Originally posted by debbiejo
I also agree.If a woman yells at a man and no one hears, is he still wrong?
Now that's a more debatable forum. 😆
But getting back to the original question. I would have to say No. The only way you would know if a tree fell in the forest is if you saw its debris. However, you can see a tree falling from a distance without actually hearing it. So you don't have to hear the tree at all.
"Things do exist". However for humans to know it, they have to use their 5 senses, to imput it into their brains... If a tree falls, no humans around, therefore humans interpret the event to the proof they know, which is the tree never existed. For animals however, which saw it, knows that the tree exist, because they have all the proof they need.
It's just the same as where london doesn't exist, for those who never been there or heard of it?
Follow the teachings of your sig, peterKSL, 'cause you're confusing the issue. Just because a tree falls in the forest and no human is around to hear it doesn't mean it never existed. It could have been standing tall one day and down the next. The sound may not have been heard by human ears, but the object still exists regardless of no sound.
The question is: "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" and not "Does the tree fall when nobody observes?" peterKSL.
The perception of sound is the sense of hearing. Someone would have to hear it in order for it to be classified as sound.
And a parody 😉
If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
The Voices Reply:
Conscience: Wow... an old question. Also unanswerable...
Reaper: No it' s not.
Conscience: Um... yes it is. You are just saying the opposite of what I' m saying, aren' t you?
Reaper: No!
Conscience: Then what sound does it make?
Reaper: It goes "CRUNCH!"
Conscience: How do you know?
Reaper: A little bird told me.
Conscience: Real mature... I have that finger too, you know...
Reaper: Well I heard a tree fall! So I know!
Conscience: You can' t know. If a tree falls in the forest and someone is there, then that person knows what sound it made, and the question doesn' t apply. The question is that if no one is there, and no one is there to witness the falling, does it make a sound?
Reaper: Yes.
Conscience: Why?
Reaper: Because I have heard a tree fall. It makes a sound.
Conscience: AAAHHH!!!
Stinger: I have a message from the head. He says that he will remain neutral.
Conscience: You got a message from the brain? I didn' t know that you communicated with that as well...
Stinger: What does the brain have to do with anything? The message came from the head that our host thinks with.
Conscience: Did the Head' s actual message involve grunting?
Stinger: How did you know?
Conscience: GET ME OUT OF HERE!
actually i think that it was more a philosophical question than a scientific one.neway
if the screams of the dead fall upon deaf ears, does it mean that they dont scream?
as long as there is some conciousness involved{be it sum 1 listenin or the cause of the sound itself or even the so called conciousness of the universe} than the sound of a tree falling has meaning.
what i am getting is the activity of a tree falling that produces what we percieve to be sound is still occuring even though there is no device to pick up that stimuli does not mean that stimuli does not exist.
Like i said when you close your eyes it doesn't mean the world vanishes into a void just long enough to reapear when you open them back up.
its common sense
Colour doesn't truly exist, technically.
If you look at a white surface then cast a shadow on it, the shadowed area is no longer white. If you have a red, blue and green shirt in a closet, then turn all the lights off, they all become the same colour. Why? Because "colour" is only determined by what kinds of light that surface can take in.
On topic:
No, it doesn't make a sound. It can only become sound if we hear it, that's why it's called sound. If not, it's just random energy existing somewhere.
-AC
Originally posted by leonheartmm
things exist only in one's mind.
thats retarded. Thats the place were we decipher all the information we have picked up from the outside world, but the outside world is not dependant on the existants of minds. If every living organism was to die in one moment, the stars and planets and everything is space would still remain. They do not depend on living beings to exist. We are only aware of them because of our complex biological devices that can sense the world around us in its varios ways, smell, touch, taste, sight.