Silver Surfer vs Swamp Thing

Yeah, I forgot about Surfer's cosmic awareness. But still though as I said, even if Surfer manages to teleport Swamp Thing into space, I dont think it would make any difference. ST still has his powers even in space. And because of that I just dont see SS doing anything to him, regardless how uber-serious Surfer is or how necessary it is. I highly doubt destroying a planet Swamp Thing is on would kill him either(or even do any damage) since, base on what happened when he was The World Elemental, he's basically many times stronger than a planet.

Im not even sure if Surfer can teleport him at all in the first place, unless he can really just snap his fingers.

So yeah, thats just the way I see it.

It's a fight neither can win. Period.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
It's a fight neither can win. Period.

Nah, that's just what you say cause you figure elemental power can't harm the power cosmic. But that makes no senses since it can harm the presence.

Originally posted by manjaro
thats very true cuz if you remember when johnny was galan's herald he was so cosmically aware that he knew when ppl was lying and where planets and lifeforms were located, no matter how big or small they were so there is no where ST could go that SS couldnt track him

Why would ST hide? Besides, the Green is everywhere. Kinda like me.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Question:

If "The Green" is a universal elemental energy Swamp Thing wields, and he also wields fire, earth, air, and water, couldn't Surfer's cosmic awareness track him and maybe even sense his weakness (if any) like he does other characters like Gladiator for instance? I'm pretty sure Swamp Thing has an energy signature even in spirit form. Surfer's taken on Mephisto in his own realm where he has control over reality (well, he can break the laws of nature and physics). I'm really seeing this as a draw. Surfer won't normally use lethal force unless completely necessary, and even if he did, he'd have to destroy any 'elemental' material in the vacinity so ST had nothing to reform from, or at least force him to reform in a form that Surfer could counter more easily (Air, Water, Fire). I don't see Surfer destroying an entire planet to kill Swamp Thing unless he really had to, and I don't see Earth, Wind, Fire, Water and Weed taking out Surfer. Swamp Thing is basically an ugly Captain Planet. I wonder if pollution would work on him?

No.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Nah, that's just what you say cause you figure elemental power can't harm the power cosmic. But that makes no senses since it can harm the presence.

Why would ST hide? Besides, the Green is everywhere. Kinda like me.

No.

But seriously, doesn't that sound extremely stupid? Rocks and plants are going to harm "God?" Either the Presence blows ass, or the writers do.

Sure it sounds stupid, I'm certainly not argueing that, but that's the way it happened.

Hmm...... can you give us the comic issue where Swamp Thing actually battled the Presence, MERCILOUS.

No, I don't remember, and I'm not int he mood to look. Maybe tommorow, If I remember at work, at my comic shop, where I've been over 7 years.

I checked for 30 mins on the ST history site reading all of series 2 and no where does it say Swamp Thing went up against The Presence and u said series 2 had it in there but i could not find it, so that must mean u misread something somewhere. It does say tefe beat The Word which is very hard to believe but it did happen.

He has defeated Dr Fate and many other uber powerful mystics and even the combined forces of earths heroes what makes you think Swampthing cant defeat SS He is just a herald people Thanos can take Him down and has Swampthing can make Himself as strong as He wants i would think and as invunrable as He wants He can defeat SS. Its simply the truth.

Presense has control over everything imaginable. the entire DC omniverse nothing is above his power or out of his control. ST is certainly not more powerful than Thanos w/HOTU who is weaker than TOAA who is equal to the Presense.

I have yet to see an example of anything ST can do to hurt SS. I know from what I've read up on ST and what you have input, that he simply won't go down, so it comes down to the fact that neither of the combatants have the neccesary abilties to beat eachother.

DC has to many gods that are supposd to be the top dogs they have The Presance, then they have The Source, Dark Beast, The Word, the god who came out in Preacher ive already given you all reason how SS can be defeated Swampthing would use all kinds of diffrent elements i mean give me a break people He could make an army of Himself and fight the SS to death or create an army of plants with each's individual abilities evolved to the maximum as well as animals He could use air to the max creating winds that make hurricans seem like a breeze or fire so hot it makes volcanos seem dull in comparison and so on and so on He could create acid that would be even more carrossive then Alien Acid. And like i said if He can beat Dr Fate, Batman, The Word, and all these other UBER powerful beings what chance in hell does the SS have?

Originally posted by Mider
DC has to many gods that are supposd to be the top dogs they have The Presance, then they have The Source, Dark Beast, The Word, the god who came out in Preacher ive already given you all reason how SS can be defeated Swampthing would use all kinds of diffrent elements i mean give me a break people He could make an army of Himself and fight the SS to death or create an army of plants with each's individual abilities evolved to the maximum as well as animals He could use air to the max creating winds that make hurricans seem like a breeze or fire so hot it makes volcanos seem dull in comparison and so on and so on He could create acid that would be even more carrossive then Alien Acid. And like i said if He can beat Dr Fate, Batman, The Word, and all these other UBER powerful beings what chance in hell does the SS have?

he beat batman, hot dang, SS is DOOMED

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
he beat batman, hot dang, SS is DOOMED

Yeah he held Gotham to ransom for Abigail 🙂

Originally posted by Mider
DC has to many gods that are supposd to be the top dogs they have The Presance, then they have The Source, Dark Beast, The Word, the god who came out in Preacher ive already given you all reason how SS can be defeated Swampthing would use all kinds of diffrent elements i mean give me a break people He could make an army of Himself and fight the SS to death or create an army of plants with each's individual abilities evolved to the maximum as well as animals He could use air to the max creating winds that make hurricans seem like a breeze or fire so hot it makes volcanos seem dull in comparison and so on and so on He could create acid that would be even more carrossive then Alien Acid. And like i said if He can beat Dr Fate, Batman, The Word, and all these other UBER powerful beings what chance in hell does the SS have?

None of those things will do anything to Silver Surfer.

Surfer has survived in deepspace traveling at warpspeed. He has survived in the center of the earth. He has taken shots from guys who can level mountains.

SS can take all the Avengers at once, that doesn't mean he can beat ST. SS beat Mephisto, that doesn't mean he can beat ST.

Presense is the top dog of DC. how could ST beat him? I mean come on. He is the creator of the universe. Not even slightly possible.

OH ****!! HE BEAT THE BATMAN!!??? HE IS GOING TO SCREW SILVER SURFER OVER!!! 🙄

Really I have no idea who is more powerful. So it is a stalemate.
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Yup it is

Really ive seen SS get beaten by Dr Doom and Thor how He beats Swampthing i dont know He has defeated the top mystics in DC so how SS suddenly becomes better then all of them i dont know either.

Originally posted by Mider
DC has to many gods that are supposd to be the top dogs they have The Presance, then they have The Source, Dark Beast, The Word,

this isnt to argue more like fyi, just to be clear though the presence is the absolute of DC then all are below him. since DC follows the bible so closely here is how it plays out

Presence=god
The voice/source=holy spirit * spectre once said he reports to the voice* dont qoute me but i belive that both are the same(i'll investigate further)
The word=jesus
the dark beast=satan/lucifer morningstar

what we've been havong is a lot of reality warpers who claim to be god in some form. ie wally the god boy, and that other one you spoke of