Originally posted by Robtard
Which sins are unforgivable and which scripture (OT, NT, Qur'an?) are you using?
The Holy Qur'an 4:48
(5) Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed.
Originally posted by Robtard
I do find it funny/odd when people cherry-pick...
Me too.
Originally posted by Deja~vu
It's like life insurance. lolGet your policy now, don't wait until an accident happens.
Basically yes. Once you're dead, it's too late. BETTER HURRY AND GET YOURS NOW WHILE SUPPLIES LAST!
Though there are some sects of Christianity that stipulate a soul can be saved and enter heaven even after death. Think the LDS might be one of them.
Originally posted by MRasheed
That's actually a misconception that even many Christians have about it, but it is not true. Just like it is in Islam, a Christian is not actually saved until he/she walks the talk too.
Yeah, but God forgives those that stray along the path though, so again, there is no real "X" amount of time is needed, just belief in the end.
Originally posted by MRasheedBut walking the talk is just doing good things, so then, a non-believer can actually walk in righteousness.
That's actually a misconception that even many Christians have about it, but it is not true. Just like it is in Islam, a Christian is not actually saved until he/she walks the talk too.
Originally posted by MRasheed
However much time you need to make sure our good deeds outweigh your bad deeds sure.
Except Jesus-God forgives bad deeds, as long as you accept him/Him as the savior, dude.
EG if I have 7,542 bad deeds and 5,526 good deeds. Accepting Jesus as my savior washes away the bad deeds, ergo, it's now 5,526 good to nil bad; I'm in pretty good shape in receiving that holy drop-kick through the pearly-gates once my ticket punches out.
Originally posted by Robtard
Except Jesus-God forgives bad deeds, as long as you accept him/Him as the savior, dude.EG if I have 7,542 bad deeds and 5,526 good deeds. Accepting Jesus as my savior washes away the bad deeds, ergo, it's now 5,526 good to nil bad; I'm in pretty good shape in receiving that holy drop-kick through the pearly-gates once my ticket punches out.
Your 'good' deeds as an unbeliever mean nothing, and are like "dust blowing away on the wind." Consequently, after your death bed conversion, your good deeds tally is at 0, and while your bad deeds were forgiven, the unforgivable ones are still there! So if you are too weak from being about to die, how are you possibly going to fix that within the next 3 minutes or whatever?
You see what I'm saying?
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
They are against gays getting married not just because they are gay.
True. Many people mistakenly believe that Christians hate gay people for being gay, which isn't true. (Though I can't speak for EVERYONE.)
I don't hate gay people at all. It's the acts that are the sin. And I'm a sinner myself. I can no more hate gays than I can hate myself. "Hate the sin, not the sinner" and all that jazz. 😎
Originally posted by MRasheed
Morals/ethics come from religion. To accept morality and in the same breath condemn religion as the scourge of humanity is ridiculous.
Actually, ethics is a philosophical digression from morality. Ethics is not of religious nature, but rather an attempt to make sense and logic of right and wrong, through use of philosophy over religion and God.
Additionally, morality is traditionally viewed as common sense. We've gotten a great deal of good from religion, and it's not a shame to embrace these values without embracing the religion itself. You can embrace the values of something, while at the same time curse the rest of it.
Take Hitler for example (Always Hitler), just because he was a bad man doesn't mean you can't give his intelligence credit. He was a smart man, of that there is no doubt, no matter what evil he did.
Originally posted by TacDavey
True. Many people mistakenly believe that Christians hate gay people for being gay, which isn't true. (Though I can't speak for EVERYONE.)I don't hate gay people at all. It's the acts that are the sin. And I'm a sinner myself. I can no more hate gays than I can hate myself. "Hate the sin, not the sinner" and all that jazz. 😎
"Hate the sin, love the sinner", a quote from the man who also said " I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ"