LIGHT SIDED DOOKU??? spoilers...spoilers...spoilers...

Yes, I do. Again, do not blame me if you are too dense to understand.

All Jedi have different styles. It has nothing to do with what you said.

Put it this way, Qui-Gon was known as one of the best swordsman in the Order, afterall he was trained by Dooku.

Didn't Obi-Wan last longer? You're right he must be a novice.

Are you seriously suggesting that Obi-Wan was better than Qui-Gon? THAT is laughable.

The point is that Maul was better than both of them. One-on-one, he would kill either of them. His whole stategy was to seperate them and fight them one at a time. It just happen to be Qui-Gon he faced alone first.

He beat Obi-Wan one-on-one FAR quicker than he beat Qui-Gon.

As for your weird comment about styles... In a two-on-one fight, it will look extrmely dull unless the pair have a contrasting style, and the easiest contrast is furious versus careful. That was the REASONING behind the different styles.

The same applies to the AOTC fight.

Just because Obi-Wan lives longer doesn't make him any better than Qui-Gon. It just means that Qui-Gon let his defenses slip for a split second. Obi-Wan fought much better because of his master's death. You know he had a little of the dark-side in him at that point. The he calmed himself down and was able to focus more of the force on to the duel and he won.

the result is the same whoever was the better fighter, Obi wan beat Maul in the end.

Straight, informative, and to the point.

I like it finti.

I'm still bothered about that thing about QGJ, why an older man cannot be a good fighter. I agree with Ush that an older man can in fact be a good fighter. But my main problem is with Lucas' lines: he commented on the OT that all we saw of the Jedi were "old men and cripples" and an apprentice at work. According to calculation OB1 in ANH wasn't much older than QGJ in TPM. So does "lack of exercise" due to living in a desert explain this? There's nothing we know that OB1 did not keep in shape.

lack of exercise gets everybody rusty

Yes, but the question is: did he have a lack of excercise?

Obi-Wan's lesser abilities in ANH aren't caused by age, but by injuries. The same with Vader. By the way Qui-Gon was a great swordsman.

What injuries? I thought it was because he had neglected his skills.

He is a battered man by the time of ANH. If age was the reason, Dooku would be weak.

Do you really think he will come out of all this uninjured? In AOTC, he takes a saber directly though the thigh, which would go right through the Femur. And a shoulder injury. If you think he goes through the Clone Wars without a scar, you are crazy.

Neglected his skills? That's a good one.

Ah! It's really both that effect. The age and the injuries.

Dooku is much older than Obi-Wan in ANH, and that doesn't stop him from easily handling 2 of the Jedi's most highly skilled swordsman.

I don't buy the age factor. Not to mention Yoda is over 800 years old.

Well Yoda doesnt't have anything to do with this. But anyway Dooku is in a very good shape, if you consider he's about 80. Then maybe Obi-Wan isn't in that good shape. Ofcource age matters. So do the injuries.

So now it's that Obi-Wan wasn't in good shape. Anything else? Maybe he had skin cancer from the twin suns.

Direct quote from ANH

"Your powers are weak, old man... You should not have come back."

Obi-Wan HAD neglected his skills.

If Obi-Wan's leg injury in AOTC was really a long-term problem, he would already be impaired by the time of Episode III, which I very much doubt. We have no reason to think he is suffering from injury by ANH.

And GL would have SAID that was the reason, if it was.

Dooku basicly says that to him in AOTC also. If you think the AOTC injuries are all he gets you are dum$%^ than you sound.

Vader is just taunting Obi-Wan.

Why the hell does that make me a dumb anything? What you are saying is purely speculation with no basis whatsoever.

While Vader was indeed taunting Obi-Wan, that is not the point. You don't just put lines like that in the movie for no reason.

And as George Lucas has made clear that Obi-Wan was past his prime- making NO mention of injuries whatsoever- I am pretty confident saying that injury has nothing to do with it, while you have no such evidence at all.

Believe what you want, but you'll see in the end that his age and lack of practice aren't the reasons for his lack of mobility.