God Like Cable vs Superman

Started by -Pr-16 pages

Originally posted by carver9
As for Cable being able to TK people brains open... he did it twice to Deadpool. Blew his brains completely out the back of his head.

Here is one of the times.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9918/cd002030ef.jpg

As for other abilities, again, he brought someone back to life, shown high end matter manipulating abilities, bfr someone to the moon, bfred someone on the other side of the planet, tk built his base, turned invisible, sucked a virus out of a dying man... was shown teleporting to different sides of the globe, etc, etc... he did all of this with his tk/tp.

GL Cable>>>Manchester.

Deadpool's skull <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Superman's.

Lulz. I wouldn't believe Carver would actually try to compare TK bursting DP's skull to being able to do it to Superman if I hadn't seen it myself.

C'mon son.

crylaugh

Originally posted by carver9
The thing about this is, by the time Cable and Surfer fought each other, Cable was already weakened. He wasn't at full power. We don't know how a battle between the 2 would have went if Cable was complete. Cable was already weakening before the fight, by the time Surfer ran up on him, it was near the end (death).

I've been going through that comics and found no evidence of him being weakened at all in that fight.. His body is burning out, yeah that I get but the energy output his generating should be the same. Infact it's actually a lot higher than normal as his being force to use it much more which means > stronger/powerful than his average portrayal. He gave it all against Surfer and it was not enough..

Originally posted by Ambient
I've been going through that comics and found no evidence of him being weakened at all in that fight.. His body is burning out, yeah that I get but the energy output his generating should be the same. Infact it's actually a lot higher than normal as his being force to use it much more which means > stronger/powerful than his average portrayal. He gave it all against Surfer and it was not enough..
not really a big part of cable has always been that his powers have always been a big part of sustaining himself. Personally for that fight I felt that he had to deliberately limit himself or risk "burning out" faster. It's like having a 10000GW generator strapped to a 5 ohm resistor yeah you have all the power you could ever want at your disposal but it doesn't mean squat if you're going to burn out using it.

Originally posted by Ambient
I've been going through that comics and found no evidence of him being weakened at all in that fight.. His body is burning out, yeah that I get but the energy output his generating should be the same. Infact it's actually a lot higher than normal as his being force to use it much more which means > stronger/powerful than his average portrayal. He gave it all against Surfer and it was not enough..

Didn't look hard enough...

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/4586/cabledeadpool092005broocl7.jpg

It was mentioned that he was getting weaker and this was during the middle of the story. By the time Surfer faced him, he was near death.

As for the people that is bringing up the deadpool getting his head blown out from the "inside out"... the scan wasn't put up to show that Deadpool skull equal Superman skull, the scan was put up to show that Cable can attack from the inside out. Since Cable TK IS more powerful than Manchester and Manchester gave Supes a stroke, well, you get the rest.

This is basically none debatable... Cable TK AND TP during this stage, especially at his Prime, make MB powers look like boo boo. When a guy can break down metal with his TK to the atomic level with just a thought and also matter manipulate with it and bring back life... this is a whole nother level.

Originally posted by carver9
Didn't look hard enough...

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/4586/cabledeadpool092005broocl7.jpg

It was mentioned that he was getting weaker and this was during the middle of the story. By the time Surfer faced him, he was near death.

As for the people that is bringing up the deadpool getting his head blown out from the "inside out"... the scan wasn't put up to show that Deadpool skull equal Superman skull, the scan was put up to show that Cable can attack from the inside out. Since Cable TK IS more powerful than Manchester and Manchester gave Supes a stroke, well, you get the rest.

This is basically none debatable... Cable TK AND TP during this stage, especially at his Prime, make MB powers look like boo boo. When a guy can break down metal with his TK to the atomic level with just a thought and also matter manipulate with it and bring back life... this is a whole nother level.

smh...

Originally posted by carver9
This is basically none debatable... Cable TK AND TP during this stage, especially at his Prime, make MB powers look like boo boo. When a guy can break down metal with his TK to the atomic level with just a thought and also matter manipulate with it and bring back life... this is a whole nother level.

you would put Exodus above Manchester then?

Originally posted by Allankles
That's pretty much all that needs to be said about this. Lots of guys with TK out there, none of them use their powers the same. MB uses his TK with the kind of precision you don't see from other TKers.

