Originally posted by Soljer
I thought it was skills IN magic.....Regardless, I HATE that ****ing movie.
Piece of shit.
he mumbled half of his lines the whole time, anyway. i suppose there's no real way to know.
i found that movie funny on the big screen. i quickly tired of it by the next day when all i heard were quotes
Originally posted by Soljer
Retroactively, Jean has always been an omega mutant. You're born into your 'class.'However, prior to 2001, the word 'Omega' had absolutely no meaning. Hence, as far as anyone knew, Jean was just a powerful mutant before she was designated omega.
Anyways, back on topic;
Ligers grow much larger than lions and even larger than the largest tigers. On average, ligers stand at about 10-12 ft when standing on their hind legs. The largest non-obese Liger, known as Hercules, is said to weigh over 544kg (1200 lb), [7] over twice the size of a male lion.
You people still went on with this? I've told you what you need to show me to prove your end, something from Marvel Comics themselves that states that Nimrod identification of her as an Omega was not referring to her mutant class. Instead of wasting your time repeating the same things I have discounted before, why not try to find that info and convince me of your side of this debate? Truthfully, I think the reason is that you enjoy fighting.
Originally posted by Starhawk
I've told you what you need to show me to prove your end, something from Marvel Comics themselves that states that Nimrod identification of her as an Omega was not referring to her mutant class.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9538/11yd0.jpg
Well logically speaking and context wise he couldn't have. Because using that same system of classification he managed to identify humans/enhanced beings as well.
The Omega/Alpha/Beta system is unique to mutants.
Also note his classification terms: Class-One Contact and Class Omega Contact. This is a whole different classification system to the mutant classification system.(The fact that the term omega mutant was only coined in 2001 further solidifies X's post)
So there's actually no on panel statement of Rachel being classified as an omega level mutant.
That has nothing to do with it. You have used faulty examples again and again. My IQ has never been set, Her status as an Omega has. I have countered every argument You've brought up. Show me either something form Marvel that says shes not, or somewhere Nimrod labeled a non-mutant as an Class Omega contact or labeled another mutant who has been stated as NOT being an Omega Class as a Class Omega Contact.
If not then I won't believe You.
Originally posted by llagrok
But you see, I can just make a statement and ask you to prove me wrong. Because that's basically what the Sentinel and you are doing.
No it isn't, Nimrod identified her and her ALONE as an Class Omega Contact. And the fact that she posses the same powers as Jean Grey and was also a host for the Phoenix Force also lead allot of support.
So, Show me either something form Marvel that says shes not, or somewhere Nimrod labeled a non-mutant as an Class Omega contact or labeled another mutant who has been stated as NOT being an Omega Class as a Class Omega Contact then I won't believe You.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Then show me where Nimrod called someone who wasn't a mutant as an "Class Omega Contact".
See this man here in the bottom right hand corner. This is the page before Nimrod scans the Hellfire Club. His name is Friedrich von Roehm, he is not a mutant. He's an enhanced human. Enhanced by Selene who altered his bloodline.
This is why Nimrod says "Multiple class one contacts- Mutants and Enhanced power beings.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9538/11yd0.jpg
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/pov/showquestion.asp?faq=5&fldAuto=21
And if I'm reading this next scan right.
"Class Omega subjects are on par with this unit". According to this system of classification you are class omega when you have the same power level as Nimrod. Meaning you're an Omega threat to Nimrod.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
See this man here in the bottom right hand corner. This is the page before Nimrod scans the Hellfire Club. His name is Friedrich von Roehm, he is not a mutant. He's an enhanced human. Enhanced by Selene who altered his bloodline.This is why Nimrod says "Multiple class one contacts- Mutants and Enhanced power beings.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9538/11yd0.jpg
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/pov/showquestion.asp?faq=5&fldAuto=21
And if I'm reading this next scan right.
"Class Omega subjects are on par with this unit". According to this system of classification you are class omega when you have the same power level as Nimrod. Meaning you're an Omega threat to Nimrod.
No your twisting it to mean what you want it to mean, All it means is that she is at least at his level of power. And the fact that they are class one and she is class omega even further proves the point.
Since your not going to prove to me given the parameters I've asked your just wasting your time. I really don't know why you care so much about me not agreeing with your opinion.
Originally posted by Starhawk
No your twisting it to mean what you want it to mean, All it means is that she is at least at his level of power. And the fact that they are class one and she is class omega even further proves the point.Since your not going to prove to me given the parameters I've asked your just wasting your time. I really don't know why you care so much about me not agreeing with your opinion.
I'm not, and I don't. You asked this:
Originally posted by Starhawk
Then show me where Nimrod called someone who wasn't a mutant as an "Class Omega Contact".
And I delivered. Friedrich von Roehm. Which makes Nimrods classification both human and mutant.
The second scan was an interesting piece of information IMO. Anyway I can't change your opinion but I can say this, there's no shame in making a mistake.
So I'll leave it as it is. 🙂
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I'm not, and I don't. You asked this:And I delivered. Friedrich von Roehm. Which makes Nimrods classification both human and mutant.
The second scan was an interesting piece of information IMO. Anyway I can't change your opinion but I can say this, there's no shame in making a mistake.
So I'll leave it as it is. 🙂
He didn't identify him as a Class Omega Contact, which is what I asked.
Originally posted by Starhawk
He didn't identify him as a Class Omega Contact, which is what I asked.
I was going to leave it as it is but I think I know what you're not seeing.
The Omega/Alpha/Beta Level Mutant system is a way of Classifying Mutants.
The fact that Nimrod was able to classify a human(Friedrich von Roehm) shows that it was a completely different system to the Mutant Classification System and that it's based on a completely different criteria. Which however you like to interpret it is explained in this scan.
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8827/uxm208page08sf6.jpg
They are classified based on how much of a threat they are to Nimrod.
There's absolutely no way a human can be classified in a mutant classification system.
