They do if Psylock would slip up, which is something that would happen if she tried mind attacking them all. She isnt strong enough.
It would happen to anyone who is head strong, only a few types of people are able to be "suggested" to do things.
Like hypnotisim, only 70% or so can actually be hypnotized, some peolpes minds are just too strong.
Thats not the point, its still violence.
Originally posted by long pig
They do if Psylock would slip up, which is something that would happen if she tried mind attacking them all. She isnt strong enough.
It would happen to anyone who is head strong, only a few types of people are able to be "suggested" to do things.Like hypnotisim, only 70% or so can actually be hypnotized, some peolpes minds are just too strong.
Thats not the point, its still violence.
i said it already, she can do them simoultaneously, she doesnt have to do them all at the same time...
and no, nobody without training can spot a telepath...
and no, its not violence what psylocke is doing...
"i said it already, she can do them simoultaneously, she doesnt have to do them all at the same time..."
What the hell are you talking about? Simultaneous MEANS all at the same time.
Are you trying to say, mind attack them one at a time?
So they're going to stand there and wait their turn to be mind ****ed by some mutie? no.
""and no, nobody without training can spot a telepath...""
Yes, they can.
""and no, its not violence what psylocke is doing...""
If we use the same faulty logic that sleeping gas is violent, then mind-attack certianly is.
Originally posted by long pig
"i said it already, she can do them simoultaneously, she doesnt have to do them all at the same time..."
What the hell are you talking about? Simultaneous MEANS all at the same time.Are you trying to say, mind attack them one at a time?
So they're going to stand there and wait their turn to be mind ****ed by some mutie? no.""and no, nobody without training can spot a telepath...""
Yes, they can.""and no, its not violence what psylocke is doing...""
If we use the same faulty logic that sleeping gas is violent, then mind-attack certianly is.
she can do one small group, then another, then another, not difficult...
nobody without experience or training can spot a telepath, its not star wars...
its not a mental attack, its a calming effect...
Originally posted by pr1983
she can do one small group, then another, then another, not difficult...nobody without experience or training can spot a telepath, its not star wars...
its not a mental attack, its a calming effect...
So, theyd still have to wait in line, thats a unrealistic idea.
It's still violence, just violence thats not thought out and used in a way that wont work.
Any strong willed person can fight telepathy, maybe not successfully, but fight nonetheless.
All im saying is it's technically violence, and shouldnt be allowed.
But for some reason, it unfairly is.
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They do if Psylock would slip up, which is something that would happen if she tried mind attacking them all. She isnt strong enough.
It would happen to anyone who is head strong, only a few types of people are able to be "suggested" to do things.
Like hypnotisim, only 70% or so can actually be hypnotized, some peolpes minds are just too strong.
Thats not the point, its still violence.
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Originally posted by long pig
They do if Psylock would slip up, which is something that would happen if she tried mind attacking them all. She isnt strong enough.
It would happen to anyone who is head strong, only a few types of people are able to be "suggested" to do things.
Like hypnotisim, only 70% or so can actually be hypnotized, some peolpes minds are just too strong.
Thats not the point, its still violence.
i said it already, she can do them simoultaneously, she doesnt have to do them all at the same time...
and no, nobody without training can spot a telepath...
and no, its not violence what psylocke is doing...
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"i said it already, she can do them simoultaneously, she doesnt have to do them all at the same time..."
What the hell are you talking about? Simultaneous MEANS all at the same time.
Are you trying to say, mind attack them one at a time?
So they're going to stand there and wait their turn to be mind ****ed by some mutie? no.
""and no, nobody without training can spot a telepath...""
Yes, they can.
""and no, its not violence what psylocke is doing...""
If we use the same faulty logic that sleeping gas is violent, then mind-attack certianly is.
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Originally posted by long pig
"i said it already, she can do them simoultaneously, she doesnt have to do them all at the same time..."
What the hell are you talking about? Simultaneous MEANS all at the same time.
Are you trying to say, mind attack them one at a time?
So they're going to stand there and wait their turn to be mind ****ed by some mutie? no.
""and no, nobody without training can spot a telepath...""
Yes, they can.
""and no, its not violence what psylocke is doing...""
If we use the same faulty logic that sleeping gas is violent, then mind-attack certianly is.
she can do one small group, then another, then another, not difficult...
nobody without experience or training can spot a telepath, its not star wars...
its not a mental attack, its a calming effect...
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she can do one small group, then another, then another, not difficult...
nobody without experience or training can spot a telepath, its not star wars...
its not a mental attack, its a calming effect...
So, theyd still have to wait in line, thats a unrealistic idea.
It's still violence, just violence thats not thought out and used in a way that wont work.
Any strong willed person can fight telepathy, maybe not successfully, but fight nonetheless.
All im saying is it's technically violence, and shouldnt be allowed.
But for some reason, it unfairly is.
I'm done.
I'm not competing in a fixed game.
The bias being displayed in this 'competition' is so blatant I can't do this anymore. Every rule change and decision (which has come AFTER the onset of the event) has conveniently been directly or indirectly in the favor of the Good Guys, and starting a deathmatch with a handshake is just plain ridiculous. I've tried to just roll with the punches, but this latest bullsh*t about telepathically controlling a person's mind and free will not being a hostile act, when in the real world making someone do an action against there free will is the EPITOME of a hostile action, is ridiculous. According to the bullsh*t expressed in this thread, SLAVERY would not be considered a hostile act because though someone may be forced to do something against their free will, so long as you don't crack that whip, it's just 'friendly assisted labor' and not hostile, right?
Bullsh*t.
And then to say Nightcrawler and Beast can't use image inducers that they ALWAYS have on their person, but simply don't always use in combat is ridiculous. There are items in Batman's utility belt that he doesn't use in every comic book when he's in a conflict. Should we assume that since he doesn't use them in every outing they aren't at his disposal?