Seems a bit like the Iceman vs Supes debate, where people were arguing about what a full powered Iceman [b]could do minus the benefit of actual feats. [/B]

Cable uses his tk to manipulate matter...his control of tk >>>> MB.

Cable is better than MB at everything. Let's not even go there.

Originally posted by Mindset
Cable uses his tk to manipulate matter...his control of tk >>>> MB.

Cable is better than MB at everything. Let's not even go there.

... even before god cable just holding back the technovirus was still high end matter manips to keep it from consuming him. Hell look at Mutant Messiah. Depowered Cable exhausted from years of conflict and constant war was still TKing the technovirus.

Originally posted by inimalist
you would put Exodus above Manchester then?

Yep...

Let me put it like this... Exodus fought Hulk and got 2 paneled where Cable "before" even receiving this massive upgrade, a Cable that was exploring his TK and TP fought an ENRAGE Hulk and sat there and let Hulk POUND on him to no effect. His shields that surrounds his body were basically unbreachable. Then Cable was telepathically linked to every being on the Planet during that run and knew everyones move before they did it... hell, he could literally read the future and even knew of Surfer attack days before it happened.

Yes, he is FAAAAAAAAAR above Exodus.

I think Superman can take him.

Originally posted by carver9
Yep...

Let me put it like this... Exodus fought Hulk and got 2 paneled where Cable "before" even receiving this massive upgrade, a Cable that was exploring his TK and TP fought an ENRAGE Hulk and sat there and let Hulk POUND on him to no effect. His shields that surrounds his body were basically unbreachable. Then Cable was telepathically linked to every being on the Planet during that run and knew everyones move before they did it... hell, he could literally read the future and even knew of Surfer attack days before it happened.

Yes, he is FAAAAAAAAAR above Exodus.

When did Cable fight Hulk and emerge completely unhurt?

For your sake, I hope you're not talking about the fight during Onslaught.

Originally posted by -Pr-
When did Cable fight Hulk and emerge completely unhurt?

For your sake, I hope you're not talking about the fight during Onslaught.

Never said unhurt... a PISSED Hulk couldn't drop a Cable that was "letting" him punch him in the head.

I think it did happen during the Onslaught run, Cable was teamed with Storm and both were fighting the Hulk (well, Cable was trying to reason with him).

Originally posted by carver9
Never said unhurt... a PISSED Hulk couldn't drop a Cable that was "letting" him punch him in the head.
You said "to no effect" which is pretty much the same.

*points@my sig*

Originally posted by carver9
Never said unhurt... a PISSED Hulk couldn't drop a Cable that was "letting" him punch him in the head.

I think it did happen during the Onslaught run, Cable was teamed with Storm and both were fighting the Hulk (well, Cable was trying to reason with him).

Originally posted by Parmaniac
You said "to no effect" which is pretty much the same.

*points@my sig*

and no, you're wrong carver. or did you forget that at one point, hulk almost killed him?

bada and I are going to have to sit down and have a serious talk about you and this forum, sadly.

Originally posted by -Pr-

bada and I are going to have to sit down and have a serious talk about you and this forum, sadly.
dontgetit He's just being himself...

Originally posted by -Pr-
and no, you're wrong carver. or did you forget that at one point, hulk almost killed him?

this. and there is a LOT wrong with several other posts but honestly i can no longer be bothered.....

this is making for interesting discussion though. so do most seem to think a strong tk'er can simply blow up the brain of superman?? what about ss?? why didn't cable attack ss that way?

Originally posted by -Pr-
and no, you're wrong carver. or did you forget that at one point, hulk almost killed him?

bada and I are going to have to sit down and have a serious talk about you and this forum, sadly.

Hhhmmm, I can see how you would come up with that.

I also think we are talking about 2 different fights. I will find at least part of the fight for you because I don't remember anything stating that Cable almost died.

Originally posted by leonidas
this. and there is a LOT wrong with several other posts but honestly i can no longer be bothered.....

this is making for interesting discussion though. so do most seem to think a strong tk'er can simply blow up the brain of superman?? what about ss?? why didn't cable attack ss that way?

Cable was weakened during the time he fought Surfer.