Phoenix vs Franklin Richards(full power)

Started by leonheartmm9 pages

has the pheonix ever created a string of alternate universes unaided by the bastracts or any1 else?

Originally posted by Sentry
Phoenix could take on a few celestials. I don't think she could take the whole race though. Could Phoenix have resurrected Galactus if she wanted to, and restore him nearly to his full power?

I thought he had help there. *shrug* could FR have healed the entire multiverse, the nexus of all realities?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
has the pheonix ever created a string of alternate universes unaided by the bastracts or any1 else?

Are you obsessed with universe and multiverse?

So now Frank is greater than LT?

no, frank doesnt have power over the multiverse, YET, so hes CURRENTLY lower than the tribunal.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
no, frank doesnt have power over the multiverse, YET, so hes CURRENTLY lower than the tribunal.

Just cuz he created a pocket universe doesn't put him above eternity or next to him.

Frank is life in the universe.

Eternity is the universe (everything in it)

He did Resurrect Galactus, who then blasted Abraxas with the nullifier. Current Franklin gets murdered by the Phoenix Force. A full powered adult Franklin with full knowledge of his powers could stand a chance aganist the Phoenix Force imo.

Franklin ressurected Galactus as kid, his power were far from his true potentail, he created a pocket of mini-universese as kid, he created pocket universe in another reality unconsciously he did that, until Celestail told him, he creted worlds. When I think a little better, I think FR actully surpasses PF by far, he could maybe even make out of PF a joke. FR powers are above Celestail, I think there should be no doubt about that at all.

just because he did those things as a kid doesn't mean he will be more powerful as an adult. I think he is more powerful as a kid.

He is not above the celestails or PF

Originally posted by Molecule man
just because he did those things as a kid doesn't mean he will be more powerful as an adult. I think he is more powerful as a kid.

He is not above the celestails or PF

He was blockin himself from using full powers, he did those thing without achiveing his true powers. And is logicall, like human is much much stronger as an adult as 3 yeas old kid.

Reed's got all these power inhibitors set up all over the place to keep his power in check until he learns to control it. If those weren't their, his nightmares, dreams, or thoughts could destroy everyone on earth.

No he was able to overload those devices which blocked his powers.

Stop talking about full potential, I could say the same thing about MM that if he reached his full potential he could be the most powerful beings in MU.

He is just a mutant and High Evo created a device which caused all mutants powerless including FR.

Besides isn't FR currently powerless burnt himself out?

Originally posted by Sentry
Reed's got all these power inhibitors set up all over the place to keep his power in check until he learns to control it. If those weren't their, his nightmares, dreams, or thoughts could destroy everyone on earth.

Inhibitors could control his powers that shows he can be controlled(his powers).

Why did the Phoenix force choose mutants as it's avatar's? Because mutants are evolved human beings. Same as Franklin. Franklin is above MM in imo.

Originally posted by Sentry
Why did the Phoenix force choose mutants as it's avatar's? Because mutants are evolved human beings. Same as Franklin. Franklin is above MM in imo.

Am not arguing with anybody lol

Am just saying Frank is not in the league with Eternity.

I don't care about MM

Cool

Originally posted by kgkg
Am not arguing with anybody lol

Am just saying Frank is not in the league with Eternity.

I don't care about MM

I agree.

Originally posted by Molecule man
No he was able to overload those devices which blocked his powers.

Stop talking about full potential, I could say the same thing about MM that if he reached his full potential he could be the most powerful beings in MU.

He is just a mutant and High Evo created a device which caused all mutants powerless including FR.

Besides isn't FR currently powerless burnt himself out?

No, MM poetnial wasn't even never mentined as Richards, he was never seen close pwoeful as Richards, he could never achive to be most pwoerful being in MU, he is not close to Richards pwoer and Richards would make out of MM a joke.

Cube Beings are no match for Celestial. (they claimed that Celestial are too much for cubes)

If Frank at full power is greater than the celestials than MM has no chance of winning.

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
there's no real difference. PF doesnt act without its avatars, its avatars are the Phoenix (as in, the PF made sentient). They are phoenixes by mutation, like Jean Grey. The PF isn't a sentient force on its own except by drawing the life force from unborn generations in the future. Thats why it uses avatars.

Actually, the Phoenix Force is aware of itself, and it can act independently of an avatar. It just doesn't.

isn't FR currently powerless???

Evolve human beings more powerful than cosmic beings? LOL