Silver Surfer & Thor vs JLA

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Oh please. You keep trying to bring up one-off nonsense. What about invisible woman killing Exitar? We might as well have an invisible woman vs JLA thread dont you think? Should be a breeze for the one who killed Exitar.

I already assumed that Flash can dodge a single bolt of lightning. The problem for Flash (and one for which he has no solution) is that the ground is saturated with millions of lightning bolts and there is nowhere to run that there isn't any lightning.

Really? Much faster than light? Even in that non-canon cross-over you like to refer to he didnt seem to be able to dodge Thor, something that should be quite easy for someone who you claim has a huge combat speed advantage. In fact, he showed no speed advantage whatsoever.

Flash will have KOed him long before he summons lightning. He's many times faster than Thor, as seen in the scans on this thread, and can hit with the force of a star.

He didn't use it. . . . but he DID KO Thor in one shot once he got serious. Even called him a small god. 😉
Featwise, his speed is far superior in combat.

I"m must be missing something. When was lightning ever enough to take out a green lantern? Did I not see Wonder Woman take on the full Fury of an enraged zeus? Can superman withstand the force of a million nuclear blast? one lighting bolt doesn't have the force of a fraction of one nuclear blast. MM can simply phase or alter his density to withstand the attack. the flash is the flash. how bout vibrating so fast that he phases thru the lightning and tags thor. this fight would hinge on the silver surfer. and he's not messing with the combined might of two gl's and martain manhunter.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I"m must be missing something. When was lightning ever enough to take out a green lantern? Did I not see Wonder Woman take on the full Fury of an enraged zeus? Can superman withstand the force of a million nuclear blast? one lighting bolt doesn't have the force of a fraction of one nuclear blast. MM can simply phase or alter his density to withstand the attack. the flash is the flash. how bout vibrating so fast that he phases thru the lightning and tags thor. this fight would hinge on the silver surfer. and he's not messing with the combined might of two gl's and martain manhunter.

Individually both SS and Thor could take on anybody from the JLA and beat them to a Majority. But to fight a team i don't think so. JLA 8.5/10

Originally posted by joesha28
Individually both SS and Thor could take on anybody from the JLA and beat them to a Majority. But to fight a team i don't think so. JLA 8.5/10

I wouldn't even say they can beat them majority. either gl could beat surfer 50/50. they are the two best gl's ever. And any of the bricks have more than enough power to take thor on 1v1. Superman is the most vulnerable to magic against thor, and we knwo he beat thor handily. The crossover is cannon, so every one must except that fact. this same cross over shows wonder woman handing herculese his ass.

Well it is cannon in DC but not Marvel.

Originally posted by joesha28
Well it is cannon in DC but not Marvel.

Interesting. I could have sworn that that cross over was mentioned somewhere in marvel. i have to look that up.

The Cosmic Egg that was Krona made a re-appearance in the JLA's "Syndicate Rules" storyline, also by Busiek. There were initial plans to also follow up the story in Marvel's title, but these were shelved, perhaps due to the impending breakup of the Avengers and the subsequent launch of the New Avengers title; however, recent issues of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe do make reference to the crossover.

Str8 out of wikipedia

could be but marvel has yet to call it canon.

Originally posted by joesha28
could be but marvel has yet to call it canon.

it's in thier handbook, that is all the cannon I need.

Scans...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
it's in thier handbook, that is all the cannon I need.

Well if it is canon....Thor knocking Doomsday like a cupcake is cannon. Taking on powerhouses enemies of Supes WITHOUT Mjolnir is cannon.

dang this thread is like 20 deabtes in 1 action-laced topic

Originally posted by joesha28
Well if it is canon....Thor knocking Doomsday like a cupcake is cannon. Taking on powerhouses enemies of Supes WITHOUT Mjolnir is cannon.

In the DC universe, Thor would be amped up. The universes were comined. so it makes sense that thor would be much stronger in a combined universe.

If that's the case every tom, dick, harry wld be stronger in a combined universe. He took on their combined strength 😂

huh?

It just makes sense that sense magic is stronger in the DCU, Thor would be stronger if the universes were combined. I dont' doubt that Thor can give Doomsday a good battle. Doomsday probably never felt anything like that Hammer. So he wouldn't have adapted and thus would loose his first fight to thor.Probably many fights becuz thors hammer has so many properties. He would have to adapt to each and every way thor can kill him before he finally is unbeatable by thor. So yeah, the comic was right, it's cannon, thor could rock doomsday. NOt easily, but still, he would rock him.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
it's in thier handbook, that is all the cannon I need.

My understanding is that the Avengers/JLA crossover was canon in DC, but never made official in the Marvel. Therefore, it can only be granted the weight of the Lantern/Surfer or Darkseid/Galactus crossovers, IMO. Not useless, but far from conclusive proof.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
That's kinda scary. Marvel Handbooks have [B]never been known for their accuracy. And wikipedia even less so.

My understanding is that the Avengers/JLA crossover was canon in DC, but never made official in the Marvel. Therefore, it can only be granted the weight of the Lantern/Surfer or Darkseid/Galactus crossovers, IMO. Not useless, but far from conclusive proof. [/B]

Actually, the GL/Surfer crossover may be somewhat canon....at least for Cyborg and Parallax who mentioned it in their last battle.

Access from the Marvel vs DC crossover also appeared in a Green Lantern comic. Interesting, huh?