Please.
This has gone from petty to pathetic in 30 hours.
I'm out.
Continue this without me.
Originally posted by long pig
So, theyd still have to wait in line, thats a unrealistic idea.
It's still violence, just violence thats not thought out and used in a way that wont work.Any strong willed person can fight telepathy, maybe not successfully, but fight nonetheless.
All im saying is it's technically violence, and shouldnt be allowed.
But for some reason, it unfairly is.
Originally posted by long pig
Telepathy may not hurt them at all, neither would sleeping gas, and you said: "sleeping gas is violence". There is no difference between telepathy- induced calm and sleeping gas-induced calm.
gas can cause ill effects in some cases and even if it doesn't it can result in injuries by the victim of the gas falling onto something or someone...... they could crack their skulls open on the pavement...... is that what you want?..... 'cos that's what'll 'appen!
Originally posted by long pig
First, theres a difference in mind control and commercials, dont pretend to be stupid.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Scoob, come on now bruh. You and I both know you have 100% choice when it comes not only to observing advertisement, but also whether or not you allow it to sway your judgement.
of course there is a difference but ther are also similarities..... people see advertising everyday whether they want to or not..... it's everywhere..... subliminal learning is a proven technique, so who's to say the advert you didn't realise you saw today wont be a factor in your decision tomorrow?
Originally posted by laydiiplayette
C'mon good guys, I feel like I am arguing for you. Anyways, I don't see how persuading someone to do soemthing is violence.
i haven't been online....... and i'm only on for a few minutes now..... you'll get more quality arguments soon though 😄
Originally posted by long pig
But what exactly are the differences between low-powerful sleeping gas and high/medium powered telepathy? 😛
sleeping gas can result in physical injury (see above)
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
As a not so wise dude once posted as his sig. (😉) don't curse th darkness, light a cndle (Sorry, I don' remember whos this was, otherwise I'd say so, sorry dude. Mad props all the same 😄
the saying is it is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness
it's an old chinese saying....... i think the guy got it from an episode of Stargate....... that's where i heard it first 🙂
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
We have Beast and Night transform into a crazy beast and a ou child, respectively. Beast runs in, like he wants to attack everyone. He grabs the 'kid' and starts shaking him. Wolvy runs in all crazyand attacks the beast. the two skuffle for a while before Logan comes out on top. He helps the kid up and waves to the crowd. 'It's ok now. The threat is gone, folks.
VIOLENCE
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
It also sais: I'm a badass. F with me nd you won't walk away with legs tonight.
and the threat of VIOLENCE
Originally posted by stormfront13
yes, i think that if the goodies get the telepathy then the badasses should get both image inducers
but the telepathy is part of the character, image inducers are a "sometimes used" accessory
Originally posted by long pig
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""Originally posted by laydiiplayette
I would also like to comment that Scoobless is correct in that I did not state that only violence to the crowd was banned. It is a loophole.""Thats not a loophole, thats a play on words.
it isn't a "play on words" it;s the exact words.....
Originally posted by laydiiplayette
This first mission is an easy one. You must split into two separate teams. A and B. The A team must do battle with the opposing team's A team. The B team must calm down panicking citizen and riots, [B]non-violently. First state your team leaders, then state your A and B teams, then state your stategy. [/B]
Originally posted by stormfront13
yes the nightcrawler thing is very good. we could have someone like drop debris over a group and have nightcrawler save them. i bet they'd respect him then.
the threat of even MORE violence........... lol
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
and we already established that we take the duel.
that was never agreed upon
Originally posted by pr1983
sleeping gas should not be allowed, why? if you throw a grenade into the middle of a crowd and gas starts coming from it, people will panic even more...
excellent point....... inspiring all out fear has got to something the badassess consider violent....... they spent so much time expressing their distaste for altering the crowds mental state 😛
Originally posted by long pig
Sleeping gas is colorless, odorless and fast..hell its even considered enjoyable.
regardless........ if some guy throw a grenade looking thing at me, i'd be scared.... even if i couldn't see the gas
Originally posted by long pig
You cant say for sure can you? psylock is a low level telepath, stretching her small amount of ability aross such a large amount of people will make her loose concentration
we never said she'd use it on the whole crowd at once, just the worst ones first then maybe work down from there
i finally get through all the arguments and have my responses ready to post and find out some people are walking out and the round may be over?!?!?!?!......... damn
🙁
Well, the first round it over, whether you think I am biased or not, is your opinion. I am sorry Scoobless, but it does seem like the bad asses had the upperhand on the good guys in the battle, and the result of the crowd control can be debated for centuries. Anyways, there is little point to the mission except to establish strongest/weakest links. Now, I will give you 3 days to deliberate with your teammates on who you wish to send into the inferno from the opposing team. This inferno is boy's only. Have your team leader PM your decision to me. Until then, Sayonara, Au Revoir, Xia Jian.
I'm only gonna respond to your replies to my plan.
I belive that the rule was that we couldn't use aggresion/violence to stop the mob, but only directly. So my plan is legal, although, I am actually expecting it to be outlawed...
And if you really read my whole post, you would see that I did not say that anyone would actually SAY anything about chopping legs off. Don't try to pull the wull(SP?) over my eyes when I'm the one who shaved it. What I said was that it would instill respect in the mobbies. They would think that by themselves, no phsychic anything (sorry, Ladii 😉)
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Badasss took it 😄 On to the Inferno!!
"and the result of the crowd control can be debated for centuries."
By the way that Laydii worded it, it seems like she does not think that you won the riot challenge, but doesn't want to say that because she thinks that a badass will call her biased.