Scott Peterson gets the death penalty.

Started by lil bitchiness5 pages
Originally posted by Reborn Again
Some 411 on your statement would be nice, Lil Bitchiness. 'Cause I don't believe it!

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108&scid=7

# The investigation costs for death-sentence cases were about 3 times greater than for non-death cases.
# The trial costs for death cases were about 16 times greater than for non-death cases ($508,000 for death case; $32,000 for non-death case).
# The appeal costs for death cases were 21 times greater.
# The costs of carrying out (i.e. incarceration and/or execution) a death sentence were about half the costs of carrying out a non-death sentence in a comparable case.
# Trials involving a death sentence averaged 34 days, including jury selection; non-death trials averaged about 9 days.

Florida spends millions extra per year on death penalty
Florida would save $51 million each year by punishing all first-degree murderers with life in prison without parole,
according to estimates by the Palm Beach Post. Based on the 44 executions Florida has carried out since 1976, that amounts to an approximate cost of $24 million for each execution. This finding takes into account the relatively few inmates who are actually executed, as well as the time and effort expended on capital defendants who are tried but convicted of a lesser murder charge, and those whose deathe sentences are overturned on appeal. (Palm Beach Post, January 4, 2000)

Florida spent average of $3.2 million per execution from 1973 to 1988
During that time period, Florida spent an estimated $57 million on the death penalty to achieve 18 executions. (Miami Herald, July 10, 1988)

Total cost of Indiana's death penalty is 38% greater than the total cost of life without parole sentences
A study by Indiana's Criminal Law Study Commission found this to be true, assuming that 20% of death sentences are overturned and resentenced to life. (Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission, January 10, 2002)

Do the math.

Amendment against homosexual marriage, death penalties... Tex is right - America is going back to the 1800s.

- Death Penalty is WRONG -

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108&scid=7

# The investigation costs for death-sentence cases were about 3 times greater than for non-death cases.
# The trial costs for death cases were about 16 times greater than for non-death cases (8,000 for death case; ,000 for non-death case).
# The appeal costs for death cases were 21 times greater.
# The costs of carrying out (i.e. incarceration and/or execution) a death sentence were about half the costs of carrying out a non-death sentence in a comparable case.
# Trials involving a death sentence averaged 34 days, including jury selection; non-death trials averaged about 9 days.

[b] Florida spends millions extra per year on death penalty
Florida would save million each year by punishing all first-degree murderers with life in prison without parole,
according to estimates by the Palm Beach Post. Based on the 44 executions Florida has carried out since 1976, that amounts to an approximate cost of million for each execution. This finding takes into account the relatively few inmates who are actually executed, as well as the time and effort expended on capital defendants who are tried but convicted of a lesser murder charge, and those whose deathe sentences are overturned on appeal. (Palm Beach Post, January 4, 2000)

Florida spent average of .2 million per execution from 1973 to 1988
During that time period, Florida spent an estimated million on the death penalty to achieve 18 executions. (Miami Herald, July 10, 1988)

Total cost of Indiana's death penalty is 38% greater than the total cost of life without parole sentences
A study by Indiana's Criminal Law Study Commission found this to be true, assuming that 20% of death sentences are overturned and resentenced to life. (Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission, January 10, 2002)

Do the math. [/B]


Excellent...
Not to mention they are being kept alive to die, and electrocution is probablly the worst way to die. Some people don't die the first time, so they have to fry them again, and again, up to three time. Very barbaric.
Read "Live from Death Row"

Ugh! I knew this was going to turn into a redundant death penalty issue.

Sticking to the case of Peterson his death sentence carries a mandatory appeal, and his attorneys may file additional appeals, meaning the case could drag on for years. His lawyers will appeal his case. Unfortunally his victim the 8 month pregnant wife didn't get an appeal for her life. She was kill brutally and dump into the San Francisco River. Nice one! Peterson gets to plead for his life but his wife didn't? yeah, very interesting.

well what did you expect?
I'm no hypocrite, I don't change my position because of one case!

When have I call you a hypocrite? And I'm not asking you to change your mind. Post your thoughts.

I never accused you of doing that, and If i gave that intention I am sorry.
But it seems like people are wanting to gain approval for the death penalty by listing his crimes and how horrible they are.
But if you believe, like I do, that death is the ultamite end and there is no afterlife or anything, than life in prision is the worst possible punishment, sitting there having nothing else to do but remember the terrible things you did. all the details and such, is the worst form of tortue.

Originally posted by WindDancer
Ugh! I knew this was going to turn into a redundant death penalty issue.

Sticking to the case of Peterson his death sentence carries a mandatory appeal, and his attorneys may file additional appeals, meaning the case could drag on for years. His lawyers will appeal his case. Unfortunally his victim the 8 month pregnant wife didn't get an appeal for her life. She was kill brutally and dump into the San Francisco River. Nice one! Peterson gets to plead for his life but his wife didn't? yeah, very interesting.

