Originally posted by Nataku8188told you, he's going to report you now...
You're an idiot. He's moving WITH THE WIND, NOT AGAINST IT!What part of that don't you get? If he wanted to stay on the ground he could turn his head the other way, ever try that? Oh wait, that's a bit too complicated for you.
Get the **** out of this thread if you're going to continue to add nothing of any worth.
I had given you several times to get off my annoying list, even when you downright insulted me several times, I've gotten along with people who have, look at jinzin now and cosmo kramer. Or creshosk.
You I have little respect for, as you are probably slow to understand, you are VERY hypocritical and a tattletale, that is little integrity in my book, you like to invalidate, put yourself in a situation so you look like the victim, but you are really trying to get the feeling of "getting someone", by telling and making snide comments.
That being said, you are childish, and hardly able to form a sentence, I'd try debating with you, but me and many others see its pointless, I know your balls are sweating to respond, but go ahead, I'm not going to pay attention to whatever you say anyway.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Yes, wind is powerful. Spider-man is roughly 20x stronger then the strongest human beings on earth. He's roughly 15x faster in reaction speeds, and can see things coming.He's dodged lightning, he's dodge bullets. You know why he can't dodge a lot of things, but can dodge other things? Plots. If they wrote him like they claim his abilities are, he'd be almost impossible to put down. Martial artists are strong enough to cave your skull in with one blow, Spider-man could easily shove his fist through your body and pull it out before you blinked.
When he senses wind coming, he can easily jump with the wind. If I'm smart enough to know that, I'm sure he is. If you've taken phsyics classes you'll know that the force of the wind will be greatly reduced by this. Considering the airflow is strong enough to generate lift on spidey, he can sit there and float around. There have been people who have survived being inside tornados. Not many, but there have been people. Spider-man is above and beyond anything you could comprehend as a person. He takes shots from guys with enough force to punch through steel, and he only bruises.
Tornados aren't going to kill spider-man. End of story.
You're thinking too much in terms of a naturally occurring hurricane/tornado and putting him up against that. For a start Storm is in bloodlust mode she isnt just going to levitate him and spin him around for laughs. She will sweep him and then slam him all over the landscape. Storms winds are psionically controlled and would be able to adapt to Spidermans movements with a thought. While shes slamming him around she could dramatically reduce the temperature to freeze spiderman within the vortex. Or she could decrease the humidity and dramatically increase the ambient temperature dehydrating him as he's caught up in the winds. Spidermans durability is rated as normal human so he certainly aint surviving storms onslaught.
Lightning travels at a third of the speed of light and Storm commands and can psionically redirect it mid blast. He might escape the odd blast or two but in bloodlust mode with good writing theres absolutely no reason why her bolts shouldnt make contact. One hit would be all thats required.
Storm also sees the world in terms of energy patterns on top of that as she's attuned to the planet she can sense the slightest stir in the air. Spiderman would not be hiding from her.
The wind would still take far too long for it to be effective, and we are forgetting that spiderman can adhere to walls, and shoot, he's dealt with this before.
Spiderman's durability is NOT normal human, not at all. His musculstature and skeleton structure are there to support his lifting weight, a human punched his palm and broke his hand, that coupled with his hyper metabolism, makes him very durable, about 10 healthy humans worth, he can take pain, he has been hit by people who fling cars all the time, ock's tentacles, venom, carnage, etc.
Just to clear that up. I am not saying he wins the majority though.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The wind would still take far too long for it to be effective, and we are forgetting that spiderman can adhere to walls, and shoot, he's dealt with this before.Spiderman's durability is NOT normal human, not at all. His musculstature and skeleton structure are there to support his lifting weight, a human punched his palm and broke his hand, that coupled with his hyper metabolism, makes him very durable, about 10 healthy humans worth, he can take pain, he has been hit by people who fling cars all the time, ock's tentacles, venom, carnage, etc.
Just to clear that up. I am not saying he wins the majority though.
The wind can be generated virtually instantaneously. How do you think Storm flies? It takes storm seconds to create hurricane winds. We've had this discussion before. You and a lot of people on here seem to follow the misconception that Storm takes a considerable amount of time to "conjure" her weather effects. Thats not the case at all. Any long time reader of the X-men knows thats not the case.
