Black Adam vs. General Zod

Originally posted by Milkie
LOL

Eclipso (a magical being) was merged with Superman

Shazam was holding back, he could have killed them both but instead he summoned Spectre to deal with Eclipso.

It was the same body...
Nowhere did it say that Eclipso somehow made Supes less vulnerable .

Originally posted by Milkie
[BHim fighting in Asgard hasn't givin him any power. [/B]

Umm...magical beings? 1000 years of fighting them...
You know, since you claim magic pwns kryptonians?

Originally posted by Milkie
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Only 2 of these work, and they show nothing...
Defintely nothing close to the ftl speeds of kryptonians...

Originally posted by Milkie
[BYou're trying to make it out like he can fight off all magic. Most of his magic showings are PIS. DC doesn't want their boy scout to lose all the time. Funny how magic works on other magical characters but not Superman 🙄 [/B]

No...apparently you aren't getting the fact that he becomes more resistant with willpower.

You have a problem with Kryptonians..feel free to write to DC instead of complain on a vs forum. 🙂

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Supes body has taken magic bolts directly from Shazam himself and kept on coming. Black Adam himself didn't want to fight a pissed of Superman.

Zod not limiting himself like Clark would spell trouble already.

You mean like all the examples Juntai named AND the fact that he fought in Asgard for 1000 years?

Show me where it shows a Marvel fighting as fast as a kryptonian or moving anywhere near as fast.

Last I heard, the stronger and faster guy usually wins the fight.

It surely reduces the effects of it. If you don't know that...then read some comics...I thought this was common knowledge...guess I was wrong on that one.

When Zod broke Supermans jaw, wasn't it a weaker Superman than he is currently?

Who's to say Zod IS faster than Teth?
Stronger as well?

And Teth fought Flash 1 and kept up with combat speed easily in JSA.

I'm not backing either, but to say Zod is flat out more powerful is kinda unsupportable.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
It was the same body...
Nowhere did it say that Eclipso somehow made Supes less vulnerable.

Eclipso has some resistance to magic.

Umm...magical beings? 1000 years of fighting them...
You know, since you claim magic pwns kryptonians?

What issue was this? I'd like to see for myself.

Only 2 of these work, and they show nothing...
Defintely nothing close to the ftl speeds of kryptonians...

Dude the Marvel Family is just as fast as and strong as kryptonians.

Why don't you give proof that they aren't?

No...apparently you aren't getting the fact that he becomes more resistant with willpower.

Yep because will power > everything

You have a problem with Kryptonians..feel free to write to DC instead of complain on a vs forum. 🙂 [/B]

I didn't say I have a problem with them and I'm not complaining about anything. WTF?

Originally posted by Milkie

Why don't you give proof that they aren't?

Because you can't prove a negative. 😐.

Originally posted by Soljer
Because you can't prove a negative. 😐.

I'm limited because I don't have scans

If I did I'd post them

Black Adam wins. And Zod isn't faster or stronger than BA. The Marvels are just as fast and strong as the Kryptonians it's been stated many times even by supes himself. Bios even say Marvels can exceed light speed in space.

Originally posted by Milkie
Eclipso has some resistance to magic.

Nobody ever denied that Eclipso itself has magic resistance...however...where did it state ANYWHERE that he upped magic defense on Superman?

Originally posted by Milkie
What issue was this? I'd like to see for myself.

For a guy that can't provide any proof of his own...you sure ask for a lot. Check in the Superman respect forum, I posted it there long ago. I'm not going to do the work for you.

Originally posted by Milkie
Dude the Marvel Family is just as fast as and strong as kryptonians.

Why don't you give proof that they aren't?

Better yet, why don't you prove that they are. Comparable feats should do nicely.

Originally posted by Milkie
Yep because will power > everything

Glad that you learned that. Now you can move on.

Originally posted by Milkie
I didn't say I have a problem with them and I'm not complaining about anything. WTF?

Then what is this whine?

Originally posted by Milkie
You're trying to make it out like he can fight off all magic. Most of his magic showings are PIS. DC doesn't want their boy scout to lose all the time. Funny how magic works on other magical characters but not Superman

🙂 Because what you say of course is more canon than DC. 😘

I really don't see the point of contesting that the 'fact' that the Marvels have comparable speed and strength to the kryptonians....😬.

Maybe it's just me.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Nobody ever denied that Eclipso itself has magic resistance...however...where did it state ANYWHERE that he upped magic defense on Superman?

Jesus Christ

A lot a shit is not said in comic books, that doesn't mean it didn't. Superman get's a lot of crap done to him all the time. Do they Narrate it ever damn time? No.

"Superman is punched in the nuts. But is super durability allows his balls to be unharmed!"

For a guy that can't provide any proof of his own...you sure ask for a lot. Check in the Superman respect forum, I posted it there long ago. I'm not going to do the work for you.

Sorry, I'm not the one defending Superman.

Better yet, why don't you prove that they are. Comparable feats should do nicely.

Superman has traded blows with Captain Marvel and Black Adam lots of times.

Glad that you learned that. Now you can move on.

Ha!

Then what is this whine?

Nobodies whining

Can you stop with the irrelevant comments?

🙂 Because what you say of course is more canon than DC. 😘

Same guys for you.

