ROTS Anakin & Darth Sidious vs. Tulak Hord & Marka Ragnos

Started by Fishy7 pages

Yeah it doesn't, not if you give the rights to the story's away and let other people write and publish things about it too. If you wanted to make your chars all powerful at least give a damn good reason with a damn good explanation. That for some reason i havn't seen yet... Probably because he either hasn't thought of it yet, or just never will.

Besides if you change your statements every time you feel like it, it hardly means anything anymore.

i never changed my statement, i said from the beginning that anakin was most pwerful until luke. always.

and u can surely give away rights,but if after the fact, u give them away, and then say hes more powerful....it overpowers. he didnt give away the rights to Star Wars....just to write new stories.

they cant change what the creator said.

Also a quote from Starwars.com

A child born of prophecy, possibly conceived by the will of the Force itself, Anakin Skywalker has left an indelible mark on the history of the galaxy, leading it through periods of lightness and dark.

POSSIBLY

Originally posted by jackstain
i never changed my statement, i said from the beginning that anakin was most pwerful until luke. always.

and u can surely give away rights,but if after the fact, u give them away, and then say hes more powerful....it overpowers. he didnt give away the rights to Star Wars....just to write new stories.

they cant change what the creator said.

No they can't, but he apparantly can and he does... When you or somebody else first told me about that quote however it said that Anakin was the most powerful ever. Not the most powerful until Luke came along. What is it?

NOOOOOOO

i was the first one to say it, and i clearly stated that anakin is most powerful until luke comes along.

thank you.

and just give up already, ur wrong.

You know what fine, lets just give up on logic and just always go with Anakin and Luke cause they can not be defeated... Sure why the hell not

"However, George Lucas states that after all of his limbs were severed and he was extremely burned on Mustafar he lost much of his Force potential. Lucas claims that as Darth Vader, Anakin had roughly 80% the strength of the Emperor. Had he sustained none of his injuries on Mustafar he would have been twice as powerful."

There's the statement Nefarus has been saying. As Mecha-Vader, he's capable of rolling with 80% of the Emperor's power; as human Vader, he has a potential of being between 160-200% of Palpatine's power. The key words and phrases here are potential and would have been, which means Anakin is not the most powerful ever, but might have been. Saying he isn't Mecha-Vader in RotS is no argument either; clearly Anakin isn't operating at full potential at that point, and there's no evidence he became weaker as Mecha-Vader, just no longer as potentially strong.

Sweet 😄 that also says nothing about him being more powerful then anybody from the SW history..

Wonder about how they will react to that though. It says absolutly nothing about Anakin being able to beat everybody... So do you two still stick by your points that Anakin and Sidious kill Tulak and Ragnos, even when GL's word is no longer on your side?

Technically, they're half right. Had Anakin not sustained the injuries he did, over time, he would've realized his potential power of 160-200% of Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine's. That very well could allow Vader to tangle with those like Marka Ragnos, Naga Sadow, etc., because we really don't know how strong they are compared to the Emperor if we go by percentiles. Is Marka Ragnos 180% or 300% of Palpatine? We really don't know, so who is to say?

But the fact remains that Vader never becomes more powerful than Palpatine, so technically Palpatine is the most powerful Force user in the galaxy at the time of the movies (I dunno, Yoda might match him), but we already know there are stronger Sith Lords than Palpy, so.

Yeah, but it says nothing about the rest of the time. So it means Tulak can be more powerful, Revan can be more powerful Exar can be more powerful. Hell even Random Jedi #3 can be more powerful...

That quote basicly means that people will actually have to come up with a good reason for Vader, Luke and Palp to win instead of the normal "Chosen one" or "GL said so" crap

also jack, I noticed that you said that Luke surpassed him (personally I agree), but by your logic, nobody could have surpassed Anakin, after all, he was made by the force. Luke wasn't, he is simply the grandson of the force, not its son, thus the power would be diluted a bit.

And about Vader being more powerful and always winning, might I ask what was more powerful, the death star or an X-Wing. The death star, it can blow up a planet and the second version blows up capital ships like nothing. The X-Wing can blow up TIE fighters (which are ALOT weake than a MC-80 or a planet), yet when the two of them went head to head, the X-Wing beat the mighty death star, with one shot. By all rights, the death star should have won, the empire thought it was the most powerful thing ever. Now heres the parallel, Anakin thinks he is the most powerful thing ever (he COULD have been, I'll give you that), but he can still loose, like the death star did.

I missed some good points. As usual, Fishy and Wanderer carrying on the cause. The fight for logic. Bless you both.

im ending this whole argument right now f*ckers

im calling in the authorities..

sarcasm *ok guys, jack told us to end, we better all bow to that, espically with the great arguements he has put forth for his side*

oh and Janus, I'm wounded, didn't I fight for logic and carry on the cause as well *goes off in a corner and crys*

Hm, you did. Oops. *Gives Darkstar his credit.* Our numbers are growing, my logical brethren. Let us take the world by storm. I get to wear the black cape this time!

No i get to wear it

If you get the big black cape, I get the fancy black robes then.

Deal, but i want the purple lightsaber...

What are we talking about again?

I dunno, but we won.

If you get the black cape AND the purple lightsaber, I get the Star Forge robes. Otherwise you're just being greedy.

Okay deal