Wolverine vs. Sasquatch

Originally posted by jinzin
you're not being very specific... demonstrate the inconsistancy you're talking about...

I'm not so much talking about wolverine as I am characters in general.

In one comic we'll see character A have a three page slugfest with a streetlevel fighter. A few years later we will see character A have a 5 page or multi issue slugfest with a class 100 character. In another comic we'll see character A once again having difficulties with a just above street level character.

For example, I did not see, but I heard that wolverine had a multi page fight with Gladiator. To hang with someone so strong, so fast and so resilient wolverine has to be a top tier character. Then we see him fighting much less impressive characters who he should completely dominate (but doesn't) if he had the ability to hang with the likes of glads. You get what I mean.

I find with many characters that have been around for a while that inconsistencies really affect how I view that character. Characters like Wolverine, Spiderman, Hulk and others seem to vary their abilities (or conscious use of their abilities) so inconsistently that I find it all pretty much ridiculous.

Does anyone see what I am getting at?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and?...chi attacks only get you so far.

based on what? 🤨

batman can supposedly rend holes through mountains using his chi.. hell he used that very technique to take down a class 100,

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He cannot move a multiple hundred titantium door with one punch or use a kick while being held with TK from X-Man. That's way over his powerset. Thus something like this is PIS.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Show me other times Wolverine is capable of a feat like this, as it happened just when he got an upgrade from Apoc. The proof of burden is on you.

I just did... but here's another, wolverine kicked down a robot during the lazarus project which was so dense that his claws could barely penetrate through it when he first went toe to toe with it...

another incident was when he ripped apart a steel/titanium alloy training model infront of kitty pride while practicing with his bare hands...

no those failsafes are physhic uses not telekinetic [/B][/QUOTE]
psionic is derectly related to telepathic and telekinetic ability... so yeah...

sure. that's why it's so important to try and look at the most consistent version of any character. you need to decide what are the 'highest feats' (out of character) and what the lowest feats (also out of character).

that's usually how i try and view any character in any battle.

Originally posted by capt it up
did u honestly just make fun of wolverine fans? please tell me u of all people the fabled hulk fan boy did not just make fun of wolverine fans

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Originally posted by KharmaDog
I'm not so much talking about wolverine as I am characters in general.

In one comic we'll see character A have a three page slugfest with a streetlevel fighter. A few years later we will see character A have a 5 page or multi issue slugfest with a class 100 character. In another comic we'll see character A once again having difficulties with a just above street level character.

For example, I did not see, but I heard that wolverine had a multi page fight with Gladiator. To hang with someone so strong, so fast and so resilient wolverine has to be a top tier character. Then we see him fighting much less impressive characters who he should completely dominate (but doesn't) if he had the ability to hang with the likes of glads. You get what I mean.

I find with many characters that have been around for a while that inconsistencies really affect how I view that character. Characters like Wolverine, Spiderman, Hulk and others seem to vary their abilities (or conscious use of their abilities) so inconsistently that I find it all pretty much ridiculous.

Does anyone see what I am getting at?

i see what you're getting at but the same inconsistancies really seem to apply to all characters short of cosmic levels... I mean hulk can take down the entire avengers and FF and spidey at once.. but then he gets knocked unconsious by iron fist?

the same principles apply to everybody in comics that has a decent amount of showings.. I however don't feel the need to discredit feats that a character does even though the character demonstrates said feat a handful of times...

spiderman's strength level is pretty well documented but that's no reason to disregard that he can transcend that level to pick up subway cars and knock over train carts with a flick....

superman get's punched every issue.. but that's no reason to discredit that he can vibrate through attacks.. you see what I'm getting at?

Originally posted by leonidas
sure. that's why it's so important to try and look at the most consistent version of any character. you need to decide what are the 'highest feats' (out of character) and what the lowest feats (also out of character).

that's usually how i try and view any character in any battle.

yeah me too.... but the rules of the forum also encourage everyone fights at their best which makes things more difficult to guage... cause again calling something PIS is a copout IMO

hey leo.. why have you never had a sig made up from pics of the series 300?

I just that would be cool as hell.

Give it to Sasquatch do to his powers are based on Magic not science. 😉

Originally posted by Grimm22
Give it to Sasquatch do to his powers are based on Magic not science. 😉

series 300 . . .? 🤨

i just started experimenting with sigs. i'm actually having a good time with them! digi has been my sort of sig coach, so he deserves some credit too!

problem with USING high showings is that unless they have been consistently shown, you're inviting someone to scream PIS. it is a tough thing to avoid though, you're right. 'specially given forum rules. 🙁

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Now people are gonna start saying Sasquatch will beat the sh!t out of Superman.