Originally posted by Soljer
I really don't see the point of contesting that the 'fact' that the Marvels have comparable speed and strength to the kryptonians....😬.

Maybe it's just me.

Because some say Zod will win because they think he is stronger and faster.

Just read AOS 470 and these claims you people made are complete BS

Superman gettin thrashed by a Magical Rock Being. He even says either the Rock Creature is too powerful or the magic is weakening him.

And here is the fantastic lies that you people try to spread.

The actual spell (the kiss) was not even put into play, so Superman didn't do anything impressive.

And Superman was indeed, turned into "stone" for a while.

She could have easily killed him but that wasn't her goal. She wanted to possess him as well as Jimmy.

Originally posted by Milkie
Just read AOS 470 and these claims you people made are complete BS

Superman gettin thrashed by a Magical Rock Being. He even says either the Rock Creature is too powerful or the magic is weakening him.

And here is the fantastic lies that you people try to spread.

The actual spell (the kiss) was not even put into play, so Superman didn't do anything impressive.

And Superman was indeed, turned into "stone" for a while.

She could have easily killed him but that wasn't her goal. She wanted to possess him as well as Jimmy.

Congratulations...you just showed what we've said all along...Superman isn't immune to magic...he's pretty resistant though. Unless you think humans being stepped on my magical rock creatures is a normal thing.

Later on he was turned to stone...and willed himself back to normal.

Too bad Black Adam is not a skyfather level character and his magic works NOTHING like this....now....as for resistance.

As Gangbuster he resists mystical binding:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupermanvsAdvesary.jpg

He PURPOSELY takes a punch from a magical opponent and even wills himself for the blow.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupermanvsAdvesary.jpg

He's caught Thors hammer straight up.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SupermanandThorbrawlin3.jpg

What's this? 1000 year war in ASGARD? Nope..no magical beings there...and we're sure nobody used spells at all.. 🙄

I'm done for now...if you like...keep feigning ignorance after this.

Now this was Superman, who has probably the worst time with magic.

Zod was raised in a totally different environment and is far more ruthless.

Zod 7/10.

black adam 10/10. In all of thos scans I didnt see superman get punched the entire time by magic. Every punch that black adam land would be nothing but pure magic. During the time that superman body was taken over (forgot the being name that took over his body) it was stated that captain marvel didnt have to do nothing but hit superman one time with full strength and it would have killed him but he said no and thats when the being used superman strength throwing ships at metropolis.

Meh, I'm jumping on the Black Adam bandwagon. He was intense in 52 and WW III.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Congratulations...you just showed what we've said all along...Superman isn't immune to magic...he's pretty resistant though. Unless you think humans being stepped on my magical rock creatures is a normal thing.

LOL, No he's not. Superman's powers allow him not to die while being stepped on. The rock creature is a magical being but a magic wielder.

Later on he was turned to stone...and willed himself back to normal.

What! No he didn't.

He used his Heat Vision to crack the stone. Then he broke out.

More of your fantastic lies.

Too bad Black Adam is not a skyfather level character and his magic works NOTHING like this

He magic doesn't have to work like that. Black Adam proved that his magic was powerful when he flew through Spectre's head.

As Gangbuster he resists mystical binding:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupermanvsAdvesary.jpg

He PURPOSELY takes a punch from a magical opponent and even wills himself for the blow.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupermanvsAdvesary.jpg

I don't see the point of this since there is no Magic being used anywhere.

He's caught Thors hammer straight up.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SupermanandThorbrawlin3.jpg

That was a crossover which is PIS all up and down the wall and I don't even think that's canon

What's this? 1000 year war in ASGARD? Nope..no magical beings there...and we're sure nobody used spells at all.. 🙄

Oh yeah let's forget the parts where Thor gives him is Hammer and he is wearing what appears to be magical armor. As far as I can see I don't see any magic being used and he's fighting what appears to be grunts and silly dragons.

I don't see any mention of 1,000 years either. What issue was this?

I'm done for now...if you like...keep feigning ignorance after this.

Now this was Superman, who has probably the worst time with magic.

Zod was raised in a totally different environment and is far more ruthless.

Zod 7/10.

Whatever Dude.

Originally posted by Milkie

"Superman is punched in the nuts. But is super durability allows his balls to be unharmed!"

😱 😆

Originally posted by Milkie
LOL, No he's not. Superman's powers allow him not to die while being stepped on. The rock creature is a magical being but a magic wielder.

What! No he didn't.

He used his Heat Vision to crack the stone. Then he broke out.

More of your fantastic lies.

He magic doesn't have to work like that. Black Adam proved that his magic was powerful when he flew through Spectre's head.

I don't see the point of this since there is no Magic being used anywhere.

That was a crossover which is PIS all up and down the wall and I don't even think that's canon

Oh yeah let's forget the parts where Thor gives him is Hammer and he is wearing what appears to be magical armor. As far as I can see I don't see any magic being used and he's fighting what appears to be grunts and silly dragons.

I don't see any mention of 1,000 years either. What issue was this?

Whatever Dude.

First, nothing happens.
Then it's "those damn kryptonians!"
Then you can't see it.
Then it's PIS.

But you know...according to you...magic instantly pwns kryptonians...

So basically is "nuh nuh" on your behalf.

Keep up with your denial. Fine with me.