Eragon

Me too. I only agree with myself about half the time, so it makes a nice change...

I agree you are wierd.

I agree too! 😄

Originally posted by NoahCloud
Ignoring the fact that the "fifteen year old genius" of this book STOLE basically every interesting element in his story from other works (I.E the entire plot from star wars, the world from tolkien, and the dragon raising/hiding/psychic connection bit from Jane Yolen's dragon trilogy) the book was terrible.

While reading I could not help but think to myself, "this writer seems kind of imature" and then I realized that wait...he is in fact fifteen, and he DOES write like a fifteen year old with one difference; hundreds of randomly placed, uncalled for SAT words.

His characters are one dimensional, Saphira grows to quickly for a bond to be created between her and Eragon, his discriptions are amaturish, and overall this book is a monument to the degeneration of our American culture.

By reading this book...and then saying something as ridiculous as "it was the best book I ever read" or even, "hey this book was pretty good" you are slapping not only every great fantasy writer the world has seen in the face, but every writer in general. By feeding into this new phenomena that is, "young writers are good writers", and my personal favorite, "you can't be too hard on him because he is just a kid" you are directly feeding the beast that will suffocate and KILL any ounce of creativity your children and their children will have.

Christopher Paolini has done only ONE original thing with his book...he has taken prose and found a new way to promote it. Age.

Please do not buy this book, do not support this book, and if you are so inclined to...disagree with me. However, not only will I reply, but I will show no mercy to the ignorant.

I'd say the book's good, personally. Especially considering the fact that the guy was fifteen years old when he wrote it. And if you think about it, there is no actual plot that hasn't been written before. so technically, the only thing writers can do is have inspirations for their stories and try to blend it in with their own ideas. After all, George Lucas didn't come up with the whole concept of Star Wars out of thin air. He used inspirations from different myths and Science Fiction stories. Even J.R.R Tolkien had his inspirations for Lord of the Rings. so it's quite normal that Christopher Paolini had his inspirations from other stories.

True I personally thought Eragon did take from other books but made it it's own into a great book that was original in many ways

just finished reading the eldest, loved it, cant wait for the third one.

Yaaaaaaaaaay Me neither

I can agree somewhat with what Noah had said. The immaturity of the way that the book was written was evident in my mind, but I was lead to that conclusion in some other way.

Im a big roleplayer in the roleplaying section of kmc, and often times we have what is known as "God-Moding" in which some roleplayer makes his character overly strong and can do anything. they also try to make their character extremely cool. This is what I thought during Eragon. Paolini just wanted to make a cool character. It seemed that HE in fact wanted to be Eragon. What with the wicked nassty sword fighter who trained for a week and no one could beat him, and the magic allowing him to kill someonewith one word. Its a bit overpowered.

However my opinion of te book changed as I continued through it. And I felt completely different after reading it's sequel - ELDEST. The story matured as Paolini matured. Roran's journey and side-quest was enough to make me fall in love with the book. The emotion and twists (cough Oromis cough) were great and were really well written.

After reading ELDEST, my fave character went from Murtagh to Roran very quickly.

I know this is random and no one knows me, but my goal is to spread the word.......there will be a Dragonlance movie in 2007! (don't bother flaming me, because will most likely never see it)

I have just been in Waterstones, and had a look at Eragon. (I have already read it [several times] and got a copy of my own, but I was just looking for any new books to read) Has anyone else seen? There is a little thingy on the cover of Eragon about some competition (I didn't look too closely at what it was about) But it also said Empire would be out September THIS YEAR!!!! YAY!!! Also, it had the same front cover as Eldest (the red dragon) But I think that was probably some sort of mistake. I reckon the cover is going to be black, with Galbatorix's dragon on it. (Why can't I remember any of their names???)

Dunno i can't remember them either thats sooooo exciting about Empire coming out woooooooo

So the third book's name is going to be empire hmm

That's what everyone thinks. I heard it from my friend.

