Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually Physics was one of my minor's in school. I know what I'm talking about.
Then I feel sorry for you.
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Any way, It seems that the majority of the forum has decided with me. We all know the truth. The JLA can beat Thor and Surfer. If thor was so good with magical lighting, he would have done it so many times before when absorbing man was kicking his ass. Or when gladiator beat the hell out of him and wonder man at the same time. Or how about the time juggernaut showed Thor a reall good ass whoopin.
Oh god. Gladiator has never beaten the crap out of Wonderman and Thor. He beat up wonderman and got pulverized by Thor.
Thor has beaten Absorbing man so many times it's not even funny, especially since Thor was trying not to kill him.
Juggernaut's cyttorak protection is what prevents Thor from hurting him, even the God-force had no effect.
No one on JLA has any thing that comes close to the Cyttorak protection. Superman is the toughest but we all know what lightning does to him. So he dies last.
Just stop it with the BS ur cranking out. Thor is a non factor in this battle as Wonder Woman could battle Thor for hours before either would fall.
She would be killed in an instant just as Beta Ray Bill killed Fenris with a single bolt of lightning leaving just a skeleton.
Leaving the rest of the Jla to pick the silver surfer apart. and the two best gl's ever would crack open surfers silver body suit and take nudy pics for the corps back home. [/B]
Oh grow up.
Originally posted by aliveinboston
Superman is the toughest of the lot and a single pansy lightning bolt made him cry like a baby and bleed. As for Thor's speed, he is quite fast, but it's irrelevant in this conversation as he wont be fighting them hand to hand.
Thor sure won't be fighting them hand to hand...he'll be Ko'd, mindraped, frozen, turned to a frog, etc...
Thor's lightning is inconsequential as my scans already proved.
Originally posted by aliveinboston
So now that you've said the GL Ring is equivalent to the Infinity Gauntlet it is apparent that not even the combined power of Eternity, Celestials, Chaos, Order, etc.... are enough to stop a single Green Lantern, let alone the JLA! 😆
I said it works by willpower. The ring can do anything..it's limitation is it's user. Take it up with DC. Either way, Thor is nowhere near the characters you mention, so it's not an issue. Don't try and skirt around it.
Originally posted by aliveinboston
Balancing a building is different from carrying it. I can barely balance a broom but thats not because the broom weights too much.
Either way that was weak.
Originally posted by aliveinboston
Creating storms out of nowhere is magic, not nature, and as such the power of that storm is determined by magic, not by nature.
Thor has mystical control of storms...the storms themselves aren't magical..and even if they were.... a magical storm from hell couldn't keep Supes down...
Originally posted by aliveinboston
The discussion on what is canon.
So then Superman beat down Thor by canon.. 🙂 Now with the rest of the league..it's murdaaaaaaa....
Originally posted by aliveinboston
Sure, while he was holding back and not using his most powerful attacks of the sort he used against enemies far more powerful.
Gee...and nobody from the JLA EVER holds back.... 🙄
Thor is inconsequential in this fight. Period. Sorry.
Originally posted by kgkg
and Superman Struggles with every JLA Member and Lex whats ur point?
He's also beaten them all quite easily but the subject is the whole JLA INCLUDING Superman.
What's your point?
Maybe you should concentrate on your boys posts saying that Thors lightning can take out Surfer as well...did you miss that?
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
No you dimwit.I used a low point to highlight the sillyness of lightning taking out Superman or most of the JLA AND Surfer.
it's like me showing Superman getting K.O and saying Superman is not durable
Originally posted by kgkg
So you are hoing to use low end showing ................ to prove that his lightning his not strong............ although i agree it's not K.Oing most JLA......... Still doesn't help you cause.it's like me showing Superman getting K.O and saying Superman is not durable
I'm simply playing devil's advocate on that one. For both JLA and Surfer.
Besides, you've used low end to highlight a point many a time my friend.
Originally posted by kgkgFlash is mainlined to the source of all k energy, and his access cannot to such cannot be stopped by SS or anyone, because of the 'mainline'.
GL won't since its energy will be absorb as shown in JLA/AvengerFlash uses K energy SS can stop that..........🙄
what is stoping SS stoping time...... before anyone there can think.
