Originally posted by HewhoknowsallSo I would ENJOY an oppurtunity that would give me a chance to live.
He ENJOYED their suffering and it gave them strength.He even tried to make it SLOW and DELAY it in order to build up the moment.
He also contemplated killing someone that had just saved his life.
So? I contemplate killing people all the time. Have I killed them all? No, just one of them. I also give generously, i am a magnanimous person, am I evil?
Lord Kaan's (we're talking about all sith) thoughts:
"He relished their suffering and despair; even now he could sense it rising up like the stench from the broken corpses scattered about the valley"
And this wasn't because his life was in peril: he simply relished peoples' suffering.
How twisted can someone get?
The sith code says that peace is a lie. They actually want war and suffering.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I hate the absolute morality line. I just don't by that every single person that supported the Empire KNEW of, and was AWARE of the atrocities that took place.
Of course not; this is stated NUMEROUS times. For example, Star Wars: Death Star was basically about imperials recognizing the evilness and tyranny of the Empire.
When the Death Star blew up, one of them said that not everyone on the Death Star was a monster.
A very good question - Caedus was willing to destroy the galaxy to protect Allana. He wanted 'peace,' but he figured as Ben put it "total control."
Some Sith become Sith for reasons they thought would be right. Anakin thought he could save Padme for example. As tragic as it was, he was willing to kill innocents to save her. That's hardly not being evil. Sith manipulate, lie, murder and lust for absolute power. If that's not evil, then what is?
Originally posted by Bespin Bart
Whether or not you like the moral absolutism of Star Wars and the Sith being evil, it's how it is.
GL doesn't decide morality.
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
A very good question - Caedus was willing to destroy the galaxy to protect Allana. He wanted 'peace,' but he figured as Ben put it "total control."Some Sith become Sith for reasons they thought would be right. Anakin thought he could save Padme for example. As tragic as it was, he was willing to kill innocents to save her. That's hardly not being evil. Sith manipulate, lie, murder and lust for absolute power. If that's not evil, then what is?
Sith that aren't TRULY "evil":
Caedus
Dooku?
Vader in his early years
Originally posted by Echuu
yeah thought soit'd be nice if george would clear that up for us
I think George lets people make up their own minds.
He has said, in regards to the Sith - "Evil people don't think they are commiting evil. They think they are doing good, from their point of view." For the Sith, they believe they are embracing what the Force can grant them, willing to take the risks the Jedi won't. Maybe every one of them thought they could beat the trap of the dark side (that it makes you power hungry and paranoid), but they all fail.
The Sith can think they're doing the right thing all they want, that doesn't mean they are. Really, there is an obvious moral absolutism in Star Wars- Good vs. Bad, Light vs. Dark. No in-betweens or amiguous morality. It's a discussion that has been done a million times over on KMC.
As Sids66 responded to you, Hewhoknowsall, Lucas very much can decide what the morality is of his work.
Originally posted by REXXXXBut what of the regular Joes? The ones who don't know shit about the evil-doings of their overlords, but still support the regime? Moral absolutists would claim that their ignorance is no excuse.
The Sith can think they're doing the right thing all they want, that doesn't mean they are. Really, there is an obvious moral absolutism in Star Wars- Good vs. Bad, Light vs. Dark. No in-betweens or amiguous morality. It's a discussion that has been done a million times over on KMC.
Originally posted by Lord LucienYou mean like the people from the Novel "Death Star" where it shows you what happens from their PoV and how they feel?
But what of the regular Joes? The ones who don't know shit about the evil-doings of their overlords, but still support the regime? Moral absolutists would claim that their ignorance is no excuse.