Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Are you talking about Magneto: Twisting of a Soul. Because that's the only one shot I can find. And it doesn't have these detailed explanations in them...
Magneto Twisting of a Soul? Not even familiar with that one. Unless you're referring to those Magneto #0 reprints, but no, that's not it. I'll dig around for it.
Originally posted by Juntai
Superman has made it to the sun and back, while fighting, in under two minutes[a feat that would take light 4 times the length, just to go one way.. half the distance.]. His acceleration in incredible. He's not just lightspeed bloodlusted, he's far faster than light speed bloodlusted.
He's acceleration rate might be incredible in that his speed increases by some incredible factor with each passing second, but it doesn't mean he can punch and kick at FTL speeds. And either way, it doesn't matter for reasons we've discussion ad nauseum.
Originally posted by Juntai
Anyways, it's been 39 pages of back and forth, and there's still only 1 vote for Magneto. I'll give you 2 guesses who, and the first don't count.
And still only 6 votes for Superman - the same numbers before I even started, lol. This is a merged thread - the poll was closed months ago. Good observation, though. 😉
FYI - I wasn't the one who voted. It was closed before then.
Originally posted by soleran30
I seriously doubt Magneto could keep up enough power to stop Superman......................speedblitz aside Magento might get in a shot or 2 but not enough to stop Superman and after Magneto gets tired (lol hell even before that) SM takes care of business anytime he wants to in this fight really.
Magneto only needs on shot...*boom* no more nervous system. 🙁
Question:
How is Superman 'faster than thought' when he has to think to move?
And if he's faster than average human thought, Magneto can assemble complex machinery with his mind and powers within a few seconds, so his 'speed of thought' is far above average.
I personally throw that argument out the window.
I'd take Magneto in a fight over Supes just like I'd take Surfer (easily) in a fight over Supes. It's not a matter of who's more powerful in as much as who has the tactical advantage. Supes powers are all based in what Magneto considers a plaything.
It's like a 200,000,000,000 (x100) ton strength Pinochio fighting a middle aged puppeteer with a flamethrower and a woodchipper (and forcefields).
Wood still burns.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
You guys have to stop comparing Mags to Norrin Radd. It's not good for Bussiness.Mags operates on a lower level than Norrin does. Mags does not have what it takes to take out Supes. He has the power to annoy him but that's it.
He doesn't need to operate at Surfer's level to win. His powerset is incompatible with Superman's continued existence, for all the reasons listed on previous pages...
Originally posted by demigawd
If by "annoy" you mean "drain dry" and "cause a stroke" and "drop into a red sun", then yeah I agree, lol.
LOL yeah your ..........................wrong SM heat vision alone is enough to melt Magneto even with a shield up as well as speedblitz and Magneto has zero chance............ What if MAgneto forms a shield so what SM is still far strnger then Mag's hopes to be so he simply flys magneto with his shield up to the sun.
"It's like a 200,000,000,000 (x100) ton strength Pinochio fighting a middle aged puppeteer with a flamethrower and a woodchipper (and forcefields).
Wood still burns."
Just thought I would add this is a craptastic example..............a man with a shield cannot stand the heat of the sun he still melts and SM can exceed the heat lvl of the Sun with his visioni so your logic places superman 4 the win YEAH>
Originally posted by soleran30
LOL yeah your ..........................wrong SM heat vision alone is enough to melt Magneto even with a shield up as well as speedblitz and Magneto has zero chance............ What if MAgneto forms a shield so what SM is still far strnger then Mag's hopes to be so he simply flys magneto with his shield up to the sun."It's like a 200,000,000,000 (x100) ton strength Pinochio fighting a middle aged puppeteer with a flamethrower and a woodchipper (and forcefields).
Wood still burns."
Just thought I would add this is a craptastic example..............a man with a shield cannot stand the heat of the sun he still melts and SM can exceed the heat lvl of the Sun with his visioni so your logic places superman 4 the win YEAH>
Guess you haven't read the thread. If you did, you'd know that:
1)Superman can't hold Magneto's shields and take him anywhere. He gets repelled on contact
2)Magneto's forcefield has no known upper limit and withstands any environmental change - the heat vision isn't doing anything
3)Superman is vulnerable to all the EM manipulations that is Magneto's specialty. And Superman is physiologically vulnerable, another specialty of Magneto.
Superman's got nothing, I'm afraid. 🙁
Now I'm really done with this thread. Any new people are just going to repeat what's already been addressed and likely countered....
Magneto is recking a city and Superman comes to the rescue.....who would win the man of steel or the man who can bend steel????
