Where does evil come from?

Right off the bat waht are you defining as the greatest good and the greatest evil?

Originally posted by Alliance
Right off the bat waht are you defining as the greatest good and the greatest evil?

I'm not defining; I'm leaving it open.

can we even say greatest good and evil?

Originally posted by Alliance
can we even say greatest good and evil?

Yes. It is not absolute, but it is relative.

but its locally absolute, so does it have any social relevance?

Originally posted by Alliance
but its locally absolute, so does it have any social relevance?

Social relevance is all it has. Also, I don't see how it is locally absolute. I do believe there is an absolute truth, but it is beyond our understanding. Therefore, any absolute truth is not absolute as far as we are concerned.

I'm saying that personally, you have an opinon about what is more "good" or "evil", but these decisions hardly have global applications.

Originally posted by Alliance
I'm saying that personally, you have an opinon about what is more "good" or "evil", but these decisions hardly have global applications.

Oh, Personally? I see, I thought...

Personally, I judge good and evil by rather it makes me happy, and I keep a long term perspective on this. In other words, sort term suffering is okay because of possible happiness down the road.

Originally posted by Alliance
1. No more than you're rebuttal then iyo.

2a. How does this relate to evil at all?
2b. I don't know...there is something about fact that is well...so much more concrete/defendable😛

3a. I don't know where you thought I was referencing Hitler's opinion, but I wasn't. I was merely stating my own.
3b. You said that evil is rooted in DT through "overcompensation for percieved disempowerment." I don't understand how your rebutall defends your argument. Hitler likely did not percieve himself in a state of disempowerment. There are likely sources that support my opinion.

1. Absolutely. DT drives everything a living thing does (actually, there is another side to this coin, but that would bring in "God," and I think we have enough to chew on here).

2a.

Evil is ultimate selfishness, choices made against the backdrop of Death Terror...

3a. Yes, you were.

He certainly did not percieve himself as disempowered.

3b. The whole "Fuehrer" personality is a grossly exaggerated and distorted conception of masculinity as Hitler conceives it. Undoubtedly he would like to be such a person in reality and believes that he actually is that person - but he deceives himself. This personality shows all the ear-marks of a reaction formation which has been created unconsciously as a compensation [Page 134] and cover-up for deeplying [sic] tendencies which he despises. This mechanism is very frequently found in hysterics and always serves the purpose of denying the true self by creating an image which is diametrically opposite and then identifying with the image.
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:NyNjhjt_PRsJ:www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hitler-adolf/oss-papers/text/oss-profile-04-06.html+Hitler+insecure+compensation&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8

I don't find that site credible....who wrote that?

Originally posted by Alliance
I don't find that site credible....who wrote that?

I believe it was Konrad Heiden, a journalist/historian during the Nazi era and most famous for his Hitler biographies.

I believe...it was Kermit the Nazi Frog. 😐

thats easy... me

really?

Der schlechte Frosch!*

*The evil frog!

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
Where does evil come from?

I went to sunday school, and there were talking about evil as their topic. Found it very interesting.

They say evil comes from Free will.

What I mean is the god created us, and he gave us free will.

Since he gave us free will, some of us made some really bad choices which made evil.

The only way god could make evil go away is by giving up our free will. Then we would not be able to really love god, or anything else because love is a choice. Making someone do it is not love.

What do you think?

Since you asked,

"Even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting, who knowing the righteous judgement of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them."

Romans 1:28,32

We have been given the free will to choose. The problem is, we choose to do evil and therefore will suffer the consequences of that decision.

And having another faith would indicate evil?

Evil is good. You can't have good without evil so therefore evil is necessary. Without evil their would be no good, so evil is good.

Ass is good. Without ass none of you would be hear today, so therefore ass is good.

So in conclusion, Evil is good and Ass is good and if you get yourself a piece of Evil Ass...woooooooo!!!!!!!!

In Judaism and Christianity, evil refers to disobedience to God

ive always wondered this question. i mean its led to almost the undoing of the human race time and time again, its caused the slaughter of millions upon million of humans and animals, its caused millions of acres to be reduced to rubble (rainforests and the like). as much good as its done i think moneys caused double that in problems