Christianity, Judaism and Islam finally unite...against gays!

i said that people who are part of a religion generally have a higher moral stance

The only element that jumpstarts more wars than oil and land combined is religion.

Luckily now the 3 major religions can stop fighting amongst themselves and focus all of their hate and anger towards the gays. 😇

Maybe....there is a chance for peace? 😖arcasm:
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Oh.....

Out of the three, Islam is the most prejudice and ruthless one as it has the exact verses referring what is to be done with homosexuals. They have a precise law which forbids any sexuality - its illegal in Islamic countries still.

Christians follow not so persise rules - the bible isnt as detailed as Quran on homosexuality and whats to be done with offenders and such - and its not illegal in Christian countries.

Judaism has nothing on the homosexuality in the Torah, but i think for them its cultural and such.

Christians follow not so persise rules - the bible isnt as detailed as Quran on homosexuality and whats to be done with offenders and such - and its not illegal in Christian countries.

Im talking about the holy books in case you missed the whole point of my post. So do Jews!

The point was that they dont have the PERCISE RULES in the Bible the way they do in Quran and Torah doesnt have ANY rules on homosexuality and that its mostly to do with the culture of religion.

Please read the post.

Im talking about the holy books in case you missed the whole point of my post.

Please read the post

really i dont understand why gays are willing to believe in stupid relegions who hate their very existance in the first place, and i can assure you that although some relegions might have SOME good points, they are however mostly negetive and the only reason you hear that relegious poeple generally have more morals is cause its the people who go for that relegion in the first place that are telling you.

Perhaps it is that people, who can't chose sexuality, can't chose what they have faith in. If a gay person feels Christianity is right for him, he shouldn't have to hide it. After all, we love each other for our flaws, I guess that means some people will love their God, despite its flaws, and really, I think that if there is something divine it would have flaws. Nothing is perfect.

And Christians should be careful of precedent. When they first came out of the religious closet they were persecuted left, right and centre. However that just made them even more strong headed and prepared to stay the course. I hope one day gay people take over the world, just to spite foolish, small minded, self righteous, ultimately very flawed followers of religion (and those who don't). They seem to have forgotten so much of what they preach, such as the basic "Judge not lest ye be judged" and really, if there God sides with them on such a matter I think all should be judged. But eh, I don't think God would be like that. Seems awfully petty to be the ultimate and all, but get upset about sexuality, something people have NO choice about.

Originally posted by finti
yeah talk about who missed the point of the post here ❌

yeah please do

I see. But they dont treat gays any more harshly then Muslims or Jews do. In fact, as I mentioned homosexuality is illegal in Islamic countries - as a homosexual you lose human rights.

Not sure for Jews however, but I'll deffinitivly research that.

And Christians although being judgemental towards homosexuals as well as discriminative and prejudice particulary in America (although Europe aint that great either), have not passed the laws which take away human rights of homosexuals or made homosexuality illegal.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And Christians although being judgemental towards homosexuals as well as discriminative and prejudice particulary in America (although Europe aint that great either), have not passed the laws which take away human rights of homosexuals or made homosexuality illegal.

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Until the U.S. Supreme Court ruled sodomy laws unconstitutional on 26 Jun 2003, homosexuality was illegal in 13 states.

Gay, lesbian, and bisexual employees can be fired on the basis of their sexual orientation in 34 states.

U.S. immigration laws do not allow lesbian and gay citizens or permanent residents to petition for their same-sex partners to immigrate.

Same-sex couples are denied over 1,000 benefits, rights, and protections that federal law affords to married, heterosexual couples, as well as hundreds of such protections at the state level.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
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Until the U.S. Supreme Court ruled sodomy laws unconstitutional on 26 Jun 2003, homosexuality was illegal in 13 states.

Gay, lesbian, and bisexual employees can be fired on the basis of their sexual orientation in 34 states.

U.S. immigration laws do not allow lesbian and gay citizens or permanent residents to petition for their same-sex partners to immigrate.

Same-sex couples are denied over 1,000 benefits, rights, and protections that federal law affords to married, heterosexual couples, as well as hundreds of such protections at the state level.

Uuum, I know the history - much more the Europien and what had happened to people who did practice homosexuality. Homosexuality is not illegal - the marrage is, the act is not punishable by death.

But oh, if it is, then please provide me with the link to such constitutions.

Anyway, here are some links for you, please make sure you read them - then and maybe then you can release that my consern does not lie with america only, but in the opression of minorities across the world, as i have mentioned to you before - America doesnt equal the world -

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42242

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/1858469.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1813926.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/204934.stm

http://www.dianahsieh.com/undergrad/siic.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1655961.stm

http://urj.org/ask/homosexuality/

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=72432

Some Christian ones (but you already know those)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3258041.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3205727.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4256945.stm

I have few more on Judaism, I'll provide that later.

Maybe you can't see beyond America, but some of us can.

I wipe my ass on all of those religions.

And I second that.

Religion is one thing i cannot forgive the mankind for.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Uuum, I know the history - much more the Europien and what had happened to people who did practice homosexuality. Homosexuality is not illegal - the marrage is, the act is not punishable by death.

But oh, if it is, then please provide me with the link to such constitutions.

Anyway, here are some links for you, please make sure you read them - then and maybe then you can release that my consern does not lie with america only, but in the opression of minorities across the world, as i have mentioned to you before - America doesnt equal the world -

I have few more on Judaism, I'll provide that later.