I was answering Evys point of budget - not a widly known fact.

Tptmanno1 - my point is pretty much the same.

I cant say i heard tons about this case, but i you look at it from a war perspectie - once you get into that soldier uniform, its like it automatially gives you the ''kill-free'' card, dont you think? If its life for a life, than every soldier who killed someone should suffer such fate - its not like that for obvious reasons, its just an observation.

No biggie no offense taken.

I understand your reasons about putting a person behind bars forever. But you gotta see the other side of the coin on this one. If a person is torture and lock up for the rest of his life is also a very risky factor. All that torture could make a person much more dangerous and more desperate to get out. He could endanger the life of the guards or any other inmates that make contact with him. A Desperate man seek desperate measures. Even worse a man with a killer instinc. Whereas with the death penalty the person dies instanly and is the end line for the dangerous murderer.

In this case Peterson is very capable of becoming a dangerous murderer in prison. The guy killed his pregnant wife......Can you imagine what would he do to a stranger in prison? Plus knowing the other convicts will cut him or rape him the minute they get a chance. Either way this guy is going to face death behind bars.

Originally posted by Tptmanno1
I never accused you of doing that, and If i gave that intention I am sorry.
But it seems like people are wanting to gain approval for the death penalty by listing his crimes and how horrible they are.
But if you believe, like I do, that death is the ultamite end and there is no afterlife or anything, than life in prision is the worst possible punishment, sitting there having nothing else to do but remember the terrible things you did. all the details and such, is the worst form of tortue.
Matter of opinion. If once you die it's completely over, I'd rather spend the rest of my life in jail then die right away. If there was an afterlife, than perhaps I would choose death. Still doubtful though.

i have always been against the death penalty no matter what case because how are we better than the common murderer if the only punishment we can come up with is to do the same thing they are being punished for,its just pointless in my opion.

yes scott peterson may be guilty but no one deserves the death penalty, i think its barbaric,like the first time they used the gas chamber it took close to twenty minutes for the guy to finally die,what gives us the right to put someone through that,there is just no cause to punish killing with more killing

Originally posted by Linkalicious
I believe laws laid down by the society that individual chooses to live in are what gives "us" the right to decide what happens to him.

Had he lived in a state where they did not practice the death penalty....then he wouldn't be sentenced in that way. He was found guilty of commiting the crimes he was charged with by a jury of his peers.

He is also a citizen of the United States, and a resident of the state of California. By choosing this country and state to live in, he is subject to the laws and punishments that go with crimes against the society he lives in...

Punishment fits the crime....unless you can explain how it doesn't.

well now that you bring up the 'by living here he understands that there are penalties for such crimes' factor.. I can see where you're coming from 🙂

YAY!!!!! I heard a while ago BUT may he fry 😄 but technically his lungs will liquify and heart will stop as he chokes to death with no muscle control and barely conciousness 😄 but of course thanks to glorious California justice...... it will take nearly 20 years 🙁

They don't use the electric chair anymore, it's now an injection.

If they still use the chair, they shouldn't, that's barbaric.

Capital Punishment merely de-sensitizes death. It is not a real deterrent, and it actually encourages criminals to eliminate witnesses so that they are less likely to be caught. Add in the budgetary concerns, and the fact that wrongly convicted men and women can be executed, and I see no rational reason to keep the death penalty around.

It is possible that Scott Peterson's conviction will be overturned on appeal due to insufficient evidence; The prosecutors supplied no cause of death, eyewitness, or material evidence that links Scott Peterson to the crime.

Death is way too harsh.

Originally posted by The Inkeeper
If there is no justification for murder how can you justify the death penalty, the sooner that is abolished the better.

How do I justify the death penalty?

I don't. There is no clear cut justification for taking another persons life.

But the punishment fits the crime, and since when has the United States government ever had to justify something?

and who cares about the economics of it all?

Killing Scott Peterson has NO effect on how you are taxed. Infact, killing all of the convicted criminals on death row would probably have little to no effect on what gets pulled from your paycheck every two weeks. If the money is the best support...that's not good enough because the money is always there.

And do those figures take into account things like creating new prisons because old ones are filled with people who are there for either life or 25+ years? Doubt it. Those facilities are multi million dollar prisons....but those figures aren't going to be found on that site.

Of course trials are going to cost ridiculously more amounts of money than life imprisonment.....people are going to spend every penny they have trying to avoid getting the death penalty. If you killed 6 people and they were going to give you "life in prison" that's GETTING OFF EASY.

Would you not spend every penny you earned to ensure you stayed alive?

Call me a pessimist but I doubt he'll actually die...such is the absimal slowness of the carrying out of death sentences

I do not believe that anyone should be convicted and sentenced to death based solely on circumnstantial evidence.