First post.............if you think I am going to read 40 pages to qualify things so people can edge up Magneto then your right..............also Heat destroys magnets it destroys any sort of polarity that causes attraction in molecules and this is a HUGE reason why mags should lose..............so awesome stop posting silly magneto can win plots🙂
Oh and even if MAgentos shield can survive any sort of envirmoent he has a limited amount of atmosphere he can store in his shield so he dies not from exposure but suffocates......................sad sad for marvel day🙁
wow i came into this thread and read it begging to end and i thought for sure Supes would win this easy but i've changed my mind Demi has convinced me (probably in the middle of the thread) that Magneto would win easy and now i'm an admitted Supes fan but damn some of you take it too levels beyond stanism i thought Kobe Bryant stans were annoying
Originally posted by Da Shell BulletYou want to buy some Ocean front property in Utah?
wow i came into this thread and read it begging to end and i thought for sure Supes would win this easy but i've changed my mind Demi has convinced me (probably in the middle of the thread) that Magneto would win easy and now i'm an admitted Supes fan but damn some of you take it too levels beyond stanism i thought Kobe Bryant stans were annoying
Originally posted by demigawdThat remains to be seen... you're only rebuttal of him being hit/moved when his shield was up was that it wasn't his shield because it was drawn differently. A forcefield isn't always shown as a spherical bubble. His forcefield hasn't always been shown as a spherical bubble.
Guess you haven't read the thread. If you did, you'd know that:1)Superman can't hold Magneto's shields and take him anywhere. He gets repelled on contact
Originally posted by demigawdAre you saying if he flew into the sun with his shield up he'd be fine?
2)Magneto's forcefield has no known upper limit and withstands any environmental change - the heat vision isn't doing anything
Originally posted by demigawdThat assumes Superman has a human physiology... 🤨
And Superman is physiologically vulnerable, another specialty of Magneto.
lol. heat destroyes magnetism?! u dont know much about physics DO YOU, high heating demagnetizes MAGNETS "NOT" magnetiSM. magnetiusm is a FORCE, and can not be affected by heat or anything else. a magnetic field induced over a magnetizable matrial like iron cause a change in the position of the free electrons present so that thair poles point in one direction alone and all of THEIR random magnetic pull is harnessed in one location and thus the material becomes a MAGNET, ON heatin the electrons gain enough energy to move randomly again and the force harnessed is evenly distributed as before, THAS how heat demagnetizes MAGNETIC "MATERIAL" it does nuthin watsoever to magnetic FORCE, infact extremely strong magets from electronic power of over 100 kilowatts can easily influence even non metallic or non magnetizeable material they can lift frogs, chairs, even people into the air with ease. n magneto's magnetic power ALONE works no a planetary level, supes's heat will have no power over it, and also, if magneto were to fly in the sun's or even in a supernova's core he cud easily survive as he has power over all forces and could easily frotect himself from ELECTRO MAGNETIC radiation, with his magnetic shield. ofcourse due to plot hell aways be sure to have a problem resisting cause they dont wannna show magneto on the same level as surfer but thas just plot. i mean DARK PHEONIX said that his shield was stretching her to a LIMIT that she did not know, im SURE everyone here agrees that dark pheonix was much MUCH more powerful than the core of a supernova. magneto wins, n yea, he can transmute matter so even in space he can easily turn all the breathed out carbondioxide to oxygen for breathing again.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Question:How is Superman 'faster than thought' when he has to think to move?
And if he's faster than average human thought, Magneto can assemble complex machinery with his mind and powers within a few seconds, so his 'speed of thought' is far above average.
I personally throw that argument out the window.
Perhaps it is because he is far faster than human thought?
By your rationale, no character would think faster than a human.
Mags is absolutely standing still frozen in time compared to Superman speed.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Question:How is Superman 'faster than thought' when he has to think to move?
And if he's faster than average human thought, Magneto can assemble complex machinery with his mind and powers within a few seconds, so his 'speed of thought' is far above average.
I personally throw that argument out the window.
Superman, the Flash, Silver Surfer and any other character with super speed can think, move, and react at mach speed or better (700 mph). Human thought according to this forum is 30 m/s (67 mph). Its a valid argument.
human thought is 30m/sec?! WTF?!!!! how can u quantify THOUGHT?! each thought is different, it is carried by electrical impulses that travel at unbelieveable fast speeds. still no1 can QUANTIFY the speed of even reflexes let alone thought, one could make the argument that superman travels at near lightspeed n his electrical brain impulses travel at many many times the speed of light{as this would be needed to cope with the hear or at lighspeed physical actions of supes. either way, its a stupid argument, even more so than the speed blitz.