Maybe you can't see beyond America, but some of us can.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And Christians although being judgemental towards homosexuals as well as discriminative and prejudice particulary in America (although Europe aint that great either), have not passed the laws which take away human rights of homosexuals or made homosexuality illegal.

And? Are you imprisoned in america for being homosexual? Are homosexuals stoned to death? Is homosexuality illegal at present?

Well?

Have you seen the links I provided, or do you like to selectivly read what I write?

'Particulary in America' comment was made to appease people like you who cannot see beyond what is in front of your face.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And? Are you imprisoned in america for being homosexual? Are homosexuals stoned to death? Is homosexuality illegal at present?

Well?

Have you seen the links I provided, or do you like to selectivly read what I write?

'Particulary in America' comment was made to appease people like you who cannot see beyond what is in front of your face.

Clearly, laws have been passed which make homosexuality illegal and take away the human rights of homosexuals, including in America, to the contrary of your previous statement.

Do not state that Christians, particularly those in America, are judgemental of homosexuality but have not passed laws which make homosexuality illegal or take away the rights of homosexuals, and then get upset when it is proven that you are wrong.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Out of the three, Islam is the most prejudice and ruthless one as it has the exact verses referring what is to be done with homosexuals. They have a precise law which forbids any sexuality - its illegal in Islamic countries still.

Christians follow not so persise rules - the bible isnt as detailed as Quran on homosexuality and whats to be done with offenders and such - and its not illegal in Christian countries.

Judaism has nothing on the homosexuality in the Torah, but i think for them its cultural and such.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Im talking about the holy books in case you missed the whole point of my post. So do Jews!

The point was that they dont have the PERCISE RULES in the Bible the way they do in Quran and Torah doesnt have ANY rules on homosexuality and that its mostly to do with the culture of religion.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I see. But they dont treat gays any more harshly then Muslims or Jews do. In fact, as I mentioned homosexuality is illegal in Islamic countries - as a homosexual you lose human rights.

Not sure for Jews however, but I'll deffinitivly research that.

And Christians although being judgemental towards homosexuals as well as discriminative and prejudice particulary in America (although Europe aint that great either), have not passed the laws which take away human rights of homosexuals or made homosexuality illegal.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Uuum, I know the history - much more the Europien and what had happened to people who did practice homosexuality. Homosexuality is not illegal - the marrage is, the act is not punishable by death.

But oh, if it is, then please provide me with the link to such constitutions.

Anyway, here are some links for you, please make sure you read them - then and maybe then you can release that my consern does not lie with america only, but in the opression of minorities across the world, as i have mentioned to you before - America doesnt equal the world -

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42242

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/1858469.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1813926.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/204934.stm

http://www.dianahsieh.com/undergrad/siic.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1655961.stm

http://urj.org/ask/homosexuality/

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=72432

Some Christian ones (but you already know those)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3258041.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3205727.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4256945.stm

I have few more on Judaism, I'll provide that later.

Maybe you can't see beyond America, but some of us can.

You really don't know what the hell you're talking about, do you?

The Quran has "exact verses" dealing with homosexuality and
what is to be done with it? The Bible isn't as detailed as the Quran
on homosexuality? And how many times have you read the
Quran, I wonder?

Most of the references to homosexuality in the Quran are like
those of the Bible, ones relating to the story of Lot.
http://www.geocities.com/IslamAwareness/Homo/homo.html

And who says the jewish Torah has nothing on homosexuality?
Where the hell do you think the story of Lot came from?

Go and read Genesis Chapter 19, about the story of Sodom and
Gamorrah.

Go read Leviticus Ch.20, V.13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as
he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them."
(Sounds pretty "precise" to me).

That's the Hebrew Old Testament, not the Christian New one.

As for Homosexuality outlawed in Muslim lands, and not in
the US and Europe. First of all, it's interesting that in the links
you provided about Egypt, it says that there are no official laws
against homosexuality.

But regardless, the reason why homosexuality isn't outlawed in
the US or Europe has nothing to do with Christianity, but rather
with the fact that these countries are secular. Muslim nations
are not (atleast not to the extent of the West). If the US or
western Europe wasn't secular, if they brought Christianity into
their laws like muslim countries do, then there homosexuality
would've been illegal there too.

That was a stupid comparison you made. It is akin to me comparing
the Pope with porn actor Ron Jeremy, and concluding that while
Christianity is a moral faith (because the christian Pope is a moral
man), Judaism is a completely immoral religion (because Ron
Jeremy,who is jewish, is immoral). That's nonesense.

Finally, it is none of your concern to judge these far older nations
and cultures on their views of morality. If they see homosexuality
as immoral, then that's their business. It's not for anyone to
push their moral (or immoral) views on them. They happen to see
polygamy as perfectly okay, but I'm thinking you wouldn't want
polygamy to be legalized in the West, would you?

But regardless, the reason why homosexuality isn't outlawed in
the US or Europe has nothing to do with Christianity, but rather
with the fact that these countries are secular. Muslim nations
are not (atleast not to the extent of the West). If the US or
western Europe wasn't secular, if they brought Christianity into
their laws like muslim countries do, then there homosexuality
would've been illegal there too.

They happen to see polygamy as perfectly okay but I'm thinking you wouldn't want polygamy to be legalized in the West, would you?