Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He isnt in the handbook but that could very well be a mistake going by who else is rated as enhanced. Either way wolverine and sabretooth are level 4's so thats not saying much is it lol
It is, since 4 means: "Regenerative". Sabretooth and Wolverine might be as durable as normal human (besides the skeleton), but they can heal.
Originally posted by wannabe
1) Should Spidey cling to something, it better be something strong enough to withstand a tornado or the clinging isn't worth a damn!!!
2) Should Spidey "go with the wind" and float around like Nataku suggested, what keeps Storm from blasting him with a lightning while she levitates him??? He can by no means dodge, because he has no ground to move himself from one point to the other!
3) Storm has proven herself being able to fly INSTANTLY...and she does that with conjured winds...i leave the implications for your sharp minds to unravel!
I don't think Storm will be hitting him with lightning bolts even if he's caught in the vortex of a tornado. I refer to this picture. For just one of many examples of course.
I've been thinking about this lightning, too. Seems to me that Spidey gets hit by Elektro. Elektro, being the one that is complete control of electricity, far, FAAR superior to Storm in this department. And I would definitely go so far as to say that Elektro's bolts are far more powerful than any lightning bolt Storm can summon. And even though they hurt, Spidey is always back up after he's hit by Elektro. Hm...Storm's lightning isn't seeming as useful as it once was...
And GS, Spidey has Superhuman durability. How the hell do you imagine he's lived through the things that he has? Of all people, I'm surprised that you're adhering so strongly to those piss-poor stats of handbooks and websites. As much as we all want to follow those, they've proved far too inconsistent.
Again, Storm probably does win most of the time. I just don't like the way that Spidey is portrayed here. And really, I don't like the way Storm is portrayed and what she has become to fans of her. And well, to comics as well.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It is, since 4 means: "Regenerative". Sabretooth and Wolverine might be as durable as normal human (besides the skeleton), but they can heal.
But they are able to regenerate from injuries that would kill spiderman hence the reason they are above him on the durability scale. Hulks skin blisters at 3000 degrees Colossus' can withstand 9000 degrees, in battles with wolverine hulks skin and flesh have been shredded to pieces however wolverines claws just caused sparks on colossus armour. However the reason hulk is rated beyond col in terms of durability is because of his insane healing factor which enables him to quickly recover from injuries and withstand ones which would kill colossus.
Spiderman would die from a spray of bullets. Wolverine would be hurt but would eventually heal. Hence the reason Marvel places him above spidey in terms of durability and hulk over those whose skin can withstand greater pressure before puncturing or blistering.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But they are able to regenerate from injuries that would kill spiderman hence the reason they are above him on the durability scale. Hulks skin blisters at 3000 degrees Colossus' can withstand 9000 degrees, in battles with wolverine hulks skin and flesh have been shredded to pieces however wolverines claws just caused sparks on colossus armour. However the reason hulk is rated beyond col in terms of durability is because of his insane healing factor which enables him to quickly recover from injuries and withstand ones which would kill colossus.Spiderman would die from a spray of bullets. Wolverine would be hurt but would eventually heal. Hence the reason Marvel places him above spidey in terms of durability and hulk over those whose skin can withstand greater pressure before puncturing or blistering.
....I never argued that Wolverine and Sabretooth should be on lower class...
...but you were saying that 3 isn't much...
...because Wolverine and Sabretooth were higher...
...and I said that the reason why they are higher is because thay can heal.
It is, since 4 means: "Regenerative". Sabretooth and Wolverine might be as durable as normal human (besides the skeleton), but they can heal.
So, what are you trying to prove here?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't think Storm will be hitting him with lightning bolts even if he's caught in the vortex of a tornado. I refer to this picture. For just one of many examples of course.I've been thinking about this lightning, too. Seems to me that Spidey gets hit by Elektro. Elektro, being the one that is complete control of electricity, far, FAAR superior to Storm in this department. And I would definitely go so far as to say that Elektro's bolts are far more powerful than any lightning bolt Storm can summon. And even though they hurt, Spidey is always back up after he's hit by Elektro. Hm...Storm's lightning isn't seeming as useful as it once was...