Storm will have craeted a hurricane in seconds and then with a thought spiderman would be swept up. He cant escape storms winds when the weather effect will engulf the battlefield. There is no escaping the wind for Spidey. So im puzzled as to why you say "it will take too long to be effective." Thats simply not true. So what if Spiderman can stick to walls. He could still be dragged off with hurricane winds. Or while Spidermans clinging on for dear life whats to stop Storm from blasting him?
1) Should Spidey cling to something, it better be something strong enough to withstand a tornado or the clinging isn't worth a damn!!!
2) Should Spidey "go with the wind" and float around like Nataku suggested, what keeps Storm from blasting him with a lightning while she levitates him??? He can by no means dodge, because he has no ground to move himself from one point to the other!
3) Storm has proven herself being able to fly INSTANTLY...and she does that with conjured winds...i leave the implications for your sharp minds to unravel!
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Once more, the handbooks are wrong, then. 2 means "Normal"...which Spider-Man clearly is not.Storm wins this 8/10, btw.
Doesnt mean theyre wrong, you need to remember that each level encompases a range of values/degrees. Spidermans durability just isnt sufficient enough to place him in the next category. In a world of superheros with atomic blasts and super strength he might as well be of normal durability because what he does have in that area really doesnt make a difference.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yes, but he still has enchanced durability.If 1 is "Poor", then I think that 2 means normal human and 3 means enchanced. Like Spider-Man.
He obviously isnt as durable as you think and certainly not enough for Marvel to consider placing him in th enhanced category. There are degrees to each level. Remember that. Its not as simple as you seem to think.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Well...I just looked at Marvel Official site...and Spider-man is, indeed rated 3.
He isnt in the handbook but that could very well be a mistake going by who else is rated as enhanced. Either way wolverine and sabretooth are level 4's so thats not saying much is it lol
Originally posted by GalacticStormIt takes longer for her to conjure them than say, spiderman to hit her with something.
The wind can be generated virtually instantaneously. How do you think Storm flies? It takes storm seconds to create hurricane winds. We've had this discussion before. You and a lot of people on here seem to follow the misconception that Storm takes a considerable amount of time to "conjure" her weather effects. Thats not the case at all. Any long time reader of the X-men knows thats not the case.Storm will have craeted a hurricane in seconds and then with a thought spiderman would be swept up. He cant escape storms winds when the weather effect will engulf the battlefield. There is no escaping the wind for Spidey. So im puzzled as to why you say "it will take too long to be effective." Thats simply not true. So what if Spiderman can stick to walls. He could still be dragged off with hurricane winds. Or while Spidermans clinging on for dear life whats to stop Storm from blasting him?
On another note those uber deadly powers wouldn't work, because they'd be against her character.
And again, swing and pull, and spiderman is highly durable, no who's using the stats. He is losing the majority, I'm not arguing that.
HIs musculstature and skeletal structure allow him to have enhanced durabilty, and his heightened metabolism, keeps him from ever having scars. Granted his bones still need to be set, etc.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It takes longer for her to conjure them than say, spiderman to hit her with something.On another note those uber deadly powers wouldn't work, because they'd be against her character.
And again, swing and pull, and spiderman is highly durable, no who's using the stats. He is losing the majority, I'm not arguing that.
HIs musculstature and skeletal structure allow him to have enhanced durabilty, and his heightened metabolism, keeps him from ever having scars. Granted his bones still need to be set, etc.
As per forum rules all of the characters are in bloodlust mode unless otherwise stated by the thread maker. Storm in bloodlust mode has ripped out Marros heart and stabbed Callisto in the heart and regular readers will know that after her time in the arena Storm has had a hard time keeping control of her violent urges and actually finds pleasure in them. Storm would annihilate Spiderman.
As for his durability he is not highly durable. The man isnt even bullet proof which is a couple of levels above his ranking and his regenerative abilities arent sufficient enough to place him on the same level as wolverine. Wolverine with his adamantium skeleton and healing factor is considered more durable than Spiderman. Storm would fry either one of them with no problem at all. Theres no point mentioning his durability unless its a a factor which really contributes to his chances in thi sfight. If he was against another street leveller then fair enough but all of Storms arsenal in bloodlust mode would take him out no probs.