Darth Sidious vs. Darth Revan

I am pretty sure that Revan never killed four Jedi Masters at the same time.

No, but he was about to crush three and Bastila, or rather, this is commonly accepted. And you seem to allow commonly accepted theories as fact.

One of them, Mace Windu, being commonly thought to be better than Malak...

So? This is irrelevant. Despite the fact that Malak wasn't the most powerful being that Revan defeated, Darth Sidious didn't defeat Mace Windu. I don't see your point here.

Also, you can't say that these Jedi are no good against Sith because they weren't trained to fight them, or they "weren't fighting the real thing", because Plo Koon fought and killed Darth Rage.

Isn't Darth Rage a SuperShadow.com fabrication? If so, and I think it is considering I couldn't find a single thing that either isn't from SuperShadow itself or just regurgitated from it, then this is irrelevant.

Revan didn't personally empty the council chamber. It was his military forces and the Mandalorians that did that.

True. Sidious didn't personally destroy the Jedi Order either. It was his pre-programmed clone trooper masses that did it.

Revan killed what, three Sith Lords? Two of these Sith it turns out he had help from to other people to beat.

One was weaker than Malak, whom Revan killed on his own despite the fact that Malak was draining other Jedi for additional power. Ajunta Pall's spirit was destroyed without need of the two teammates.

Sidious has done better lightsaber against lightsaber things.

Sidious has killed three Jedi masters and matched one. Revan has killed a Mandalorian clan leader, an Echani duelist champion, an entire academy of Sith and three Sith lords. And all this is the minimum.

Yoda also beat Revan in one of these threads. Yoda looses to Sidious in ep3.

So?

You're using too many irrelevant ideas and a SuperShadow reference. Come now.

Since pretty much everything i wanted to say is said already i won't reply to anything but this..

Revan didn't personally empty the council chamber. It was his military forces and the Mandalorians that did that.

Wrong, at least 7 council members followed Revan to war, this is assuming there were only 12 at Coruscant at the end of the Mandelorian wars. According to disciple they all survived and followed Revan.

Revan did not kill them sure probably... But they did follow him and they were weaker then him...

I say probably because for as far as disciple says one followed the Sith unitl the very end until Malak was dead. Meaning that the three apprentices Malak calls to kill Revan could very well have been Masters. Of course that is just a guess, but who knows its not impossible. And you seem to like guesses

Damn dude, anytime you reference Supershadow other than calling him a dueche you lose.

Oh yeah Wanderer Im not gonna go find it but you wrote in an earlier post that Sideous didnt prove his maintain life ability......what about when he laid his hands upon Vader and willed him to live? Doesnt that qualify?

So what? Bastila kept Revan alive when he was wounded by a galatic cruiser hit right next to him...

Thats Bastila a weak young Jedi Padawan who is nothing... Absolutly nothing. An opponent that can easily be beaten especially at that time, and is only important because of her battle meditation. If she did not have it, she would have been just like Random Jedi #3 that dies on the Star Forge.. Nothing but cannon food

One. Bastila had potential. "She will be a great Jedi" Master Vandar says.

Two. We don't actually know what happens to Revan. Only what Kreia says.

Three. Don't trust Supershadow. He is a loser.

And Four. Mace Windu actually beats Sidious. So Sidious kills three Masters and then gets disarmed. You just can't beat Revan!

Oh yeah Wanderer Im not gonna go find it but you wrote in an earlier post that Sideous didnt prove his maintain life ability......what about when he laid his hands upon Vader and willed him to live? Doesnt that qualify?

When does he do that? If he does, he probably does it in RotS and I'm not aware of everything in the movie; I haven't done more with the script than gloss over it. If he does, sorry.

darth rage??

oh my God...... ❌

sorry about Darth Rage. Just felt that I would through out somecrap and see if anyone else would notice. Won't do that again.

Sidious has the Kyber crystals. These things are very powerful. With one, Luke in "Splinter of the Minds Eye" cut off Vader's arm. Obi-wan influenced his body during the fight, but it still Luke beat Vader in a fight before he even went to Dagobah to learn from Yoda the first time.

Anyway, Sidous needs some support in this fight. I know Revan would probably win, but still, Sidious would definatly a harder fight than anyone he has fought before.

SIDIOUS

Originally posted by Darth Trinew
SIDIOUS

You didn't read a damn thing, did you?

On facts Revan wins, almsot too easily, like there's no point comparing them.
But movie buffs will always say Sidious, just cos they've never heard of Revan!

Another thing, Sidious couldn't even turn Luke. I don't want arguments like 'but he's the chosen one's son etc' because if Sidious wanted to turn Luke he would have done.

My how opinions have changed over time . . .

You decided to bump a decade old thread to publicly reflect that people's opinions change over time? 😬

xD

Ant, how is the respect thread coming along?

Did you just decide to re-do it altogether?

Sidious rapes.

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
My how opinions have changed over time . . .

If anyone doubts that the Sheevites won, observe.

Sheevites are delusional over a fictitious overlord who has extremely poor body posture. He needs physical therapy ASAP.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You decided to bump a decade old thread to publicly reflect that people's opinions change over time? 😬

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
These are some pretty noteworthy changes . . .at least to me anyway. 😕

Yeah, it's not just a question of whether people's opinions change, but to what degree, in which direction, etc. Ant's attempt to look badass by mocking it is really bizarre lmao.