Are the Sith really Evil? Honestly

Maul couldn't have been much of a public figure, really. I feel like that wouldn't work well. 😛

Originally posted by REXXXX
Maul couldn't have been much of a public figure, really. I feel like that wouldn't work well. 😛

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Sidious needed someone powerful and charismatic like Count Dooku to get his plans into motion during the years leading up to the Clone Wars.

Possibly. Sidious claims to have forseen Maul's death in the Essential Guide to the Force, but the Phantom Menace shows Sidious being extremely angry with his apprentice's death.

The point is that if Sidious didn't intend to lose Maul and replace him with Dooku, then he clearly had a plan for conquering the Republic without Dooku.

Or maybe he was going to use Dooku in some other fashion.

I don't recall Sidious being pissed TPM, though.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Or maybe he was going to use Dooku in some other fashion.

I don't recall Sidious being pissed TPM, though.

Novelization.

Ah good times. Lots of San People to be helped, no accents to be heard... good times.

Although he is usually considered an unknown I think there is one instance where the sith aren't trying to be bad. They simply didn't have any other choice. Revan. According to KOTOR 1+2 Revan saw something beyond the war and the difference in religion. He saw a greater darkness that had to be stopped for the galaxy to survive. The Jedi would not listen to him, or would not permit him to to go to war to fight this darkness so he turned on the Jedi and fought in the Mandalorian Wars. He would rather turn the Jedi than kill them though, why? Because they had to see it from his point of view and he would need their help to stop the darkness he had seen. He wanted peace but the Jedi would not allow him to fight for it. He also decided to take out certian political leaders that would upset the balance of the peace he was hoping to have but then Malak did the typical sith and tried to kill him. Revan was never able to finish his plans to stop the great darkness and bring peace. Of course we don't know if he would have brought peace or not because Malak interupted him. Because of Malak the Jedi, Sith, and the Republic were almost destroyed. Malak was evil, but I believe Revan was trying to find peace but was labeled a tyrant instead.
Hope this is considered thinking about it. Again Revan is considered an unknown and this info. was based off of KOTOR1+2. Not the most reliable sources.

Originally posted by Jamefril
Although he is usually considered an unknown I think there is one instance where the sith aren't trying to be bad. They simply didn't have any other choice. Revan. According to KOTOR 1+2 Revan saw something beyond the war and the difference in religion. He saw a greater darkness that had to be stopped for the galaxy to survive. The Jedi would not listen to him, or would not permit him to to go to war to fight this darkness so he turned on the Jedi and fought in the Mandalorian Wars. He would rather turn the Jedi than kill them though, why? Because they had to see it from his point of view and he would need their help to stop the darkness he had seen. He wanted peace but the Jedi would not allow him to fight for it. He also decided to take out certian political leaders that would upset the balance of the peace he was hoping to have but then Malak did the typical sith and tried to kill him. Revan was never able to finish his plans to stop the great darkness and bring peace. Of course we don't know if he would have brought peace or not because Malak interupted him. Because of Malak the Jedi, Sith, and the Republic were almost destroyed. Malak was evil, but I believe Revan was trying to find peace but was labeled a tyrant instead.
Hope this is considered thinking about it. Again Revan is considered an unknown and this info. was based off of KOTOR1+2. Not the most reliable sources.

Oh and what's considered Unknown is the KotOR character's powers and strengths, not their bios.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yeah... all of us here know all of that. And Revan's a Gary Stu, if there's gonna be a Sith that didn't truly "fall" to the Dark Side, and only embraced it to save the galaxy, it would be President "Revan" Obama.

Oh and what's considered Unknown is the KotOR character's powers and strengths, not their bios.

Even then, Revan's fall to the Dark Side was genuine, even if his motives were pure. Not to mention that in going to war with the Republic right after the Mandalorian War, he likely weakened it before the incoming invasion of the True Sith or whatever they're called.

OK. All that was asked is that we think about it, right? Thats what I was doing, nothing more. I wasn't impling that he didn't fall to the dark side I simply said he might not have been "evil." I know that his powers and strengths were unknown and that there is no way to prove the powers they have in the game are their actual powers. I not here to debate whats canon and whats not. I was just thinking, like we were asked to do.

The sith are evil, look at history look at the 2 main cultures the sith and empire are based off of the nazis and the romans. Some of you might say but the romans were not evil! They did do good but they also did alot of evil they had many sith like rulers for example nero, and alot of rome was drivin by war, greed, and a lust for power they would destroy anyone who didnt bend to their will or got in the way of what they wanted, they had no problem killing entire villages including women and children and also enslaved entire populations. And the nazis, do i really need to explain why they were evil?

Did you just classify an entire millennium-spanning civilization as "evil" due to the actions of a few like Nero? That's like saying "Germans are evil" because for a time during the 20th century, some of their leaders were.

Did you not read things in my post such as "they did do good" or "for example"? Im not classifying the romans as evil they accomplished a lot of good but they did do a lot of bad even under their good rulers, if you don't see the evil side of rome then you need to read up on the romans more.

Oh I saw it. But using solitary rulers as an example of "Romans being evil" is exactly like saying "Germans are evil" because they had Nazis. You wouldn't judge a kid by the actions of his father, don't judge a civilization by the actions of its dictators. Your second example is fine, but that leader one is misplaced.

I see what you mean but im not saying the actions of one man makes the romans evil let me re phrase it, nero and other roman rulers are perfect examples of how an evil person can become the ruler of a very powerful empire, just like how a sith is able to become the head of the republic and form a glactic empire.

I think it's more accurate to say that, for Rome, an insane man can be appointed the leader of a corrupt system, and for the Sith, an evil man can seize control of a corrupt system, and turn it evil.

Question, what Sith civilization is based on Romans?

The original Sith struck me as more based on Aztecs/Egyptians. Lots of pyramids, and the leaders were deified.

Most other Sith civs were either basically feudal lords, or like the Empire.

Revan's Sith? I guess... they had a lot of red. That's Roman.