Agnostic and Atheist?

How can u maybe beleive in God? You either do or u dont, not in between. To me an agnostic is someone with not enough faith to follow a religion so he/she takes the easy way out. Doesnt want to go to church, pray or wat have u but doesnt dismiss that there might be a higher power in the universe, sad.

I for one am an Atheist and choose not to beleive in God(s) and stick to science and facts.

I respect your choice on atheism but I just want to correct you in the fact that most parts of science have no clue what facts are.

Originally posted by Shadwofathought
I respect your choice on atheism but I just want to correct you in the fact that most parts of science have no clue what facts are.

Allow me to correct you:

sci·ence n. The system of knowledge covering truths or the operation of laws concerning the physical world and its phenomena as obtained and tested through the scientific method.

All science does is deal with facts.

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I respect your choice on atheism but I just want to correct you in the fact that most parts of science have no clue what facts are.

How can science deal with facts when those facts are often proved to be wrong? e.g. a thousand years ago, it was a fact that the earth was flat

Originally posted by Phoenix
How can science deal with [b]facts when those facts are often proved to be wrong? e.g. a thousand years ago, it was a fact that the earth was flat [/B]

The idea that the earth is flat was never a fact, it was a hypothesis. 🙄

We know NOW that it was never a fact. As far as they could prove the earth revolved around the sun and the earth was flat. We've since learned otherwise. But who's to say that all the "facts" they're dealing with now aren't in the same category that they'll be proven to be false later.

Originally posted by Shadwofathought
We know NOW that it was never a fact. As far as they could prove the earth revolved around the sun and the earth was flat. We've since learned otherwise. But who's to say that all the "facts" they're dealing with now aren't in the same category that they'll be proven to be false later.

Facts cannot be proven incorrect, only hypothesis and theories can. 🙄

Instead of rolling your eyes at us all, try to remember this is a philosophy forum not a science forum. Philosophy is to do with humans - what humans belive to be true are facts for them not hypothesis or theory. the earth is flat was a FACT for most humans, NOT a hypothesis or a theory.

Well said Phoenix. ✅

thas true pheonix but then again these scientific facts or hypothesise have some solid ground to them and are always ready to accept more convincing hypothesis, but relegion on the other hand is factless, baseless, irrational and stubborn in a sense that it doesnt accept ANY logic, which makes it completely ridiculuos.

That's not true. It always depends on who you are dealing with. I will agree that there are many religious people who refuse to accept certain "facts" and they are very irrational but that's not the case with all religious folks. Its just the stereotype. And not all scientists are willing to accept new theories (it took long enough for them to accept that the world was in fact not flat and the earth didn't revolve around the sun).

Originally posted by Phoenix
Instead of rolling your eyes at us all, try to remember this is a philosophy forum not a science forum. Philosophy is to do with humans - what humans belive to be true are facts for them not hypothesis or theory. the earth is flat was a FACT for most humans, NOT a hypothesis or a theory.

What pragmatic nonsense. Facts cannot be proven incorrect if they are truly facts. If one were to believe that 1 + 1 = 3, would that then be "true" and a "fact" as well?

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^ Oh, what is this? That's right, it is an eye roll. Try to remember that "philosophy" is Latin for "love of knowledge," a study that science certainly pertains to.

Nice Adam!! 😄

the earth is flat was a FACT for most humans, NOT a hypothesis or a theory.

Underground society....Lets go.

ive met very few athiest, but i'd like to ask one: "how the do u think everything was created?"

and what are u exactly sk8stuff?
christian?

i'm jus wondering..

Alot of ideas on his thread ✅

I'm Agnostic...have been for ages..

but recently ive been thinking about becoming an Atheist....