Originally posted by Mider
Um you guys do know that Nate Gray fought Galactus. Galactus said He would eventaully win but it would take YEARS of them fighting so He just left.
And? Show me one time where Nate Grey showed the ability to damage SS. Cable broke SS's board with much effort, then got his arm blown off. Nate Grey had a hard time when facing the FF.
Yea, NG is REALLY going to be a match for SS, who's thrown down with WAY more enemies, who are WAY more dangerous. He's beaten two eternals (Champion and the gun guy) outwitted Ego, survived with his body in multiple pieces, survived at the core of the earth, and much much more.
Originally posted by Mider
I dont need to show you anything SS has a FRACTION of Galactus powers if Nate Gray can take on Galactus head to head power to power what the hell is SS gonna do to Him.
Slam into him at lightspeed and tear in him two?
Do like he did to Cable?
Blast him into oblivion?
Just because Galactus SAID something, doesn't make it true. Thanos knocked Galactus with a blast before, Surfer could've easily defeated Galactus when he swallowed the Eternals. You talk like having a fraction of Galactus' power doesn't mean he can beat Nate Grey. YEARS is a VERY long time, and Nate Grey doesn't have YEARS. He's not fast enough to beat Surfer, he's not resiliant enough to damage to beat Surfer, end of story.
Now Galactus is a lier uh huh your so full of crap end of story for you you cant handle one of your Fanboy icons losing at all just like when you thought that Swampthing would lose to SS Swampthing has the power to go through The Source Wall, Galactus doesnt have any reason to lie unlike you and Nate Gray even defeated Thanos, Thanos beat SS to death.
Originally posted by Mider
Now Galactus is a lier uh huh your so full of crap end of story for you you cant handle one of your Fanboy icons losing at all just like when you thought that Swampthing would lose to SS Swampthing has the power to go through The Source Wall, Galactus doesnt have any reason to lie unlike you and Nate Gray even defeated Thanos, Thanos beat SS to death.
Fanboy icons? Because I can show ways SS can beat Nate's ass six ways to sunday I'm a fanboy? Right...
Name ONE thing Nate can do to Surfer. C'mon, you can do it... oh wait, no you can't.
Get off your ass and go bring back the ST vs SS thread, read exactly what I said which goes along these lines; "There is no way of telling who could win, neither seems to have the ability to beat the other"
Let's see Issue numbers where NG beat Thanos.
Even if he did, NG, Thanos and SS are completely different characters. SS is WAY faster than Thanos, and that is why he wins this fight, not because he's stronger. If you didn't think in only two dimensions then you would realize this. Go away and learn yourself something about comic books.
Originally posted by Mider
Get off my ass get off your brain and use it its been stuck up your ass way to long.
What? No way for Nate to beat Surfer?
Exactly. There is nothing for Nate to do to Surfer, so you just insult me. At least post something and add an insult, they are supposed to be like a side dish, you get one with the meal, but it's optional.
Originally posted by Mider
Learn how to research first you apprently dont know anythinga bout the Characters Thanos is simply a better fighter, smater, stronger, more durable then SS, and Swampthing is just way to powerful and speed Galactus has amazing speed as well.
Research? What did you say that I didn't say?
Since when is Galactus fast in combat? He just looks at shit and obliterates it.
Still nothing on how NG can beat SS.
Galactus gave SS His powers He can go as fast or faster He just doesnt but its listed as one of His powers, stop dealing in assumptions and deal in facts Galactus gave SS His powers If Galactus wanted to He could oblitorate SS and if Nate Gray can put up a fight to Galactus that Galactus could not win for years what can SS possibly do to win any faster X-man can always just enter SS mind and take controll for all He cares i mean get over it someone put Gog again Lobo i know for a fact that with out Lobo's weapons He would be toasted against Gog even with His immortality i had to deal with that why dont you deal with the fact that SS is not invincible.
And? Show me one time where Nate Grey showed the ability to damage SS. Cable broke SS's board with much effort, then got his arm blown off. Nate Grey had a hard time when facing the FF.
he didnt break it with much effort dumass, nate is more powerful than cable, cable is BASICALLY A GOOD GUY, he didnt wanna fight and didnt wanna kil surfer, he BROKE his board{which is CONFIRMED BEYOND ARGUMENT} to be as indestructable as himself, not more not less, it doesnt mater if surfere can remake the board, what matters is its strength, if the board that{officially is so powerful that nuthin less than galactus's power can do anythin to it at all}was broken by cable, than nate could sure as hell break it, AND surfere's ****in skull or body.
Yea, NG is REALLY going to be a match for SS, who's thrown down with WAY more enemies, who are WAY more dangerous. He's beaten two eternals (Champion and the gun guy) outwitted Ego, survived with his body in multiple pieces, survived at the core of the earth, and much much more.
no1 is denyin what surfer has done but lets not forget what nates done too, {have u forgotten the destruction of the harvcesters by nate and the givig back of life to the entire ****in earth by nate!? among other things}
Slam into him at lightspeed and tear in him two?
Do like he did to Cable?
