M.Bison versus Magneto

well in street fighter zero{the anime}, remember that kid who claimed to be ryu's brother, well anyway in that installment we find out that akuma was the first one to accept the wave of killing urge and it made him stronger, but his mind and body were not strong enough to handle that power{chunli said herself to ryu "if sum 1 as big as akuma cud not handle it, how can u[referring to ryu] ever hope to handle such power?}
, initially ryu cant handle the wave as well but by the end we see that he has enough will power to actually resist the wave itself{which was thought impossible} and in the special edition DVD, we see that in the end ryu actually defeats the akuma with the wave without the power of his own wave of killing urge{in the end ryu says to akuma after hes defeated him"ur path and my path r different" n then ryu walks away}, but at the very end of the movie, when that little kid is about to die, he reveals that hes not truly ryu's long lost brother but he had a mother who was killed by his father n then he explains that it was his father who put him upto spying on ryu, n then when ryu asks, he tells ryu that his father was a MASTER OF THE WAVE OF KILLING URGE, n then the credits roll. now later on we find that his father was actually bison{the storyline continues in street fighter alpha 2} n he was the master of the wave of killin urge{incidently the power of the wave of kilin urge was never known to be mastered by any1 other than bison who was strong enough mentally to control it} and that was the reason y that little kid also had a bit of that power. now even after ryu defeated akuma, still in his first face off against bison, hes nuthin, but by the end of the movies, he beats bison with the help of a few friends{guile, ken, honda, chun li} n finally before runnin away, bison reveals to him that he was keepin an eye on ryu cause he cud feel that the wave favoured ryu more than it favoured even him. so there u go. this storyline was well illustrated in the manga but in all its american incarnations of movies n comics, the whole street fighter world was completely changed{storyline etc}

Originally posted by leonheartmm
well in street fighter zero{the anime}, remember that kid who claimed to be ryu's brother, well anyway in that installment we find out that akuma was the first one to accept the wave of killing urge and it made him stronger, but his mind and body were not strong enough to handle that power{chunli said herself to ryu "if sum 1 as big as akuma cud not handle it, how can u[referring to ryu] ever hope to handle such power?}
, initially ryu cant handle the wave as well but by the end we see that he has enough will power to actually resist the wave itself{which was thought impossible} and in the special edition DVD, we see that in the end ryu actually defeats the akuma with the wave without the power of his own wave of killing urge{in the end ryu says to akuma after hes defeated him"ur path and my path r different" n then ryu walks away}, but at the very end of the movie, when that little kid is about to die, he reveals that hes not truly ryu's long lost brother but he had a mother who was killed by his father n then he explains that it was his father who put him upto spying on ryu, n then when ryu asks, he tells ryu that his father was a MASTER OF THE WAVE OF KILLING URGE, n then the credits roll. now later on we find that his father was actually bison{the storyline continues in street fighter alpha 2} n he was the master of the wave of killin urge{incidently the power of the wave of kilin urge was never known to be mastered by any1 other than bison who was strong enough mentally to control it} and that was the reason y that little kid also had a bit of that power. now even after ryu defeated akuma, still in his first face off against bison, hes nuthin, but by the end of the movies, he beats bison with the help of a few friends{guile, ken, honda, chun li} n finally before runnin away, bison reveals to him that he was keepin an eye on ryu cause he cud feel that the wave favoured ryu more than it favoured even him. so there u go. this storyline was well illustrated in the manga but in all its american incarnations of movies n comics, the whole street fighter world was completely changed{storyline etc}

Ryu was the first one to resist the wave of killing urge, unlike Akuma. Rose belived that Ryu is the one who can resit that (and she said if he overcome Dark Hadoue, he will beacome if more powerful than with Dark Hadou, so with wave he become more powerful than with wave of a killing urge), Ryu trully has resisted, and he became even more powerful with his will over Dark Hadou than he could have become with Dark Hadou, and that isn why he beat Akuma and unlike Akuma, Ryu is good. Street Fighter Alpha is the last movie from Street Fighter, I don't know where you get by the end of the movie, you ment Street FIghter Animated Movie wher he defet Bison with Ken, Ryu in Animated Movie wasn't close enough strong than in end of the Alpha. Akuma can easily handle Bison, and Ryu even easier. Is Street FIghter Alhpa 2 already out, I sent emeil to Manga and they said ti will come in June.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Magneto can still be pretty easily hurt, so with normal, logicall, he can be easly taken out by someone who has greater body thah himself.

Magneto wears body armor and has several layers of shielding, enough to take CL100 punches. Nothing Bison does to him is going to put him down.

now thas just stupid demigawd.

n i dont know where u got that thing with street fighter alpha2 not bein out{n im not sayin ur wrong, but keep in mind that these animes have a habit of havin different names for different regions of the world, }, i most certainly have seen the anime in which ryu defeats bison and bison tells him y he sent that lil kid after ryu.

I don't understand what you're saying or what you're trying to say has to do with my point that Magneto is able to take Class 100 punches. Was there a counter somewhere in there?

no what im sayin is that a bison punch is not a normal punch, its full of mystical power and i dont think that just physical barriers can stop it.

Full of mystical power? Immune to physical barriers??? Based on WHAT? Where anywhere does it say that Bison's power is magic?

um in just about every place {its not magic, but its mystic in nature}

No it's not...it's always been either psionic or technological. Even in the most obscure manga, it's lifeforce. Name one time when someone said anything about it being mystical.

no actually, in the obscure mangas, its never been psionic, it always was mystical, the wave is a mysical energy.

You said it's not magic, but mystic in nature...what's the difference between magical and mystical?

juggernaut is mysic in nature, but hes not magical, same goes for mephisto. magic is a part of mystical powers but mystical is not just confined to magical practices. mystical is anything without any logical source{unlike mutants who have explanations to their powers}

???

Juggernaut gets his powers from Cytorrak....a magical being.
Mephisto IS a magical being.

And if his power comes from an "unknown source", how can you know it defies all physical defenses when nothing is known about it?

magic is just a PRACTICE, n ART, to actually extract mystical energy, beings who already posess it{like mephisto} are not magical, they r mystic.

All of which is well and good...but the two, regardless of how you define them, are tied together. So again, where has Bison's energy been defined as magical or mystical? It's the Urge of Killing Wave or whatever in the manga....nothing magical or mystical about that. It's just some innate power. Where has it been shown to somehow ignore physical barriers?

uve gotta be joking , when the wave of killing urge takes over, rocks around the person start levitating, the person becomes superhumanly powerful, their eyes start glowing, sometimes large areas around the person and structures are destroyed by that energy.

So? Sounds like telekinesis to me. What's "physical law defying" about that?

u know what, this is hopeless, ill just shut up.

say it IS magical or mystical...so what? what says magneto can't handle it? say 1,000 david copperfeilds try and fight magneto (and mind you these guys are loaded with magic) who do you think is gonna win?

magneto sweeps this with ease.

I'm going to go by the source materials, which are the games themselves and their endings. Akuma is always stronger than Bison.
I still say that Mags takes this one.

Once again. Master of the Fist is always stronger than the Master of Darkness. Unless Capcom themselves claim different, thats the way it is.