Batman versus You

Oh and like Nigel45 said,
I could always just throw out a full on decoy attack to distract him(I doubt he can read my mind, unless you fanboys just decided he can do that too), Then, I'd swiftly kick him in the gonads at close distance while he was trying to decipher my decoy attack and counter. After that even the "great and powerful" Batman would be hurting and I'd just swiftly hit him in the throat, work over his solar plexes with my fists, and snap his arm, rendering him crippled in a fight that has turned to my favor, finally, I'd could just knock him out.

BTw. You'll probably, in classic fanboy temper-tantrum fashion reply with 100 reasons why that wouldn't work.

However, who cares!?!

Like I said, I actually do know a thing or two about streetfighting, I'm not some guy who just talks, I know what I'm talking about. Hell, I've done it. That whole "you don't know what you're talking about" thing doesn't work on me, man. It might work on some lame ass dude, but that ain't me.

Isn't a single hand ninja supposed to be able to take hundreds of armed FBI agents?

And if throwing a decoy attack worked even half the time they were used, every UFC PPV would be 20 minutes long and no professional fight would last past a minute.

I never said it can work all the time on everyone.
It depends on the user, the target, and the type of decoy attack.
Some people aren't that good at it.
They aren't that fast to catch the target even when the target falls into the trap.
Just so you know,a trap isn't when the target completely just gets suckered into being able to be helpless.
A trap, by my definition, is any time I can cause someone to make the slightest mistake like step in,throw their arm up to try and block a decoy/dummy punch, duck to avoid the decoy/dummy move, or comes in in an attempt to counter a decoy/dummy move which was meant for them to come in.
This is How I used to operate routinely when I fought, if I did come in with a real offense, I came in fast and with multiple moves/combos.
Come in too strong with one full force attack and get hurt, come in with fast combos and hurt your opponent.
It used to work for me.

You're assuming again.
It depends on the agents.

Originally posted by jplatinum
A trap, by my definition, is any time I can cause someone to make the slightest mistake like step in,throw their arm up to try and block a decoy/dummy punch, duck to avoid the decoy/dummy move, or comes in in an attempt to counter a decoy/dummy move which was meant for them to come in.
This is How I used to operate routinely when I fought, if I did come in with a real offense, I came in fast and with multiple moves/combos.
Come in too strong with one full force attack and get hurt, come in with fast combos and hurt your opponent.
It used to work for me.

And I'm not assuming. What on Earth would lead me to assume a character can take hundreds of FBI agents? It's what everybody who read the Wolverine and DD comics have been yamering on about when the hand comes up.

jplatinum: have you ever shattered steel or kicked down a tree? have you ever dodged a bullet? have you ever taken on mutiple highly trained opponents? have you ever mastered a single style, much less 127 of them?

YOU CAN'T DECOY BATMAN, FOOL!

I've punched and dented steel with ease.
Never shattered it cause I never really use my full hitting power, I hold back alot.
I've dented and put fist prints in solid refrigerators with one blow, I've dented steel, I've shattered concrete, I've had boards broken on me with no effect on me, I've been hit with beer bottles in the head(bleeding down my shirt when I whooped two dudes trying to rob me), I've been hit by a car going 30 mph and got right back up, I've fought multiple opponents at once(nowhere near 100), I've done alot.
I got no reason to lie, even if this is the internet.
I get no gratification if I lie.
So why would I?
I wouldn't.
If I said I did it I did it.

ok u bat fanboys, first u have to decide if this fight takes place in a comic or a book, is batman the character that can take on 100 ninjas with ease and dodge bullets easily or is he a human that has limitations, can lift 750 lbs, etc, and cant get up once his head has been knocked into solid concrete by a superhuman, cause all people are quotin here is BATMAN DID THIS N BATMAN DID THAT!, well guess what, most of those things can not be done by a human body so either batman can do those things and is superhuman or he CANT! and has only the abilites listed in his bio and is fightin in the real world. just pic one!

JP dude.....if you do all ths things...then proove it to us by posting something..and i know what others dont according to ur self , but then again other "mortals" which excludes u , dont boast about their metahuman abilities like urself....so until u provide me with some sort of visual evidence that u can actually dent steel and do all this crazy sh*t u say u can do.......i ahve no reason to believe that u r anything more then a 16-18 year old kid that wants attention.....i ahve profficient training in israeli krav maga.......and the things u r saying are complete ludacris...such as getting hit by a car and jumping afterwards.....

n just for your information people, denting steel and breaking concrete is NUTHING compared to knocking down a fully grown tree, plus steel is not a crystal that can be shattered, if its really hard, and less than an inch in width, then a really skilled fighter MIGHT penetrate through it, otherwise, no, its scientifically not possible in normal circumstances, denting it badly however is easier, plus, N LISTEN CAREFULLY TO THIS: there is NO MAN in the world that has truly MASTERED, even a single martial art, just like theres no man in the world that can be said to have TRULY MASTERED any field of science or maths or any subject, for 2 reasons, every field{or in this case martial art} is ever evolving and getting better and more complex, secondly it is BEYOND the capabilities of a human mind to even attain such vast knowledge in the lifetime of any man that has ever lived.

denting steel isnt that hard at all, as long as u know how to stop ur hand from bending inwards and breaking itself from the force of the impact.