No, Superman is still stronger than Sasquatch and Superman is smarter and faster.

Oh and heat vision.

Burn hair, burn! 😆

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Now people are gonna start saying Sasquatch will beat the sh!t out of Superman.

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well, as tanaraq . . . 😖hifty:

Originally posted by leonidas
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well, as tanaraq . . . 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Grimm22
Give it to Sasquatch do to his powers are based on Magic not science. 😉

so are wendigo's... didn't help him
so are ghost rider's... didn't save him
so are ogun's.... didn't help him
so are kun lun's... didn't help him
so are wrecker's... barely helped him
so are ba-als... he's dead now...
so kierrok's... didn't help him either..

i'd call that some pretty bias reasoning...

Originally posted by jinzin
so are wendigo's... didn't help him
so are ghost rider's... didn't save him
so are ogun's.... didn't help him
so are kun lun's... didn't help him
so are wrecker's... barely helped him
so are ba-als... he's dead now...
so kierrok's... didn't help him either..

i'd call that some pretty bias reasoning...

Ghost Rider never was defeated by Wolverine.

We already know that in a fight to the death Ghost Rider would kill Wolverine.

Originally posted by leonidas
series 300 . . .? 🤨

i just started experimenting with sigs. i'm actually having a good time with them! digi has been my sort of sig coach, so he deserves some credit too!

problem with USING high showings is that unless they have been consistently shown, you're inviting someone to scream PIS. it is a tough thing to avoid though, you're right. 'specially given forum rules. 🙁

are you serious? you don't know about the darkhorse comic 5 part series called 300 about the spartans at thermopolea (sp?)..?

jawdrop

I thought if anyone knew about those comics it would be you...

Originally posted by jinzin
so are wendigo's... didn't help him
so are ghost rider's... didn't save him
so are ogun's.... didn't help him
so are kun lun's... didn't help him
so are wrecker's... barely helped him
so are ba-als... he's dead now...
so kierrok's... didn't help him either..

i'd call that some pretty bias reasoning...

Oh and Wrecker comepletly owns Wolverine when he's well written

ala "New Avengers"

Originally posted by Grimm22
Ghost Rider never was defeated by Wolverine.

We already know that in a fight to the death Ghost Rider would kill Wolverine.

it was a double KO... I didn't say wolverine beat him I said his majical powers didn't help, and they didn't...

Originally posted by jinzin
based on what? 🤨

batman can supposedly rend holes through mountains using his chi.. hell he used that very technique to take down a class 100,

yep you're definitely not listening.. TK didn't matter it had no effect on what wolverine was doing.. none whatsoever... failsafes ensure that...
so basically all he was doing was punching through a door...
the guy's floored class 100's with kicks and punches.. why not a titanium door? hell sabretooth did that in his classic days when he had nothing but bone in his body..

I just did... but here's another, wolverine kicked down a robot during the lazarus project which was so dense that his claws could barely penetrate through it when he first went toe to toe with it...

another incident was when he ripped apart a steel/titanium alloy training model infront of kitty pride while practicing with his bare hands...

no those failsafes are physhic uses not telekinetic

As he doesn't have the skill such as Ironfist has, so what would he hope to accomplish?

Proof he can do that? and who did he take down?

Yes it does, a powerful user like X-Man holding the door with TK woulkdn't stop Wolverine? Do you know who X-Man is? Show me where Sabertooth did this, as that's phsyically impossible since the old handbooks when he was bones was he had enhanced human strength not in the multiple ton range.

No you didn't, you state something without backing facts up. Was the robot standing was the robot moving? show the scans so we can actually see the circumstances.

PIS, he at tops has enhanced human strength not to that extreme level. Wait...no post the scan I want to see how big this is and how thick.

No duh as I said so how can those failsafes help him against TK, while they protect him against psionic attacks,

Originally posted by jinzin
but the rules of the forum also encourage everyone fights at their best which makes things more difficult to guage

That does make things difficult because, in essence, wouldn't that mean that Walter would always give in to Tanaraq?

To say that everyone wil fight at their maximum peotential sounds like a good idea, but it may also further complicate issues as to what is each characters maximum potential.

Or maybe I am overthinking this hole process 😕

Originally posted by Grimm22
Oh and Wrecker comepletly owns Wolverine when he's well written

ala "New Avengers"

throwing wolverine away is completely pwning someone?

wolverine came right back.. need I remind you how that fight ended?