiscism i never said that I couldn't"

Yeah. "Take".

You can take my criticism in the way Rocky Balboa takes punches.

-AC

in what way was it bad- you said something about me that was untrue like that I didn't know anything about comics and in fact I know as much as you.

No you don't.

Anyway, TOPIC.

-AC