Darkseid vs. Juggernaut

this fight is simple.....even IF IF IF juggs by some loppsided miracle was winning....darkseid could just send him away via omega beams.....

Yup, exactly.

Does Post-Crisis have any of the telepathic power of his Pre-Crisis version? Cuz I'm pretty sure Pre-Crisis Darkseid controlled something like a billion people all at the same time... So a fraction of that and a little work to take off Juggs's helmet and it's over.

And since when can Juggernaut lift anything he wants to? He's strong, but he has limits... I'm pretty sure he's around or a little higher than base Hulk. Darkseid is still pretty strong too, and a hell of a lot smarter than Cain.

And honestly people, Juggernaut and normal Hulk are not Supes level in strength, neither is Thor. Going by feats, its not even close.

seriously...

And since when can Juggernaut lift anything he wants to? I'm pretty sure he's around or a little higher than base Hulk.

And honestly people, Juggernaut and normal Hulk are not Supes level in strength, neither is Thor. Going by feats, its not even close.

Just read Juggernauts bio at the official site.

It says when he gets a head of steam there is no object he cannot move.

Well if Thanos and Darkseid apparently stalemates one another, then Juggy is a dead man

Originally posted by Draco69
Superman once lifted a friggin aircraft carrier. Those weigh thousands of tons.

Originally posted by derrick24
jinzin every where i go youre there and you always dont know what youre talking about. how could you say that doomsday or darkseid is stronger than a being who has immeasurable strength. juggernaut can lift whatever he wants. In one comic where he was destroying a city and the x-men came trying to stop him, the guy lifted a 80 story sky scrapper off the ground with little effort, shaking it, that sounds more than a 100 tons to me. Colossus lifted a submarine out of the sea and was carrying it with 1 arm a submarine weighs between 500 to 1000 tons and juggernaut is way stronger than colossus. If you dont believe that juggernaut strength has no limit go here:
http://uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=596
or
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=96.

There's no such thing as 'Unlimited Strength'...that's a gross exaggeration. Just like that 'unstoppable' part...he has been stopped.

His strength is immeasurable, but not unlimited. Where was his unlimited strength when he was getting bitchlapped by Onslaught?

There is a limit to his strength, and it is below Darkseid, and DEFINITELY below Doomsday.

Originally posted by LordFear
Well if Thanos and Darkseid apparently stalemates one another, then Juggy is a dead man

draco sayeth:

<<Superman once lifted a friggin aircraft carrier. Those weigh thousands of tons.
Superman can lift one million tons. Juggs can't do that. Thor isn't equal strength to Superman. His max is around 200,000 tons at most.>>

and since it appears darkseid is at supes's strength level, strength difference alone would be a big difference. but juggs balances that by being so damn invulnerable . . .

draco sayeth again:

<<The Omega Effect can wipe someone out of existence as if they never existed before. They can also drain lifeforce, telepathically bombard their mind, teleport them to different dimensions or disengrate them>>

so i wonder then, could darkseid simply rip juggs's helmet off THEN use the omega effect psionically? obviously he could simply teleport him away into the sun or something, and get a cheap win, but i still wonder if juggs could handle a full blast - even darkseid said (against doomsday) that no one has ever survived the omega effect at point blank range . . .

this is an older thread, but the fight still intrigues me.

Is anybody in agreement that Juggs would make Darkseid sweat or not?

depends if the omega effect works. if he blasts him and juggs is still standing he would certainly get his attention. i just don't think (as draco and others in other threads have shown) that juggs is actually strong enough to physically beat darkseid down. so, how could juggs win this fight?

he can't....he's in over his head here...

jinzin, haven't seen you round much lately. and i agree with you. but don't you think there's a chance juggs's shields could hold up?

Hulk is stronger than Superman or Doomsday. Let's just clear that up.

Juggernaut is strong, but he isn't as strong as the Hulk, either. His infinite durability keeps him in fights against the Hulk. Juggernaut has a force field that could repel the Omega Effect altogether. Juggernaut is more durable than Doomsday, easily. Stronger? Doubtful.

This will be a long ass fight, but I don't see Darkseid hurting Juggernaut. Juggernaut's strength has never been specified, so whether or not he could hurt Darkseid is a toss up. However, Darkseid isn't winning without a Boom Tube.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Hulk is stronger than Superman or Doomsday. Let's just clear that up.

Juggernaut is strong, but he isn't as strong as the Hulk, either. His infinite durability keeps him in fights against the Hulk. Juggernaut has a force field that could repel the Omega Effect altogether. Juggernaut is more durable than Doomsday, easily. Stronger? Doubtful.

This will be a long ass fight, but I don't see Darkseid hurting Juggernaut. Juggernaut's strength has never been specified, so whether or not he could hurt Darkseid is a toss up. However, Darkseid isn't winning without a Boom Tube.

Superman, and DD has made him bleed tossed him like a *****.

I still say Darkseid wins because Jugs only option is punching (hey it worked for DD)

If darkie wants to go punch for punch Jugs drag him like DD.

Originally posted by kgkg
Why shouldn&#8217;t Jugs be able to hurt darkie?

Superman, and DD has made him bleed tossed him like a *****.

I still say Darkseid wins because Jugs only option is punching (hey it worked for DD)

If darkie wants to go punch for punch Jugs drag him like DD.

I'm talking about Darkseid letting Juggernaut hit him, not being able to hurt him.

sup leonidas...I've been spending my time in the spidey threads still.......(sigh)

anyways....I think that his shield doesn't matter...even IF it holds up...(and technically it should I suppose) darksied could just send him away via omega beams...end of fight end of story...

Thor #411-412

Juggs First Encounter With Thor:

Fed up and frustrated the thunder god hurls his hammer "for the glory of Asgard" at The Juggernaut. Cain laughs as his personal forcefield easily halts Mjolnir dead in it's tracks before it ever touches him. Cain sees Mjolnir turn and change direction and surmises that it must be returning to Thor's hand because that's what he'd read that Thor's hammer was supposed to do

If it can stop the Mjolnir in it's tracks, I don't see why his forcefields couldn't hold up to the affects of the Omega Beams/Omega Effects. Classic Juggs is damn near invulnerable with that shield in place. Could Darkseid swat away the Mjolnir with ease? I'm certain he would hurt his hand, or be knocked off his feet similar to what happened to Superman in the JLA/Avenger crossover.

Darkseid takes it 6 times out of 10, due to the fact he can win via teleportation.

If Darkseid decides to slug it out with Juggernaut to prove a point that he's the stronger, he will be in a tough fight. Could go either way.

that's not fair the hammers induced with magic....guess what one of supes' worst weaknesses is?

My point is, it stopped the Mjlonir. It could theortically stop the omega beams/omega effect. What are Darkseid's weaknesses? Superman. Does Darkseid do well against magical foes?