I think everyone is really grasping here. It seems to me that when Luke was asking her about her mother(and he clearly asks about her REAL mother) he was doing it to hear something about his real mother. Why would Luke ask about her real mother if he didn't know the people who raised her aren't their real parents? He of course already knows who their real father is. When he asks about her REAL mother even though a woman has raised her, he knows her parents aren't their birth parents. The bottom line is that it was an oversight on George Lucas' part. How in the hell can you have memories of a parent you never even saw, unless it had something to do with the Force.
what I thought was a plot hole was Mace sudden change of thoughts:
first he goes to arrest palpatine and then when anakin enters he suddenly changes his mind and wants to murder him without a trial (ok, so he bribed courts and such, but being THE traitor that created the war is too big to just ignore, if they do, they'll get replaced and a committee or whatever would have been made to purge them from corruption)
Originally posted by WindDancer
Dunno if it is consider a plot hole or not. But why did Anakin looked surprise when Padme said that she was pregnant? At the end of Episode II we clearly see her and Anakin together in the wedding and she looks pregnant. Did I missed something? 😕
But there was a way to convict Palpatine. If I remenber correctly Obi (before facing Anakin in the lava planet) and Yoda are about the leave when Obi checks the hologram records and sees Anakin kneeling to his new master Palpatine. Obi is in shock and has discover what has happen. Now if those records could be played back I'm sure the confrontaion between Mace and Palpatine would appear. Thus Mace had proof from the hologram records. Unfortunally he's dead.
Here is another thing that is also bugging me. Why is it that Obi does not recognize R2 D2 in a New Hope? He obviously worked with him during the war and despite the memory wipe the droid retains his name. Even if he did say that "I don't remenber owning any droids" he would have recognice R2 on the spot.
Originally posted by WindDancer
But there was a way to convict Palpatine. If I remenber correctly Obi (before facing Anakin in the lava planet) and Yoda are about the leave when Obi checks the hologram records and sees Anakin kneeling to his new master Palpatine. Obi is in shock and has discover what has happen. Now if those records could be played back I'm sure the confrontaion between Mace and Palpatine would appear. Thus Mace had proof from the hologram records. Unfortunally he's dead.
Huh???
That happened afterwards!
Palpatine didn't do any of that until AFTER the Jedi had been caught out.
There was no evidence at the point Mace went to him.
I think a lot of what Obi-wan told Luke was a lie. You have to remember, he is just as guilty as Vader of trying to manipulate young Luke to join his cause.
Telling him his father gave him the lightsaber was meant to entice him...just as telling him negative things about his uncle was meant to turn him against his uncle...for the right reasons, of course.
Originally posted by Lord S
I think a lot of what Obi-wan told Luke was a lie. You have to remember, he is just as guilty as Vader of trying to manipulate young Luke to join his cause.Telling him his father gave him the lightsaber was meant to entice him...just as telling him negative things about his uncle was meant to turn him against his uncle...for the right reasons, of course.
Obi-wan never flat out lies, he just tells everything from different point of views.