I think their is a difference in approach between the pro-Batman and the pro-themselves camps. The pro-Batman camp has approached this like any other versus debate where in the persons involved have the skills and abilities the have displayed. The pro-themselves camp ont he other hand has decided to remove from the debate anything they deem humanly impossible or against the laws of science. Strangely it is this camp thathas spent a lot of this debate attesting to, what could be considered super human feats by themselves or others. It has been this camp that brought up the feats (or claimed feats*) of Bruce Lee and other who seem at times to defy science. Yet while they seem more then willing to apply it to themselves and other real world personalities. They find it seemingly impossible to apply it to Batman. The point is this either we have a debate based on observed and/or understood abilities demonstratedby the parties involved or we spend all of our time trying to figure out what is humanly possible for Batman to do

A couple more things none of the anti-Batman camp has been able to demonstrate why Batmans speed is not equal to the likes of Bruce Lee or other real world fighters.

* Bruce Lee's popularity rivals that of any charater and like any legend his feats are often exaggerated greatly. Be it his speed, power, or durability the stories of his abilities have grown over time. Remember he was a human. A great human with incredible skills and great mind. Who left a wonderfull gift to the world through his teachings and who is severly missed. But he was human none the less and he did lose and did have equals now and then.

of course he had equals nightstick, i never said that bruce lee was the greatest martial artist in the world, im sayin that he was RIGHT UP THERE WITH "SOME" OF THE BEST, ofcourse there are probably martial artists that we havent even heard of that are probably better than him, but my point was that there are infact HUMANS who are faster n stronger in certain things than even batman is OFFICIALLY supposed to be{from his bio etc}, so even though it is reasonable to assume that he probably will win against me or you, however it is ALSO REASONABLE TO ASSUME that we might also have atleast a significant chance of holding bac for a long time n if luck is on our side, even beating him, BUT it is NOT REASONABLE TO ASSUME, that batman is the ultimate peak of all human levels.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
ok u bat fanboys, first u have to decide if this fight takes place in a comic or a book, is batman the character that can take on 100 ninjas with ease and dodge bullets easily or is he a human that has limitations, can lift 750 lbs, etc, and cant get up once his head has been knocked into solid concrete by a superhuman, cause all people are quotin here is BATMAN DID THIS N BATMAN DID THAT!, well guess what, most of those things can not be done by a human body so either batman can do those things and is superhuman or he CANT! and has only the abilites listed in his bio and is fightin in the real world. just pic one!

if thats the case then every1 should atleast accept that bats is superhuman, n ofcourse if thas the case, then theres no point arguing about any HUMAN winnin against him.

No real world human anyway. Comic humans are usually just as bad as Batman. Look at Cap, Black Panther, Doom.

From the DD vs You and this thread you all knows that I practice martial arts since childhood and I'm not the last brawler of the world.
Now, we gotta face some facts, REAL facts:
My master, is 43 years old, the greatest feats of true hand to hand combat I've seen from him were:
1. During a tourneament, he fought with a guy that was 25 years, optimal physical condition, considerable skill, but not at my level, I can tell you that cause I'm one of the assistants of the master, and I'm black grade in JKD.Anyway, the guy fought with my master, who didn't even trained cause he wasn't going to fight in the tourneament, he PLAYED, he totally PLAYED with him for 2rounds, and he take some blows like they were landend from my grandma.Then during the 3rd, he avoid all, I mean ALL the hits from the guy, who's face looked like he was thinking: Where the hell is he?
Then, 2punches, 1kick, K.O.

2. In a club, we were doing a demonstration, and after that a bunch of guys between 20/25 years old, they were 9, starts to talk saying martial arts are crap things that people do to look cool, and when it comes to fight, they get their ass handed from anyone.
My master, laugh, and sayed:
Poor guys.
One of them who obviously understand a bit of english, sayed to his friends the master insulted them, they go all near him and started to shout their crap assumptions, the master sayed:
Why you all motha****as don't go back home?
One of them tried to land a blow and he got kicked and knocked up on the bar, then they all gang up against the master, and approximatly in 1minute, he used them to wipe the floor, it was an asskick action that leaved the people in the club with their mouths open.The master then catch his bag and tell us time to go home now.
Those guys when they met me in the club weeks later, told me to give their regards to the master and they looked like scared kitties.

Now, after the 2nd fact, the master wasn't even tired, I can tell you, that in real world, fist to fist in a street, if you possess that level of skill, Batman can be beaten down, maybe I'll give him a hell of fight, and nearly beat him, but I can tell you that my master, not to overrate him, can pummel him to death.

Originally posted by K3VIL

2. In a club, we were doing a demonstration, and after that a bunch of guys between 20/25 years old, they were 9, starts to talk saying martial arts are crap things that people do to look cool, and when it comes to fight, they get their ass handed from anyone.
My master, laugh, and sayed:
Poor guys.
One of them who obviously understand a bit of english, sayed to his friends the master insulted them, they go all near him and started to shout their crap assumptions, the master sayed:
Why you all motha****as don't go back home?
One of them tried to land a blow and he got kicked and knocked up on the bar, then they all gang up against the master, and approximatly in 1minute, he used them to wipe the floor, it was an asskick action that leaved the people in the club with their mouths open.The master then catch his bag and tell us time to go home now.
Those guys when they met me in the club weeks later, told me to give their regards to the master and they looked like scared kitties.

Wow...your master is awesome. That is like straight from a movie or something...

I have never know that people can really do these things. I studies Aikido for few years but I quit because I had other things...maybe I should start to practice martial arts too...

Kevil, your master is the shiz-nit.
He a bad dude.

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Oh and I never said I jumped back up to mean I spring up.
I meant to say I stood right back up.
Its true though, I stood back up and started to walk and the people around were coming over and telling me to lay down(Maybe they thought I was in shock I guess), My bike(which I was a bit younger at the time) was completely twisted/bent/wrecked, I went over to the sidewalk and casually sat down. I thanked God I wasn't hurt bad.
Its true though.

Never said anthing about springing up from the ground like a nut or some crazy stuff.
Dude, what are you talking about, man.

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