And GS, Spidey has Superhuman durability. How the hell do you imagine he's lived through the things that he has? Of all people, I'm surprised that you're adhering so strongly to those piss-poor stats of handbooks and websites. As much as we all want to follow those, they've proved far too inconsistent.
Again, Storm probably does win most of the time. I just don't like the way that Spidey is portrayed here. And really, I don't like the way Storm is portrayed and what she has become to fans of her. And well, to comics as well.
The difference between the comics and these debates are that the characters are in bloodlust mode. In the real world if electro wanted to kill spiderman then he could very easily do so. Spidermans a popular hero and is read by many do you really think the battles are going to be portrayed as they would really happen? Come on a little common sense please.
As for the lightning/electricity thing it travels at a third of the speed of light and is psionically controlled by Storm and can be redirected with a thought. Spiderman is not the Flash. He is not as fast as the speed of thought let alone a third of the speed of light. In blood lust mode if Storm wanted to hit him with lightning she would and could.
Spiderman does not have superhuman durability, he has enhanced durability which means he's slighty greater than normal durability but he doesnt have regenerative abilities like wolverine or deadpool. Spiderman by his own admission is far from bullet proof so thats all what needs to be said on the matter. Like it or lump it. All of Storms arsenal could hurt or kill him. People cant pick and choose when to use the handbooks. Ive seen you use handboook stats to support colossus over the Thing so dont try it. 😉
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
....I never argued that Wolverine and Sabretooth should be on lower class......but you were saying that 3 isn't much...
...because Wolverine and Sabretooth were higher...
...and I said that the reason why they are higher is because thay can heal.
So, what are you trying to prove here?
I was just letting you know why the likes of wolverine and sabretooth are more durable than spiderman and therefore making the point that his durability isnt sufficient for it to be a factor in this debate. A powerful lightning bolt from Storm in bloodlust mode and its all over for Spidey.
Storms lightning has decmated Sentinels and hurt Colossus. Yet some people want to make a case for Spideys ability to withstand it? 😕
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I was just letting you know why the likes of wolverine and sabretooth are more durable than spiderman and therefore making the point that his durability isnt sufficient for it to be a factor in this debate. A powerful lightning bolt from Storm in bloodlust mode and its all over for Spidey.Storms lightning has decmated Sentinels and hurt Colossus. Yet some people want to make a case for Spideys ability to withstand it? 😕
Not me.
Originally posted by MetalmanxNo problem for Spidey to dodge on that pic, because he has walls and a net which he can use for movement. BUT if he is floating, there is NOTHING from which he can propel himself...it's like trying to jump, tumble and bounce around without ground, walls or ceiling...he could rotate his arms and shake his legs etc. but he could NOT move in any desired direction to efficiently dodge ANYTHING!!!
I don't think Storm will be hitting him with lightning bolts even if he's caught in the vortex of a tornado. I refer to this picture. For just one of many examples of course.
Originally posted by MetalmanxOh please...Electro is a jerk! The only reason why Spidey wins against him all the time and Electro's powers do not affect him as much as they should is, because this character was created as a looser...and i think you're well aware of that!
I've been thinking about this lightning, too. Seems to me that Spidey gets hit by Elektro. Elektro, being the one that is complete control of electricity, far, FAAR superior to Storm in this department. And I would definitely go so far as to say that Elektro's bolts are far more powerful than any lightning bolt Storm can summon. And even though they hurt, Spidey is always back up after he's hit by Elektro. Hm...Storm's lightning isn't seeming as useful as it once was...
Originally posted by MetalmanxI agree with you on that. Given the feats he has shown by now, he has to have superhuman durability, THOUGH certainly not enough to help him through THIS fight.
And GS, Spidey has Superhuman durability. How the hell do you imagine he's lived through the things that he has? Of all people, I'm surprised that you're adhering so strongly to those piss-poor stats of handbooks and websites. As much as we all want to follow those, they've proved far too inconsistent.
Originally posted by MetalmanxThat would be what?(honest question) 🤨
...I just don't like the way that Spidey is portrayed here. And really, I don't like the way Storm is portrayed and what she has become to fans of her. And well, to comics as well.
Originally posted by GalacticStormIts within character though, I can pull it up.
