Book Six : Harry Potter And The Half Blood Prince [merged]

Hey, Im new here. THis is my first post in this thread, so hi! I have a question about the sixth book. J.K Rowling didnt give the release date yet, right? But does anyone have any clue at all around which time it will be released? 😄

no the slightest damn clue! ^.^ but id think that a really wise buisness choice would be to realese it during the holidays. get a TON of mulla that way.

Originally posted by DanZeke25
Well Trelawny made the prophecy... but thats all i can think of.

And this is my theory on the two questions JK said to focus on.
Its probaly way off, but.......

I think that Voldemort didnt die when the curse rebounded off Harry because of the prophecy. It say "Either must die in the hands of the other." and in this case, voldemort made the spell and it hit him. So that means Voldemort hit himself with his own spell and thats why he didnt die. Harry has to kill him or Voldemort has to kill Harry.

And Dumbledore didnt kill Voldemort either because Harry has to kill Voldemort or Voldemort Has to kill Harry.

If ur rite about the steps thing... then my first answer is wrong.

Ofcourse I am right about the steps thing. JKR said herself on her official website. But your answer to the second question is really good and easily acceptable. Yes. That IS a good reason. That Dumbledore didnt try to kill Voldemort in Ministry because he knew the full prophecy. And he knew Harry has to kill Voldemort or otherwise something unexpected will happen if someone else tried to kill Voldemort. And that unexpected thing can go way wrong for anti-Voldemort people...

P.S. I totally agree with you lilboredshorty. 🙂

Where does she say it cause i cant find it anywhere?

So how long do you think it takes to edit/publish a book? I'm DIEING to read Book 6!!!!!!!! Yikes...time for work!

i heard around decemeber. . . i hope thats true 🙂

There is only one problem: that answer is just to easy and simple. It is the most obvious thing on why Dumbledore didn't kill Voldemort. There has to be another reason. If that was the reason J.K. Rowling probably wouldn't have said it was such an important question. It just doesn't make any sense. J.K. Rowling would never make anything that obvious..But maybe she just wanted us to think that...-shrugs- I really don't get it...

My guess is that The Half-Blood Prince won't come out until the summer of 2005. She is already halfway through writing it(the first half took her about a year). The second half is suppose to take a much shorter time.

Barty Crouch dies in Goblet of Fire. Remember, he was going crazy. He was either shouting orders at Percy, or being normal(but still crazy). When Harry gets Dumbledore, Barty Crouch is gone. The son kills him, then he transfigured him into a bone or something and buried the bone.
The reason all the Death Eaters escaped from Azkaban was because the dementors are now on Voldemort's side.

There had to be another reason why Voldemort survived and didn't die when the Avada Kedarva curse rebounded. Right after you get hit with it, you die. It said that he wasn't alive, but wasn't dead either. I think one of the reaons he didn't die was because the prophecy states that "The Dark Lord will make him his equal.."(or something like that). When Voldemort hit Harry with the spell, Harry got Voldemort's powers transferred to him. The spell didn't really rebound. It didn't bounce off Harry(well I don't think it did anyways..). I don't think Voldemort was even hit with it. I think the reason Voldemort became so weak was just because all his powers were transferred to Harry. Maybe that is why he wasn't alive or dead, there wasn't really much left to him except for his spirit. Everything was gone. What he did to survive was drink the blood of unicorns.

The reason Voldermort didn't die when he was hit with the spell is because he had been working for years to make himself immortel, so he could live forever. Thats really why the spell didn't work on him

But how come they only say Harry is the only person to ever survive the curse? If it did hit Voldemort, they would say Harry AND Voldemort are the only people to ever survive it.

Everyone (well mostly everyone) believed voldermort to be dead. And Harry was also pretty much uneffected by it as well, while vodermort was made into something less then humen

But remember in Goblet of Fire? By then they all knew that Voldemort was alive. Moody(or Barty Crouch Jr.)was talking about how only one person has survived it and then said,"And that person is sitting right infront of me." They both knew that Voldemort had returned. He obviously wasn't dead. As long as you aren't dead when the curse hits you, you have survived it. I still don't think Voldemort was hit with the spell. I just think all his powers were transferred to Harry when he hit Harry with the spell.