Originally posted by NoahCloud
Ignoring the fact that the "fifteen year old genius" of this book STOLE basically every interesting element in his story from other works (I.E the entire plot from star wars, the world from tolkien, and the dragon raising/hiding/psychic connection bit from Jane Yolen's dragon trilogy) the book was terrible.

Yeah, but if you think about it, how many books do you know that haven't got just a little tiny little tiny resemblance to something else? I can't see anything to do with Star Wars in that! Star Wars is sci-fi, Eragon is fantasy. Yes, there is a difference.

Originally posted by NoahCloud
While reading I could not help but think to myself, "this writer seems kind of imature" and then I realized that wait...he is in fact fifteen, and he DOES write like a fifteen year old with one difference; hundreds of randomly placed, uncalled for SAT words.

So what? I'm 15, and I want to write a book. I really admire him for writing a book good enough to get published.

Originally posted by NoahCloud
His characters are one dimensional, Saphira grows to quickly for a bond to be created between her and Eragon, his discriptions are amaturish, and overall this book is a monument to the degeneration of our American culture.

By reading this book...and then saying something as ridiculous as "it was the best book I ever read" or even, "hey this book was pretty good"

IT IS!

Originally posted by NoahCloud
you are slapping not only every great fantasy writer the world has seen in the face, but every writer in general. By feeding into this new phenomena that is, "young writers are good writers", and my personal favorite, "you can't be too hard on him because he is just a kid"

Seriously, do you actually know anyone who would say that?

Originally posted by NoahCloud
you are directly feeding the beast that will suffocate and KILL any ounce of creativity your children and their children will have.

Christopher Paolini has done only ONE original thing with his book...he has taken prose and found a new way to promote it. Age.

Please do not buy this book, do not support this book, and if you are so inclined to...disagree with me. However, not only will I reply, but I will show no mercy to the ignorant.

Oh, be quiet. It IS a good book, you just don't appreciate good literatuer. Or rather, you think you do, but really, just...well...no.

There. Do you like my lovely ripping apart that I had great fun doing?

Isn't there going to be a movie based on this book, right?

Originally posted by Saphira
Yeah, but if you think about it, how many books do you know that haven't got just a little tiny little tiny resemblance to something else?

There's a difference from being influenced by an idea, and blatently copying storylines.

I can't see anything to do with Star Wars in that! Star Wars is sci-fi, Eragon is fantasy. Yes, there is a difference.

Non sequitur. A difference in genre does not somehow discredit the fact that Paolini is a plaugurist.

So what? I'm 15, and I want to write a book. I really admire him for writing a book good enough to get published.

Eh? So, if a book is published; it must be good? By this logic, every book published is good.

IT IS!

I'd beg to differ. Paolini's writing style is neither compelling, nor particularly good. It's littered with literary embellishment that makes most of the book read like a long obituary.

Seriously, do you actually know anyone who would say that?

Yes, I do.

Oh, be quiet. It IS a good book, you just don't appreciate good literatuer. Or rather, you think you do, but really, just...well...no. [/B]

Whether or not the book is good is a matter of opinion, but I still maintain that it's an awful book.

Originally posted by IceDragon
[B]Okay, you go out and write a novel, right now, and see how good it actually is. It was a really good book. and all this post shows is how stupid you truly are. 😠

So, if I am not a mechanic; I cannot critique a mechanic's work? Or if I am not a car salesman, I cannot criticise their work? Nonsense, you don't have to be a writer to come to an informed conclusion on whether or not a book is paltry or a bad read.

And also, with nearly every idea for fantasy taken, theres not much left to do but take different things from different writers and roll it all up into your own, unique story. I mean come on, lets see you go out there and write a book that is every bit original. I bet you couldnt. no wait, i know you couldnt.

*Sigh*

There's a fundamental difference between being influenced by something, and outright copying it.

That's ridiculous! You should have to actually, Miss Fount-Of-All-Knowledge! You can't criticise something if you don't know anything about it! I'm willing to bet you haven't done a bit of research on this book! You just read it and thought, well, that's cr*p, I'm never reading that again. You should never EVER do that. If you do do that, which I pretty much know you did, you have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to criticise.

Basically, your posts mean nothing here.