Child pornography

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If I'm horny and I jerk off, I'm not horny anymore.

for how long? an hour? seriously
its a temporary release and in the long run, not substantial

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I never said if you masturbate it removes will to have sex for life, way to blow things out of proportion.

not out of proportion at all. a peadophile wants to have sex with a child. the only thing stopping them is the concequences, and perhaps a remaining shred of morals. however, wouldnt those morals erode through constant rewarding of that urge through porn?

either way, the porn doesnt matter. at best it will delay, but not prevent.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's entirely possible for someone to be attracted to watching something, not neccessarily being a part of it. I know females who say they get turned on by watching rape scenes in movies (which from a psychological standpoint is semi-understandable) but they don't walk out the door hoping they get raped. -AC

i have heard of this too. but its (from my understanding) a forceful initiation of sex, not forceful entry. (i tried to wrap my brain around this many times, but can never understand...but maybe thats a good thing, right?) the scenario being: she WANTS to have sex with him but for whatever reason refuses, and he refuses to accept the 'no' and persists in groping her until she finally lets go of whatever inhabition she was holding on to. in court that might stand up as rape with a good lawyer, but in a romance novel...thats different i suppose. but lets stick to the true meaning of 'rape' which is forced sex with the victim having no attraction to the victimiser at the time of the rape.

edit: hmmmm do i smell 'new topic'? 😕

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Dealt with. Was just poor explanation on my part, apologies.

i just looked out my window, and apparently pigs are flying 😂

oops, double post

Originally posted by PVS
for how long? an hour? seriously

Why do you continually misunderstand me? Read my posts again, see what my point is and we can discuss further.

Originally posted by PVS
not out of proportion at all. a peadophile wants to have sex with a child. the only thing stopping them is the concequences, and perhaps a remaining shred of morals. however, wouldnt those morals erode through constant rewarding of that urge through porn?

either way, the porn doesnt matter. at best it will delay, but not prevent.

No, a paedophile by definition has an attraction. Someone who watched child porn may by definition be a paedophile, they may also just be attracted to watching the children. Let's not go wild here.

Consequences are stopping them, exactly. Those are some pretty big consequences that stop alot of people. If we could factually tally everyone attracted to child porn and every one who has committed a sexual act I'm sure the former would be greater.

Originally posted by PVS
i have heard of this too. but its (from my understanding) a forceful initiation of sex, not forceful entry. (i tried to wrap my brain around this many times, but can never understand...but maybe thats a good thing, right?) the scenario being: she WANTS to have sex with him but for whatever reason refuses, and he refuses to accept the 'no' and persists in groping her until she finally lets go of whatever inhabition she was holding on to. in court that would stand up as rape, but in a romance novel...thats different i suppose. but lets stick to the true meaning of 'rape' which is forced sex with the victim having no attraction to the victimiser

Yeah I understand. I don't think we need to drag this off, we both understand each other I think, even if we disagree.

My main point is, if someone just has a degree of paedophilia that stops at attraction, surely it's much better for them to continually get the urge out through masturbating to it than doing it themselves.

-AC

AC - you do know that a great deal of child porn isn't children having sex with each other right? It can be children on their own, children with other children, and often children with adults. In each case the children are being victimized. I get the sense when reading your posts that you don't get the heinous way these kids are being treated and getting screwed up in all of this.

Originally posted by PVS
not out of proportion at all. a peadophile wants to have sex with a child. the only thing stopping them is the concequences, and perhaps a remaining shred of morals. however, wouldnt those morals erode through constant rewarding of that urge through porn?

either way, the porn doesnt matter. at best it will delay, but not prevent.

I dunno... What is a paedophile? Somebody who looks at child porn. However, if every one of those people (say on the sex offenders list in Britain), who was a paedophile, actually abused children, they'd be in prison for a much longer time, not just for looking at it.

i'm not misunderstanding you AC. i just refuse to accept your dodgy swiss cheese theory on paedophiles being under control thanks to kiddie porn. from this point on we are just dancing in a big circle

I never said they were under control, I said that definition paedophiles might stay that way if they use kiddie porn. Which isn't outlandish.

-AC

But it seems that you are accepting the "making" of kiddy porn, or at least reasoning a justification for it. And I find that disturbing.

Originally posted by Cosmic_Beings
I was just surfing the web for porn, and I accidentally came upon a site full of child pornography. Should I report it to the fbi?

I would.JM 🙁

I don't think AC is advocating paedophilia at all.

He's simply stating that paedophiles stay paedophiles because of kiddy porn.

Of course, it opens up the question that if there was no kiddy porn available, would they still be attracted to children?

Originally posted by Trickster
He's simply stating that paedophiles stay paedophiles because of kiddy porn.

well you need to review his posts again. niether he nor i would agree with what you said

I read 'em all, and I thought that is what he was trying to say.

I didn't say I agree with it, but I thought he was saying that paedophiles don't go and abuse children because they have kiddy porn to watch.

That's what I meant by my post - I meant paedophiles stay at their computers to watch porn rather than becoming child abusers.

Originally posted by Clovie
not to mention: why were you looking for porn anyway? 🙁

What else is the internet used for?

Originally posted by Trickster
I read 'em all, and I thought that is what he was trying to say.

I didn't say I agree with it, but I thought he was saying that paedophiles don't go and abuse children because they have kiddy porn to watch.

That's what I meant by my post - I meant paedophiles stay at their computers to watch porn rather than becoming child abusers.

And by that logic does porn on the internet keep hetrosexual males from engaging in sex with women? Although porn is an outlet for sexual urges, porn is not a substitue for sex.

Trickster, missed what I said by about a mile buddy.

Not Kharma, I'm not condoning Kiddie Porn. Read the first post I made.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I never said they were under control, I said that definition paedophiles might stay that way if they use kiddie porn. Which isn't outlandish.

-AC

Just coming in. If this was already done, sorry.

Anyhoo. I completely disagree. Nearly every study done by reputable and reliable experts have found that "kiddy porn" actually INCREASES a pedophile's prediliction to abuse children. It doesn't decrease. Eventually through masturbation, the pedophile will become disatsfied with the "kiddy porn" and will eventually pursue the real thing. Every convicted pedophile in America has followed the same pattern.

Unfortunately, "kiddy porn" often shows children in vulnerable states at deserted locations. Some even have instructions and tips. The pedophiles will begin lusting for the real thing. Masturbation isn't going to solve it. It never has.

In fact with the rise of kiddy porn on the Internet, there has been statistical evidence for an alarming rise in child abuse.

I think it's not good if paedos view it, it probably will only fuel their gross sexual desire for kids.

a couple of our cops just got done for kiddie porn...lol..silly old men

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
I would.JM 🙁

You would also buy magic beans from a travelling salesman. You suck.