Originally posted by Starhawk
Soljer, you have A LOT of growing up to do.
I am going to settle this once and for all. There is a series put out by marvel called "Official Guide to the Marvel Universe, it lists mutant classes. I ordered the back issue with Rachel in it. So we can clear this up once and for all.It's really surprising and more then alittle flattering that you guys think that what I believe is so important.
I can post the same thing over and over again as well. What does it solve? You can't force someone to share your opinons.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
OmegaPlus:Any mutant that has accessed 70% or more of his/her total Omega potential and possessed a working knowledge of that power and potential.
This puts OmegaPlus mutants above normal Omegas because the total power they can bring to bear is greater than that of a normal Omega. Their ability to use said energy is also much higher than a normal Omega level mutant.
Here's a link to the source. www.Marvel.com
It's not an opinion. It's fact. The only CONFIRMED omega mutants are:
Jean Grey
Iceman (Bobby Drake)
Kid Omega (Quentin Quire)
Mister M (Absolom Mercator)
Franklin Richards
Vulcan (Gabriel Summers)
Elixir (Josh Foley)
You can speculate all day long, but it doesn't change the fact that these are the only CONFIRMED omega mutants.
Originally posted by Soljer
It's not an opinion. It's fact. The only CONFIRMED omega mutants are:Jean Grey
Iceman (Bobby Drake)
Kid Omega (Quentin Quire)
Mister M (Absolom Mercator)
Franklin Richards
Vulcan (Gabriel Summers)
Elixir (Josh Foley)You can speculate all day long, but it doesn't change the fact that these are the only CONFIRMED omega mutants.
Its not speculation, its right out of a comic. I am curious, why do you care so much?
Originally posted by Starhawk
But not as an Omega, Look I am going to settle this once and for all. There is a series put out by marvel called "Official Guide to the Marvel Universe, it lists mutant classes. I ordered the back issue with Rachel in it. So we can clear this up once and for all.It's really surprising and more then alittle flattering that you guys think that what I believe is so important.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Okay then why is such a big deal made about Omegas? As I agreed, Starhawk is never specifically called an Omega, but he is still an extremely powerful mutant. He would waste some of those "Omegas" easily. So what are the criteria for being an Omega?And Soljer, you have some growing up to do.
I am going to settle this once and for all. There is a series put out by marvel called "Official Guide to the Marvel Universe, it lists mutant classes. I ordered the back issue with Rachel in it. So we can clear this up once and for all.It's really surprising and more then alittle flattering that you guys think that what I believe is so important.
As I said about the Rachel question.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Soljer, you have ALLOT of growing up to do.
I am going to settle this once and for all. There is a series put out by marvel called "Official Guide to the Marvel Universe, it lists mutant classes. I ordered the back issue with Rachel in it. So we can clear this up once and for all.It's really surprising and more then alittle flattering that you guys think that what I believe is so important.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Soljer is reposting the same thing over and over again, you can't blame me, and I am not him, eclipso was.In a debate like this it just ends up with the same things being said over and over again anyways. Look over the thread, we have gone over the same issues at least 5 times now.
Yup.
Five times.
And you've been proven wrong seven or eight times. Just like Richards' was.
rachel is a confirmed "class omega contact." that is it. she is NOT a confirmed "omega level mutant." and, since the two have never been proven to have any sort of relationship, the ONLY conclusion that can be drawn is that they are different things because they are different words. there is no evidence that says they're the same thing.
ours is an assumption, yes. but it is based off all relevant information out there.
yours is also an assumption, based off a bias or an idea that is not established in canon or in the basic steps of logical thinking.
is the atlantic ocean the same as the pacific ocean because of the word ocean? is light blue the same as dark blue because of the word blue? is russian orthodox the same as roman orthodox because of the word orthodox?
it is called deductive reasoning. it is called logic. it is called common sense. it is everything law school is supposed to teach you.
Originally posted by Disappear
rachel is a confirmed "class omega contact." that is it. she is NOT a confirmed "omega level mutant." and, since the two have never been proven to have any sort of relationship, the ONLY conclusion that can be drawn is that they are different things because they are different words. there is no evidence that says they're the same thing.ours is an assumption, yes. but it is based off all relevant information out there.
yours is also an assumption, based off a bias or an idea that is not established in canon or in the basic steps of logical thinking.
is the atlantic ocean the same as the pacific ocean because of the word ocean? is light blue the same as dark blue because of the word blue? is russian orthodox the same as roman orthodox because of the word orthodox?
it is called deductive reasoning. it is called logic. it is called common sense. it is everything law school is supposed to teach you.
And you spout the same stuff you've said before. I have said what I will accpet as proof and that is all I will accept. King M, I will ask tommorow, my comic store owner ordered it for me.
we know it's not the 198 handbook, mung. he knows it too.
you asking for "proof" that a term without definition is not the same as a term with definition is the same a blind person asking for proof that red is not blue.
the proof as far as can be determined by the human mind is out there. "class omega contact" is not the same series of words as "omega level mutant." YOU are the one taking the word "omega" out of the two contexts and saying that they must mean the same, WITHOUT providing any evidence to justify your claim.
Do you have no patience at all? I said I will have an answer when i get that issue.
All your doing is saying the same thing over and over again using new phrases, we have been over all this. You've given your points time and time again as I have done with my own. We have a way to find an answer. Now unless all this is is just a smokescreen to start a fight let it go and we will have an answer and then we will know who is right and who is not. Hate to try and bring rational thought into this, but there we have it.