Crouch I think was just playing the part, telling everybody that Voldermort also survived the curse might have brought a bit to much attention to himself, at that time and place.

I thought it said that the spell kinnda bounced off Harry and hit Voldermort. . . thats always what I pictured

Everybody knew about Voldemort's return in Sorceror's Stone. Even if they all thought he was dead when the Stone was destroyed, they all knew he wasn't dead from the curse, but when the Stone was destroyed.

Not everybody. . .just a few. .. .

But when people are saying survived, they really kinnda mean, the spell hit him. . and nothing happened. He got a scar on his head and thats it. And while Voldermort got hit with the spell after Harry did, and he also did not die, he ended up being this thing in the woods

Btw welcome to the fourms! I just noticed I had not given you a good welcome yet ^_^

The whole school of Hogwarts knew about it. I am sure Moody knew about it too. To survive something means to live through it.
Well I still think that he just became weak because when Harry was hit with the curse it sort of backfired. Instead of Harry dying, he recieved Voldemort's powers.

Thanks for the welcome! XD -glomps you- hehe

They knew something had happened. . .they didn't know it was voldermort. .. i'm pretty sure that they thought it was Quirrel trying to steal the stone for himself, and Harry stopped him

You guys are using the word "survive" a lot, as in "Harry is the only one to survive the curse." Could this reflect anything at all about the part in the prophecy about "...And either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives..."

Maybe the curse didn't rebound off of Harry and hit Voldemort...maybe Harry had to be marked as Voldemort's equal before Voldemort could kill him and when he sent the curse upon Harry it was no good, b/c part of the prophecy had not come to pass. So Voldemort's powers were transferred to Harry making Harry his equal, and the scar is just a physical mark that was a result of the transfer of power as well as completing that portion of the prophecy.

BUT there has to be a MUCH deeper connection between them. Just look at their wands, how is it that the brother of Voldemort's wand chose Harry? Curious!

It's safe to say that Dumbledore knows quite a bit of what happened the night when Voldemort killed the Potter's, he wows us at the end of EVERY book w/ more information, and he isn't telling Harry until he thinks Harry is ready. So it is safe, too, to assume that Dumbledore would know of this deep connection btwn Harry and Voldemort, and therefore would not risk anything happening to Harry. Dumbledore was probably one of the few, if not the only one, to hear the prophecy in its entirety, and he's had 15 years to think about what it means. He would know that Harry (or Neville) is THE ONE w/ the power to vanquish the Dark Lord...not "If Harry is being possessed you can step in and kill the Dark Lord."

Originally posted by DanZeke25
Where does she say it cause i cant find it anywhere?

Haven't you read the Edinburgh interview completely and carefully?

🙂

Originally posted by tracygarrett
You guys are using the word "survive" a lot, as in "Harry is the only one to survive the curse." Could this reflect anything at all about the part in the prophecy about "...And either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives..."

Maybe the curse didn't rebound off of Harry and hit Voldemort...maybe Harry had to be marked as Voldemort's equal before Voldemort could kill him and when he sent the curse upon Harry it was no good, b/c part of the prophecy had not come to pass. So Voldemort's powers were transferred to Harry making Harry his equal, and the scar is just a physical mark that was a result of the transfer of power as well as completing that portion of the prophecy.

BUT there has to be a MUCH deeper connection between them. Just look at their wands, how is it that the brother of Voldemort's wand chose Harry? Curious!

It's safe to say that Dumbledore knows quite a bit of what happened the night when Voldemort killed the Potter's, he wows us at the end of EVERY book w/ more information, and he isn't telling Harry until he thinks Harry is ready. So it is safe, too, to assume that Dumbledore would know of this deep connection btwn Harry and Voldemort, and therefore would not risk anything happening to Harry. Dumbledore was probably one of the few, if not the only one, to hear the prophecy in its entirety, and he's had 15 years to think about what it means. He would know that Harry (or Neville) is THE ONE w/ the power to vanquish the Dark Lord...not "If Harry is being possessed you can step in and kill the Dark Lord."

Good stuff, I like it.

I am also interested in what Tom Riddle did to become Voldemort, Riddle is described as a young boy who looks similar to Harry yet Voldemort is described as looking more like some kind of demon that a human. Hopefully nook 6 will fill us in.