Originally posted by Supermutant
We do have unlimited power to have victory of the devil, if we believe and serve Jesus the Christ.
So why didn't stop the earthquake he started? Too busy?
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
No we do which is what God gaves us but the Devil temptes us to do evil things.
So God made the Devil, who can only do evil, including evil that has nothing to do with temptation (like earthquakes). That would mean that God is clearly responsible for killing innocent people.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Yes he did make the devil but the Devil turn from God and left him.It was the devil's fault for turning evil not God. So acourse the Devil can tempt us.
And according to you he can also slaughter us without us being able to do anything about it by causing earthquakes.
Seems like the kind of thing God should prevent if he cares about us. It wouldn't have any effect on our free will.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And according to you he can also slaughter us without us being able to do anything about it by causing earthquakes.Seems like the kind of thing God should prevent if he cares about us. It wouldn't have any effect on our free will.
I don't know if the devil is responsible for earthquakes any more than he is responsible for someone being eaten by a lion. Its possible for people to get hurt by things other than God or the devil.
Its not like we should blame every hardship on one or the other.
Force of Nature or Nature itself cannot be evil. It might appear cruel and evil to us. Nature simply is. Evil is something done with no other purpose then to inflict a wrong upon others.
I don't believe there is an entity like God or the Devil. It's just a way to redirect the guilt and feel better. Though I believe that Religion can be a good thing to most humans.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And according to you he can also slaughter us without us being able to do anything about it by causing earthquakes.Seems like the kind of thing God should prevent if he cares about us. It wouldn't have any effect on our free will.
I don't really see why you keep bringing that up. Just because that happens it has nothing to do with God doing it at all. He dead for our sins because he loves us that should be good enough.
Originally posted by TacDavey
I don't know if the devil is responsible for earthquakes any more than he is responsible for someone being eaten by a lion. Its possible for people to get hurt by things other than God or the devil.Its not like we should blame every hardship on one or the other.
ADSJ does believe the Devil is responsible for natural disasters.
Traditionally God is omnipotent. Stopping an earthquake would require no effort at all, save innocent people and good Christians, and not interfere with free will. Letting people die for no reason is depraved, in fact the Bible explicitly condemns it (see the story of The Good Samaritan). At best God is evil by his own standards.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I don't really see why you keep bringing that up. Just because that happens it has nothing to do with God doing it at all. He dead for our sins because he loves us that should be good enough.
According to you he created an unstoppable creature (the Devil) incapable of doing anything but murdering us. That's like bombing a city and saying the bomb should take the blame.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosWell, thou shalt not kill is just for us humble humans.God can do whatever the hell he wants. He's God after all.
ADSJ does believe the Devil is responsible for natural disasters.Traditionally God is omnipotent. Stopping an earthquake would require no effort at all, save innocent people and good Christians, and not interfere with free will. Letting people die for no reason is depraved, in fact the Bible explicitly condemns it (see the story of The Good Samaritan). At best God is evil by his own standards.
According to you he created an unstoppable creature (the Devil) incapable of doing anything but murdering us. That's like bombing a city and saying the bomb should take the blame.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
ADSJ does believe the Devil is responsible for natural disasters.Traditionally God is omnipotent. Stopping an earthquake would require no effort at all, save innocent people and good Christians, and not interfere with free will. Letting people die for no reason is depraved, in fact the Bible explicitly condemns it (see the story of The Good Samaritan). At best God is evil by his own standards.
That's not quite right. You would have to say that God not stopping an earthuake is evil only if there is no reason to allow it to happen other than causing pain and suffering. Which is not a claim you are in the position to make. At the very best you can claim that you cant see how it could be for any other reason. But that isn't enough to label God as evil. Especially considering God, by definition, is all loving and all just.
Sorry if this came out a little wierd. I'm still typing from a 3ds. 🙂