Dr. Doom vs. Iron Man

Started by norrin radd15 pages

he can´t defeat galactus and beyonder, what he did, was stole they´re power. after that of course he can defeat them.

But IM have no apparent weakness like Galactus with is cosmic power, IM have nothing to drain. Am I wrong if i suppose that Doom leech Glactus cosmic power?

um, Doom went about stealing Galactus' power in a very ingenious method that cant really be duplicated...If he had to steal the power of Iron Man, Im sure he could devise a means...however, there would be no point, Iron Man does not have any greater source of power than Doom's own armor...again, Im not talking about a Doombot's armor...Im talking about the real Doom's armor, check out Fantastic Four #350.

In Infinity Wars, Kang and Doom snuck into the Magus' citidal without detection. When they revealed themselves, Warlock, who was also there, sided with Magus, the devil he knew, against Doom and Kang, the devil he didn't. Well, Doom punked Warlocked with a blast from his gauntlet (not the Infinity Gauntlet) and knocked him out cold. Magus clocked Kang and left. Doom thanked Kang for helping make him the new "Monarch of the Universe" and took Kang out with blast. He then went after Magus and punked him as well. But just before Magus handed over the Infinity Gauntlet, LT overturned his previous ruling, and Magus become omnipotent.

Doom > Iron Man

Originally posted by crazyspinz
YARRRR

The Exiles-threeparter #23-24-25 "With an Iron fist". It featured not the Exiles, but the more ruthless team Weapon X.

In the reality they were supposed to "fix", Tony Stark was a VERY evil man. Like Doom without the magic - and much more effective.

(The Doom-cloak was a souvenir from his fight with Doom - he killed him.)

Originally posted by Beyonder
In Infinity Wars, Kang and Doom snuck into the Magus' citidal without detection. When they revealed themselves, Warlock, who was also there, sided with Magus, the devil he knew, against Doom and Kang, the devil he didn't. Well, Doom punked Warlocked with a blast from his gauntlet (not the Infinity Gauntlet) and knocked him out cold. Magus clocked Kang and left. Doom thanked Kang for helping make him the new "Monarch of the Universe" and took Kang out with blast. He then went after Magus and punked him as well. But just before Magus handed over the Infinity Gauntlet, LT overturned his previous ruling, and Magus become omnipotent.

Doom > Iron Man

Yea u never know what Doom has in that armor...but its definitely more than a repulser ray 😉

Doom's regular armor has no where near the offensive/defensive capabilities of Iron Man's. If I'm not mistaken, Doom can only lift about 2 tons max with the armor on, as opposed to Iron Man's 80 ton limit.

The energy blasts he generates from the gauntlet's are nothing to sneeze at(ie he's toppled the surfer, warlock, and magus before with them..), however, I really don't think there's to much more he can do from an offensive stand point that Stark's Armor can't counter.

But what the Doctor's suit lacks in versatility and over all power, Doom more than make's up for in ample offensive/defensive devices.(ie force fields, teleportation devices, etc) Add to this his extrodinary genius level intellect, and you have an extremely deadly foe, regardless of what physical power level he possesses. Don't get me wrong, Stark is one of the smartest guys in the MU, but Doom waaay outclasses him when it comes to overall intelligence & cunning.

Even with the Doctor's great intellect, I doubt there's much Victor could do to Stark without some sort of prep time before battle. Not to say that he wouldn't give him a good fight, not at all, but I do believe Tony has more than enough power to take Doom out in a random-out of the blue encounter. In this type of scenario, the more likely ending would be the good Doctor running away to fight another day.

Now if we're talking about a battle which involves prep time, then Victor takes Tony down more often than not(possibly every battle) as Doom has shown time and time again that he can take down anyone just short of the Living Tribunal's level of power when given ample time/resources to prepare.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Doom's regular armor has no where near the offensive/defensive capabilities of Iron Man's. If I'm not mistaken, Doom can only lift about 2 tons max with the armor on, as opposed to Iron Man's 80 ton limit.

The energy blasts he generates from the gauntlet's are nothing to sneeze at(ie he's toppled the surfer, warlock, and magus before with them..), however, I really don't think there's to much more he can do from an offensive stand point that Stark's Armor can't counter.

