Black Adam vs. General Zod

Started by badabing6 pages
badabing Gym rat

Originally posted by Blair Wind
uh...how fast is Mach 500?? thats how fast BA has been clocked, before he started flagging....

proof:

Lending his speed to the Flash (Jay Garrick), racing with the Flash, being clocked at MACH 500

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It's about 385,000 MPH.

DigiMark007 Forum Leader

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Zod has the same vulnerabilities as Superman, but has the extra layer of armor to help protect him (constructed for him on an alternate-timeline Krypton). Also, Black Adam isn't any more ruthless or smart than Zod. Zod's a general, and an evil one at that. His whole life revolves around battle tactics. Zod broke Superman's jaw with a single punch...Black Adam is in similar trouble. Zod 7/10.

-DM

Blair Wind The Iron Avenger

Originally posted by Tank_6603
380,500mph is mach 500.

670,616,629.384mph is the speed of light.

now tell me who's faster?

just stating how fast he is...but on a side note...has zod ever gone the speed of light? I mean if the flash is faster than superman (equal to Zod) and BA, and their ultimate level of speed is the speed of light, then how can zod go that fast???

badabing Gym rat

Black Adam was banished to the most distant star in the universe and made it back to earth in 5,000 years. The most distant star in the universe is billions of light years away. I'd say that Black Adam can exceed light speed.

Milkie Senior Member

Originally posted by Tank_6603
hmmm in order to REACH lightspeed or go past it (multiple times)? I still say Zod is faster. While I never said or even implied that zod would be able to sense magic, he could surely move out of the way of a lightning bolt headed his way...

Zod is faster

Faster is not always better. Black Adam is fast enough to keep up with him. You act like Zod is going to be going is fastest all the freakin time, nobody does that in a brawl like this not even Superman. I never said he would shoot lightning at him. Black Adam CAN'T shoot lightning TOWARDS anybody. He can call upon it and it strikes downward on him. He could grab Zod and place him in the path of it like Captain Marvel did Superman. Black adam rarely uses it anyway and hardly ever does into is Non Powered Form because he does not need to use it cause he could kick Zods ass without it.

Blair Wind The Iron Avenger

he does have magical lighting punches:

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Milkie Senior Member

Yeah and lets see his freakin armor help him against stuff like that

Milkie Senior Member

KA-FRIGGIN'-BOOM!

Validus Senior Member

Black Adam's recent showings throw me off greatly. He looked better than any other hero has against Supes in quite some time and thats including Captain Marvel which boggles my mind. In Infinite Crisis he ripped Amazo's head off without much trouble. Since JSA started in 2001 I believe, Black Adam has been on a new level.

Still, I generally put Superman (and thus Zod) a hair above Shazam's champions on a stat level. Zod is just as ruthless as Adam so it will be different than fighting against Clark however Adam's lightning punches WILL get the win if he uses them.

BA 6/10 based on his recent stuff. Factor in his entire Post Crisis history and I'd say Zod 6/10.

Tank_6603 Cybernetic Spirit
Originally posted by Blair Wind
how can zod go that fast???

see there used to be this planet called krypton............

D-Block Senior Member

I put Shazam's Champions a little above the Superfamily. And I think BA would win against ZOD and Supes

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by D-Block
I put Shazam's Champions a little above the Superfamily.

😕

I'm not sure I still buy into the theory Captain Marvel is Superman's equal much less his superior on a stat basis.

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by Milkie
WRONG

Black Adam has kept up with Jay Garrick who had to borrow Black Adam's Speed in oder to reach Light Speed. Zob in no way will be able to sense magic. Superman never has shown this feat.


Perfect example of what I mean. Jay Garrick comments that Adam's muscles begin to give out at Mach 500. In Flash #209, Superman races Wally West at 2000 miles per second. Both of these issues were written by one person. Granted Adam did well against Superman recently but then again, I would have loved to see what the result of that moon busting punch would have been.

Blair Wind The Iron Avenger

I know what your talkin about but did it really say seconds?? hmmm. Most of the time they are portrayed to be equal (when they are in the same comic at least) Too me they are equal, but I guess thats just imo

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I know what your talkin about but did it really say seconds?? hmmm. Most of the time they are portrayed to be equal (when they are in the same comic at least) Too me they are equal, but I guess thats just imo

Thing is, Clark Vs Billy is always under a special circumstance. They have two Eclipso fights, one ending in a clear loss for Billy and the recent one with Shazam and Spectre running interference. The Superman/Batman incident was right after Superman (and Batman) ran a gauntlet of heros and villains, not to mention the K-nite asteroid speeding towards Earth. Crisis Times Five and Virtue & Vice had Marvel KO Superman with lightning charged sucker punches. Another fight had a pissed Billy wrestling with a calm and talking Superman.

To me, it's the same thing as Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman supposedly being his peers when he clearly and utterly curbstomps them in actual feats. He's done too much for me to view them as his equals.

UniOmni Outrageously Dickish

Vally, you gotta take into account the political hierarchy of DC, as well as Superman's overexposure, and others nonexistent exposure. And for the record, you can't suckerpunch superman. Not possible. His senses are way too heightened to be legitimately "surprised". And even if it was a "suckerpunch", he still knocked out Superman with one hit. My lil cousin can suckerpunch me, but it wouldn't even really register, unless he has the power to one punch me. Cap has shown that he can one punch superman. Not that big of a deal.

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by UniOmni
Vally, you gotta take into account the political hierarchy of DC, as well as Superman's overexposure, and others nonexistent exposure.

That's certainly a dilemma I've been having. My problem is, how many of his high showings do we disregard before we just have to admit that maybe he is that formidable? Let's really look at this.

Superman beats the JLA and we say, "Hey! That shouldn't happen at all." Black Adam stomps a JSA team 3 times in their own book, a JSA thats superior to the JLA in more ways than one and we gawk at how awesome he is and we all gladly accept that Teth Adam is just a badass. What? How does that work? For that matter, why should we punish Superman because he has two monthlies and a never on time Batman team up book?

Originally posted by UniOmni
My lil cousin can suckerpunch me, but it wouldn't even really register, unless he has the power to one punch me. Cap has shown that he can one punch superman. Not that big of a deal.

Your little cousin doesn't charge his punches with lightning that take advantage of an inherent weakness you have. If Billy was Superman's physical peer he wouldn't need a weakness exploitation. Even Lex Luthor has rocked Clark when he's wearing K-nite armor.

badabing Gym rat

Supes and CM had 2 arm wrestling matches which were a draw. In Kingdom Come, Lex and Supes both acknowledged that CM is Superman's equal. Even the DC files lists Marvel as Superman's equal.

Blair Wind The Iron Avenger

Hey you have to mention ripping off Amazos head 😄

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by badabing
Supes and CM had 2 arm wrestling matches which were a draw. In Kingdom Come, Lex and Supes both acknowledged that CM is Superman's equal. Even The DC files lists Marvel as Superman's equal.

They always say it. They say lots of things.

Here's an example.

Superman: "You and I may be equal in power, Princess...." (referring to Wonder Woman)

How many of us believe Superman and Wonder Woman are equal in power when comparing their on panel feats? If the answer is any higher than zero, you're lying just to spite me. 😄