As per forum rules all of the characters are in bloodlust mode unless otherwise stated by the thread maker. Storm in bloodlust mode has ripped out Marros heart and stabbed Callisto in the heart and regular readers will know that after her time in the arena Storm has had a hard time keeping control of her violent urges and actually finds pleasure in them. Storm would annihilate Spiderman.As for his durability he is not highly durable. The man isnt even bullet proof which is a couple of levels above his ranking and his regenerative abilities arent sufficient enough to place him on the same level as wolverine. Wolverine with his adamantium skeleton and healing factor is considered more durable than Spiderman. Storm would fry either one of them with no problem at all. Theres no point mentioning his durability unless its a a factor which really contributes to his chances in thi sfight. If he was against another street leveller then fair enough but all of Storms arsenal in bloodlust mode would take him out no probs.
He is durable, you make it seem like he's another human, which clearly isn't the case.
He can take a couple bullets and plow on.
Wolverine is superhuman, noone said spiderman was, but he is sure as hell tougher than storm.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Its within character though, I can pull it up.He is durable, you make it seem like he's another human, which clearly isn't the case.
He can take a couple bullets and plow on.
Wolverine is superhuman, noone said spiderman was, but he is sure as hell tougher than storm.
Yup.
As for the electro being better than storm he is he had his powers boosted rember so he's not exactly a looser anymore, never was realy, not sure if they still are boosted, but spidey was dodging electro all the way, and some1 said "if electro wanted to kill spider-man he could"...erm when dosent electro want to kill spider-man, As for storm yes spider-mans durabilty is far above average human, but he can't survive freezing cold, just think of it this way storm almost freezes him to death he can't move that fast because well, can you move fast when your freezing cold, so she can now hit him with lighting and the added moisture of snow on spidey would amplify the lighting probaly killing him. But of course if spidey was to jump at storm and hit her with 1 blow just after the match started well i think she would be dead, but 8/10 storm wins.
Oh 1 more thing i ould like to ask, if storm flies realy high so spidey can't get to her, how is she going to know where spider-man is he could just go to street level and she wouldnt see him and have to flie low to find him, can't hit what you can't see...Daredevil fans shut up. I think spidey might be able to take 1 quick lighting bolt though, he survived plenty of electros , but an onslaught would turn him into slightly over cooked spidey.
I wish spidey could win this fight easier dnt much like storm but im afraid he can't. 🙁
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Its within character though, I can pull it up.He is durable, you make it seem like he's another human, which clearly isn't the case.
He can take a couple bullets and plow on.
Wolverine is superhuman, noone said spiderman was, but he is sure as hell tougher than storm.
No you make it seem like he's superhuman. Im just highlighting the fact that his durability isnt suffcient for it to be an asset in this fight.
He is more durable than Storm. Whats your point? Is that gonna save him in this fight. 😕
Originally posted by SparkzOh 1 more thing i ould like to ask, if storm flies realy high so spidey can't get to her, how is she going to know where spider-man is he could just go to street level and she wouldnt see him and have to flie low to find him, can't hit what you can't see...Daredevil fans shut up. I think spidey might be able to take 1 quick lighting bolt though, he survived plenty of electros , but an onslaught would turn him into slightly over cooked spidey.
I wish spidey could win this fight easier dnt much like storm but im afraid he can't. 🙁
I answered this already. Storm can see the world in terms of energy patterns. Virtually all electromagnetic energy wielders can. Therefore Spiderman isnt hiding from her.
Originally posted by GalacticStormI never said it was superhuman not once. He can take alot of damage, when have you recalled peter breaking his bones?
No you make it seem like he's superhuman. Im just highlighting the fact that his durability isnt suffcient for it to be an asset in this fight.He is more durable than Storm. Whats your point? Is that gonna save him in this fight. 😕
Thats like me going:
Quicksilver isn't as fast as the flash, so he's slow.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I answered this already. Storm can see th eworld in terms of energy patterns. Virtually all electromagnetic energy wielders can. Therefore Spiderman isnt hiding from her.
Originally posted by GalacticStormFine and dandy but peter has been in a killing mood, its still against his character.
As for the in character comment. I mentioned her battles with Callisto, Marrow and her recent emotional state after her time in the Arena for a reason. Refer to that previous post.
And yes he loses most often than not.