MM is fast, but he's always come across as slightly slower, but his attack on Surfer would be telepathic. Surfer would either have to fight off Manhunter, or fight off the physical and energy attacks, he couldn't do both at once. He can beat telepathy, but with a good struggle. He wouldn't have a chance to do that while two GL's and a couple of the heaviest hitters there is are coming at him.
One GL alone is a match for him...2 is locked at least 8/10 against him, add Wondy, Supes, Manhunter, Flash, and seriously it's a landslided fight.
Originally posted by TassadarMost of us agree that the JLA takes this. I simply disagree that it will be a cakewalk for the JLA. Most of the folks that support the 'JLA wins in a curbstomp' opinion seem to be ignoring the Silver Surfer's current powerlevels. He and Galactus just took on two Galactus-level beings! He's walked right through Herald-Level blasts and punches and destroyed a planet while standing on it. (Not to mention creating multiple surfboards to do his bidding). IMO, that kind of power makes him at least the equal of any two of the JLA's strongest, GLs included.
This went on for 42 pages? Why?
I'm not saying that the new Surfer can take the entire team suggested here, but he can put a hurting on a portion of them.
Originally posted by AcrosurgeJLA does that shit in random issues. That's the point. They're trained to do this. GL/Hal as a rookie was able to defeat Parallax/Hal, which is easily as impressive as anything you mentioned.. All of them[save Batman!] have done things just as if not far more impressive than what you just named, and solo and especially as a team. Surfer is not going to waltz through and lay down the JLA. That's why it's a curbstomp.
Most of us agree that the JLA takes this. I simply disagree that it will be a cakewalk for the JLA. Most of the folks that support the 'JLA wins in a curbstomp' opinion seem to be ignoring the Silver Surfer's current powerlevels. He and Galactus just took on two Galactus-level beings! He's walked right through Herald-Level blasts and punches and destroyed a planet while standing on it. (Not to mention creating multiple surfboards to do his bidding). IMO, that kind of power makes him at least the equal of any two of the JLA's strongest, GLs included.I'm not saying that the new Surfer can take the entire team suggested here, but he can put a hurting on a portion of them.
Originally posted by JuntaiThat's a two-way street Juntai, and you know it. 🙂
JLA does that shit in random issues. That's the point. They're trained to do this. GL/Hal as a rookie was able to defeat Parallax/Hal, which is easily as impressive as anything you mentioned.. All of them[save Batman!] have done things just as if not far more impressive than what you just named, and solo and especially as a team. Surfer is not going to waltz through and lay down the JLA. That's why it's a curbstomp.
If you're going to use extreme high-end feats to back JLA, then why wouldn't Thor enter Warrior Madness and start Godforce blasting left and right? Why wouldn't the Surfer open a black hole, destroying everyone but Supes and the GLs? Why wouldn't Surfer encase WW and MM in his board, walk through every GL construct, or create a dozen Surfboards to blitz the whole team at warp velocity? You know he's done this before.
I'm still not saying the Marvel duo takes this, just asking you to consider the implications of your latest rationale.
Originally posted by AcrosurgeI wasn't even mentioning highest end feats, you're saying Surfer is Uber, I'm saying, 6 of the other members are too, and you're nearly completely ignoring that. This team can survive and overcome pretty anything that team can put out, and with ease. Each of them has feats keeping pace with Surfer or Thor, and THERE IS SIX OF THEM.
That's a two-way street Juntai, and you know it. 🙂If you're going to use extreme high-end feats to back JLA, then why wouldn't Thor enter Warrior Madness and start Godforce blasting left and right? Why wouldn't the Surfer open a black hole, destroying everyone but Supes and the GLs? Why wouldn't Surfer encase WW and MM in his board, walk through every GL construct, or create a dozen Surfboards to blitz the whole team at warp velocity? You know he's done this before.
I'm still not saying the Marvel duo takes this, just asking you to consider the implications of your latest rationale.
You're mentioning high end feats.
I'm saying, JLA mops up shit like this frequently in random arcs.
Originally posted by MJOILNIRReally? He didn't take on Hal, Kyle, Supes, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter and Flash at once. To put it plain and simple, he couldn't if they were fighting to optimum, and bloodlusted, as forum rules. He simply doesn't have the abilities required.
What about DD? He didnt seem to have much trouble.
Superman usually ends up stopping DD one way or another.
Stopped him in Death of Superman.
Stopped him Hunter Prey.
Stopped him in Last Laugh.