Blast him into oblivion?
what exactly did he DO to cable{a cable that was trying to supress his power and TALK SENSE into the surfer along with RECREATING THE entire ****in passing battlefield, and breakin surfere's board doenst count as nethin right? he destroyed cables arm in the end, big deal that army was only organic metal and class 20 dumass}
Just because Galactus SAID something, doesn't make it true. Thanos knocked Galactus with a blast before, Surfer could've easily defeated Galactus when he swallowed the Eternals. You talk like having a fraction of Galactus' power doesn't mean he can beat Nate Grey. YEARS is a VERY long time, and Nate Grey doesn't have YEARS. He's not fast enough to beat Surfer, he's not resiliant enough to damage to beat Surfer, end of story.
WHEN HE SWALLOWDED THE ETERNALS, and has he SWALLOWED the eternals now? stop talkin bullshit, nate an be as fast as he wants if he wants it, and he can STOP TIME IN LARGE LOCATIONS, ever thought of THAT?
Fanboy icons? Because I can show ways SS can beat Nate's ass six ways to sunday I'm a fanboy? Right...
u r a fanboy, but ur also illogical,
Name ONE thing Nate can do to Surfer. C'mon, you can do it... oh wait, no you can't.
yes i most certainly can he can break surfer's head just like cable broke the surfere's board, he can overload surfere by his psionic energy, he can destroy surfer in physical combat with his psionic armour which has no uppere strength level, he can destroy surfere by a single psionic spikewhich was easily powerful enough to destroy a single state and could have destroyed the entire planet as nate saw in the future, he could stop time for surfer to destroy the surefere's hyperspace faster than light travel, he could sause violent mattere reactions that could hurt surfer, he could with enought energy, telepathically **** with surfer's mind and counciounce, u want nethin more?
Get off your ass and go bring back the ST vs SS thread, read exactly what I said which goes along these lines; "There is no way of telling who could win, neither seems to have the ability to beat the other"
Let's see Issue numbers where NG beat Thanos.
Even if he did, NG, Thanos and SS are completely different characters. SS is WAY faster than Thanos, and that is why he wins this fight, not because he's stronger. If you didn't think in only two dimensions then you would realize this. Go away and learn yourself something about comic books.
THANOS can go faster than lightspeed with his comic power if he wants, he can also TELEPORT vast distances{like galactic distances} on his dan chair}
What? No way for Nate to beat Surfer?
Exactly. There is nothing for Nate to do to Surfer, so you just insult me. At least post something and add an insult, they are supposed to be like a side dish, you get one with the meal, but it's optional
im not gonna insult u or any1, im only interested in the damn forum and after all THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN FILLED ARGUMENTS ROIGHT! so stop takin everythin so personally
Research? What did you say that I didn't say?
Since when is Galactus fast in combat? He just looks at shit and obliterates it.
excuse me galactus can be faster than light if he wants,
Still nothing on how NG can beat SS.
i think every includin me has given more than enough points on hoiw nate could beat surfer so please dont make that statement again.
First and foremost i want to know where nate grey and galactus had that encounter, not to find holes in your argument but cuz i never saw that lol. and also where did nate beat thanos??? which annual...i'd also like to see that.
If i did see those examples, i'd wreak havok in all the other NG threads where people said he'd lose [against cable, especially].
Discluding those examples, i STILL think nate greys battle with surfer should in no way be compared to a less powerfull God-level cable.
Since nate grey has "died" there is no one to tell what exactly he can do. much like the millions who say magneto can control iron in blood cells..if he was dead he would never be able to do that. SAME principle here, who knows if nate lived on...he could have done some krazy shit like erasing ones total existence thru reality manipulation or entrapping a being in his own lonely alter-universe.
What we do know however [some of us] is how powerfull Nate Grey is supposed to be, and see as proof as to what he did with the little control he had and his shaman days.
In the end, one can just realize that cable broke surfers "INDESTRUCTABLE"[like surfers body] board .
and heres a little note :
Full potential Nate Grey >[greater than] God Cable.
so logically [excluding any fanboyism on my part for nate grey..or fanboyism for SS on YOUR part]..Nate Grey should be able to BREAK Silver Surfer.
Surfer's board is no where NEAR as durable as Surfer. If you read SS you'd know that it's been broken several times, yet the same blows that break his board don't break him. I wonder why?
Surfer has been cut into pieces and kept fighting. YES Cable took a lot of effort to break the board, I've posted the scans, go back and look at them. He went "UGGHH" which is what comics use to show someone exerting themselves. What else are they supposed to do, but a caption saying, "And with great effort, he destroyed the Surfer's board". When people break Surfer's board, he beats the shit out of them.
You talk about Surfer and Cable flying through the sky, what was Surfer doing there? He was listening to Cable, why do you think he wasn't blasting at him? He proved without a shadow of a doubt he knew he could fry Cable like that.
You talk about Galactus being ABLE to move at lightspeed, about Thanos being ABLE to move at lightspeed, but guess what, they never do. Guess who does? That's right, Silver Surfer.
You talk about Nate Grey destroying the Harvesters, how about when Surfer has thrown down with entire alien Armadas? When he used a small portion of his power to enchant Shalla'bal's soul to restore life to her planet? Surfer went to Mephisto's realm and beat his ass there, that's some serious power.
Nate Grey won't have time to do anything, as SS will be ontop of him in the first nanoseconds of the fight. You talk about him having the power to destroy an entire planet, etc. etc., well you gotta realize, NG has the durability of a normal human. Surfer has survived at the center of the earth, he's rammed through Kree warships, thrown down with guys who can physically break his board. Surfer is a badass to the umpteenth degree.