Mace Windu vs. NJO Luke Skywalker

I'm not saying he's the greatest by that point. I admit he still lacks a lot of control and dedication. btw, the fact that they couldn't fight fast has a lot to do with how we view them now. Had they had the materials they had now, whose to say both Vader and Luke wouldn't have been twirling and whirling like duels in the PT

Luke becomes the greatest Jedi ever, and the most powerful force user the galaxy has ever seen. Look at who his father was and how quickly he responded to the force. He will surpass everyone, it just takes him a good 20-30 years after ROTJ

Maybe the fight in ESB would have been better but Luke would still have defeated Vader in ROTJ by going insane with rage...

Which brings me to another point, how come Luke is seen as the most powerful fighter ever, when many fighters are dead and a lot of knowledge is lost. There are new Jedi and new enemy's but they are no Jedi. Luke may have been incredible with the force but he never learned how to fight, at least not like others did. He lacked the teachers and the knowledge to learn that...

I have to say, I'm beginning to look more fondly at the ESB and RotJ duels. They just seem darker and more compelling. Like it's not just wizards hacking at each other, but like there's a mental battle too. It's so cool.

Luke is seen as eventually the best fighter because lightsaber skill comes from the force. When you allow the force to guide you, take complete control over you and become one with it, you're pretty hard to kill. That's why Obi-Wan defeats Anakin in ROTS, the force protects him because of the mindset he is in. And he's not as good with a saber or as powerful as Anakin, but his mindset is how he wins. Luke eventually attains Obi-Wan's mindset, with the powers Anakin would have had.

I agree that the OT duels are more dramatic, but that's also because it's "a time when a lightsaber is uncommon"

yep, i hate luke cuz of his ass sucking duels, and i dont care if they couldnt make a better saber. not my god damn fault. anyways, it also annoys me, how every1 says that luke is the best, yet all he does is swing his saber, like he is squashing a bug, then accidentaly hist Vaders arm, gets a moment of enlightment, throws away his saber and thats it. Luke is the best. best my ass, he's a lil pussy f*cker.

he isn't the best in ROTJ. He is the best alive in the NJO. He can control gravity with his mind. Also, he kills an estimated 1000 Vong during the attack on Shimera's palace. Master Ikrit, a master from the old order, had trouble with like 30. Also, ever heard of teachings? Luke found a holocron and learned a lot from that, and Leia also found a holocron on the Clone Palpatine's body after he was dead. Luke also was fighting a war since he was eighteen, and that is more than the Clone Wars and KOTOR-era Jedi can say. In NJO, he is probably able to beat anyone. GL even said in one onterview, he becomes the greatest Jedi alive.

Exactly, he becomes, not is in the movies.

Still, Mace can find the shatterpoint of even inanimate objects via his ability. When I complete Shatterpoint I will have a better perspective, but honestly I think if Mace can stay alive long enough, he can find Luke's weakness. May his hip replacement?

lol

But dude, Luke buils castles with his mind, Mace can call a lightsaber to him,
WOO

Obi Wan defeated Grievious, Maul, and Anakin. It can happen.

True, but those are all opponents who were arrogant and filled with hatred.
Luke isn't, therfore his mind is more composed for battles

Not necessarily...

Has Luke ever faced a fully trained Jedi Master? Not that I remember, what Luke faced were opponents powerful yes but no Jedi. Luke his technique will be based on defeating that, but a fully trained Jedi Master. I think the technique used by Mace will give Luke a run for his money

it will, but Luke will outlast and win

If he can keep on blocking...

Luke needs the force a lot here, to be able to stand up against a Lightsaber master with superior training? Its going to be very hard for him, very hard. His only chance is keeping Mace away from him using force techniques but the second the two would use their lightsabers the fight would be decided

well fishy it is ,,get over it

I'm sorry but NJO Luke will defeat anyone. However, Darth Nihilus is the only person I think that could possibly take him down.

Darth Nihilus isn't really fair now is it? He will kill everybody

But it is, he existed in the star wars universe.
I mean Luke has more force power than anyone before him and that's not really fair, yet he still fights people

Darth Nihilus isn't really fair now is it?

I dunno. Take a ysalamari (stupidest thing ever) to dampen your own Force presence and then whip out a vibroblade. 🙂

But NJO luke can be argued about Nihilus on the other hand just wins