But what the Doctor's suit lacks in versatility and over all power, Doom more than make's up for in ample offensive/defensive devices.(ie force fields, teleportation devices, etc) Add to this his extrodinary genius level intellect, and you have an extremely deadly foe, regardless of what physical power level he possesses. Don't get me wrong, Stark is one of the smartest guys in the MU, but Doom waaay outclasses him when it comes to overall intelligence & cunning.

Even with the Doctor's great intellect, I doubt there's much Victor could do to Stark without some sort of prep time before battle. Not to say that he wouldn't give him a good fight, not at all, but I do believe Tony has more than enough power to take Doom out in a random-out of the blue encounter. In this type of scenario, the more likely ending would be the good Doctor running away to fight another day.

Now if we're talking about a battle which involves prep time, then Victor takes Tony down more often than not(possibly every battle) as Doom has shown time and time again that he can take down anyone just short of the Living Tribunal's level of power when given ample time/resources to prepare.

We r talking about the real Doom, not a Doombot...dont forget that 95% of Doom's appearances are simply as Doombots.

All Doombot's a side, you can't argue with the stats my man. In his regular armor Doom is waay outclassed by Iron Man in terms of power. He'd be a fool to fight Stark Mano e Mano with it, and wouldn't even try. Now given time to prepare before the battle, Doom could(and probably would) succeed, and has more than enough going for him in resources and intellect to amp up his armor to match that of Iron Man's.

How about Doom's disintegrator gun or anti-matter grenade? You can't really say Doom's armor doesn't have the weaponry to take down Ironman.

Lets say IM does defeat Doom. But it wont matter cause awhile later it will be revealed that he didnt beat Doom rather one of his Doombots. It happens all the time and is getting silly.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
All Doombot's a side, you can't argue with the stats my man. In his regular armor Doom is waay outclassed by Iron Man in terms of power. He'd be a fool to fight Stark Mano e Mano with it, and wouldn't even try. Now given time to prepare before the battle, Doom could(and probably would) succeed, and has more than enough going for him in resources and intellect to amp up his armor to match that of Iron Man's.

But ur stats r inaccurate...ur comparing Iron Man to a Doombot...not the Doom that fought Terrax, or Hyperstorm, or the Beyonder/Galactus, or Kristoff...u should read FF # 350

Didn't say it doesn't, what I said was that IM has more than enough going for him to counter doom on a chance encounter. Repulsar Rays, speeds above mach 2, super strength, and a host of other high tech weaponry. I mean hell, IM has been able to take down the Savage Hulk before, keep in mind that this was using a much older version of his armor.

And how often does Doom carry all his gadgetry around with him? In fact, most of the time he rarely ever engages in physical battles unless its entails the acquisition of some sort of nigh infinite power and he knows he has what it takes to defeat his opponent. I doubt if he came across a chance battle with IM, he'd engage him in a brawl for all type battle. Sorry my dear... But Victor is smart enough to know that against someone like Tony he's going to have to prepare.

Originally posted by Wynndar
But ur stats r inaccurate...ur comparing Iron Man to a Doombot...not the Doom that fought Terrax, or Hyperstorm, or the Beyonder/Galactus, or Kristoff...u should read FF # 350

What do you mean I'm comparing Iron Man to a Doombot, I didn't make such a comparison..don't know where your coming from there buddy...

As far as stats go, I get them from the Official Handbook to the Marvel Universe.

Anyway, most of the battles you mentioned above were battles where Doom prepared to battle these powerful opponents before he went to battle.

When Doom fought Beyonder for example, he had stolen galactus's power. And If I do recall in his battle with Kristoff, he had the Grey Hulk and a sh** load of other people helping him.

So In conclusion, although Doom is powerful and deadly foe in his own right, he is intelligent enough to know when he's outclassed against an enemy. IMO in a chance encounter against a foe of Iron Man's calibur, he will more than likely back down and plan to fight another day.

Ironman vs. Doctor Doom

😗 This seems like a fair fight. Both have had years to build an empire, armor, intellect, and battle readiness.borgI wonder if they both carry can openers.

Iron-Man has the better suits I think.

But Doom has the intellect, skill and trickery.

-AC

i whould give this to Doctor Doom this guy is pure intellect he don't use force but ways to beat the oponent even if someone is really strong like silver surfer this guy finds a way to steal , ect.

So ya i think doom whould win this

I have to side with the Doc on this one.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290835&highlight=Iron+man+doom
look what I found

Yeah thread already done....