Magneto vs Superman

Started by Prep-Man80 pages

Superman ftm.

Originally posted by 753
I think he actualy manipulated proteus's energy matrix directly with that one.

Correct I'm withdrawing my red sunlight plus krpt argument. However it does prove that Mags could affect Supes Em absorption and weaken him.

Originally posted by 753
I agree with the rest of your post though and yes, that bullet was almost planet-sized, it was moving much, much faster than light and it was a crap load of lightyears away. Magneto pulled it back in a a day and that thing left the solar system within minutes after phasing throught earth and was getting exponentially faster and was travelling for months.

Thats hardcore and he's blocking Emmas TP.

Originally posted by 753
I think he actualy manipulated proteus's energy matrix directly with that one.

I agree with the rest of your post though and yes, that bullet was almost planet-sized, it was moving much, much faster than light and it was a crap load of lightyears away. Magneto pulled it back in a a day and that thing left the solar system within minutes after phasing throught earth and was getting exponentially faster and was travelling for months.

Yeah it was faster then light most definitely. The bullets dimensions were given in Astonishing X-Men or S.W.O.R.D. I remember them saying something about being a mile wide or big or something.
However he didn't just pluck it out of space. When he was with the HE earlier on in Fractions run he memorised the unique properties of the metal. So that's how he was able to locate it.

Originally posted by Deadline
He was able to create radiation to beat Proteus. Proteus has vast psionic powers and can warp reality, he was dying when he did it. He can clearly do more complicated tasks when fully fit.

It is an impressive feat but...in the context of the arc Proteus weakened itself by gaining multiple hosts.

Magneto blows Superman up.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

It is an impressive feat but...in the context of the arc Proteus weakened itself by gaining multiple hosts.

How weak was he? Not sure if it changes anything since Mags was dying.

Originally posted by illadelph12
It was in one of the Man of Steel books, iirc. Man of Steel #1 or #2. In the Golden and Silver age I believe it was Lois who wrote the article about Superman, but in the modern post crisis era, if memory serves, I believe it was retconned that Superman actually wrote the article about himself as Clark Kent to give himself a big story for his debut at the Planet (which pissed Lois off because she was top dog reporter).

*edit

And I'm not, for one, suggesting Magneto could make Kryptonite or Red sunlight on a whim (which would be ridiculous), I simply stated that given the general knowledge of DC Earth, pretty much everyone knows that Supes gets his powers from sunlight and that he's a Kryptonian, which in turn would mean Magneto knows that Superman's powers come from an EM energy source (the sun). The criminal element of DC Earth (Supervillains, Intergang, etc) would know about kryptonite and red sun, but their numbers don't constitute enough of the populace to contend it's common knowledge of the general populace, just general knowledge of the criminal community.

ill look for the comic.

i wasn't suggesting you personally were.

but they don't know about red sun. it's actually a select number of people that know about red sun. most villains don't even know about it.

Even if can't create red sunlight or kryptonite he can clearly do something to em energy that will be bad news for supes.

Originally posted by Deadline
Even if can't create red sunlight or kryptonite he can clearly do something to em energy that will be bad news for supes.

of course. but with superman not having an aura anymore, it's going to be harder for magneto to hurt him.

for me, the outcome of the battle really hinges on whether Magneto knows about Superman's red sun weakness of not.

Originally posted by Starscream M
for me, the outcome of the battle really hinges on whether Magneto knows about Superman's red sun weakness of not.

He doesnt because its not common knowledge. And the Marvel characters wouldnt even know how to duplicate it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
of course. but with superman not having an aura anymore, it's going to be harder for magneto to hurt him.

Not sure what you mean by that but he still absorbs yellow sunlight right? Doesn't everyone have an 'aura'?

Originally posted by Starscream M
for me, the outcome of the battle really hinges on whether Magneto knows about Superman's red sun weakness of not.

He doesn't need to, he has other options.

Originally posted by Deadline

He doesn't need to, he has other options.
such as?

Originally posted by Deadline
Not sure what you mean by that but he still absorbs yellow sunlight right? Doesn't everyone have an 'aura'?

He doesn't need to, he has other options.

superman used to have a bio-electric aura around him that was part of his powers and durability; he doesn't have it anymore.

shutting off superman's access to the sun has been tried, and more often than not it failed (even when done by Polaris).

Originally posted by -Pr-
superman used to have a bio-electric aura around him that was part of his powers and durability; he doesn't have it anymore.

shutting off superman's access to the sun has been tried, and more often than not it failed (even when done by Polaris).

Let me know when you're ready to start operation x3-purge/2011.

evilgrin

Originally posted by Badabing
Let me know when you're ready to start operation x3-purge/2011.

evilgrin

as soon as i get a sig like yours.

Originally posted by -Pr-
superman used to have a bio-electric aura around him that was part of his powers and durability; he doesn't have it anymore.

shutting off superman's access to the sun has been tried, and more often than not it failed (even when done by Polaris).

didn't the bio-electric aura used to explain part of his invulnerability and why his costume doesn't rip...

did his invulnerability change?

Originally posted by Starscream M
didn't the bio-electric aura used to explain part of his invulnerability and why his costume doesn't rip...

did his invulnerability change?

it did.

yes. it's been pretty much done away with. he's just that tough physically from now on.

ok. how was the change explained...just curious

Originally posted by Starscream M
such as?

anti-sunlight.

Originally posted by -Pr-
superman used to have a bio-electric aura around him that was part of his powers and durability; he doesn't have it anymore.

Still not sure if that really makes that much difference.

Originally posted by -Pr-

shutting off superman's access to the sun has been tried, and more often than not it failed (even when done by Polaris).

He doesn't need to do just that. Mags can clearly see that Superman absorbs yellow sunlight and its good for him. Mags cans change and manipulate em energy therefore he could change yellow sunlight into something like anti-sunlight. This would probably involve in 'reversing' the properties of yellow sunlight.

Originally posted by Deadline
anti-sunlight.

Still not sure if that really makes that much difference.

He doesn't need to do just that. Mags can clearly see that Superman absorbs yellow sunlight and its good for him. Mags cans change and manipulate em energy therefore he could change yellow sunlight into something like anti-sunlight. This would probably involve in 'reversing' the properties of yellow sunlight.

anti-sunlight has been tried; it didn't work.

it does, as it was the reason a lot of people could screw with his powers before.

again, that wouldn't work.