Apov vs Mags
I hope I'm not too late to buzz in on this. I'm a newbie and I've been cruising through the posts, and thought I'd add my unwanted opinion. I think Apocalype would win based on the fact that He's been able to take the measure of guys like Loki and the guys's even turned into a spaceship, captured the High Evolutionary and hauled his butt into space. This was the evolved giant sized High E, who by the way has whupped Galactus before. the problem is marvel is so inconsistent on power levels. magneteo is powerful, but he can be killed just like pretty much anybody else. the AoA Apocalypse was killed, but I kinda remember Marvel making him an unkillable "External High Lord Immortal", or something like that. In the end I think Apocalype would win since Magneto would eventually tire, and Apocalypse can keep grabbing energy from external sources to supplement himself.
Re: Apov vs Mags
Originally posted by maxam00
I hope I'm not too late to buzz in on this. I'm a newbie and I've been cruising through the posts, and thought I'd add my unwanted opinion. I think Apocalype would win based on the fact that He's been able to take the measure of guys like Loki and the guys's even turned into a spaceship, captured the High Evolutionary and hauled his butt into space. This was the evolved giant sized High E, who by the way has whupped Galactus before. the problem is marvel is so inconsistent on power levels. magneteo is powerful, but he can be killed just like pretty much anybody else. the AoA Apocalypse was killed, but I kinda remember Marvel making him an unkillable "External High Lord Immortal", or something like that. In the end I think Apocalype would win since Magneto would eventually tire, and Apocalypse can keep grabbing energy from external sources to supplement himself.
Ok another one to put down 🙄
Jokes. Ok here we go:
This battle is without prep time. Like i said earlier with prep time apocalypse would take this IMO. Apocalypse beat those guys you mentioned throught planning. He could not just march on their bases and do that. That really isnt debatable. Externals are immortal just like eternals however if you destroy enough of their body on a molecular level then they aint coming back from that. That is FACT.
Many characters draw on outside energy sources to augment themselves. Thats also how hulks power works, its how binarys power works. However that doesnt make them inexhaustible. Tapping into the power, drawing on it and manipulating it takes effort. Apocalypse would eventually get tired to. But not before mags has either ripped him apart again 🙄 or incinerated him. Magneto is very capable of doing this. With but a gesture he incinerated a member of the neo who was far stronger and durable than rogue for instance. When Mags uses his power ruthlessly theres few beings of earth descent that can stand against him without preparation.
That is why he is called 'perhaps the most powerful mutant on earth' time and time again. 😉
Re: Re: Apov vs Mags
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ok another one to put down 🙄Jokes. Ok here we go:
This battle is without prep time. Like i said earlier with prep time apocalypse would take this IMO. Apocalypse beat those guys you mentioned throught planning. He could not just march on their bases and do that. That really isnt debatable. Externals are immortal just like eternals however if you destroy enough of their body on a molecular level then they aint coming back from that. That is FACT.
Many characters draw on outside energy sources to augment themselves. Thats also how hulks power works, its how binarys power works. However that doesnt make them inexhaustible. Tapping into the power, drawing on it and manipulating it takes effort. Apocalypse would eventually get tired to. But not before mags has either ripped him apart again 🙄 or incinerated him. Magneto is very capable of doing this. With but a gesture he incinerated a member of the neo who was far stronger and durable than rogue for instance. When Mags uses his power ruthlessly theres few beings of earth descent that can stand against him without preparation.
That is why he is called 'perhaps the most powerful mutant on earth' time and time again. 😉
The fight...has...already.....taken....place....hello? why are we ignoring the AoA outcome of the battle? I don;t get it. Magneto ripped Apocalypse apart......literally. why are we even discussing this anymore? These two guys are the kind of supervillains that on their own can take out the entire x-men team. However facing each other, Magneto has already won in one instance, and he would most likely win again. If you want i could even create a battle scenario. Unfortunately right now i have a fever and am feeling very weak and sick.
~wickerman~
Re: Re: Re: Apov vs Mags
Originally posted by Wickerman
The fight...has...already.....taken....place....hello? why are we ignoring the AoA outcome of the battle? I don;t get it. Magneto ripped Apocalypse apart......literally. why are we even discussing this anymore? These two guys are the kind of supervillains that on their own can take out the entire x-men team. However facing each other, Magneto has already won in one instance, and he would most likely win again. If you want i could even create a battle scenario. Unfortunately right now i have a fever and am feeling very weak and sick.~wickerman~
except Apocalypse as your true savior and your health will greatly improve...my child. 😱
Re: Re: Re: Apov vs Mags
Originally posted by Wickerman
The fight...has...already.....taken....place....hello? why are we ignoring the AoA outcome of the battle? I don;t get it. Magneto ripped Apocalypse apart......literally. why are we even discussing this anymore? These two guys are the kind of supervillains that on their own can take out the entire x-men team. However facing each other, Magneto has already won in one instance, and he would most likely win again. If you want i could even create a battle scenario. Unfortunately right now i have a fever and am feeling very weak and sick.~wickerman~
Wickerman im the last person you should be directing that at. If you read thru the thread you will see that is exactly what i have been saying all along. So address the likes of Xplosive and Mainstream. They didnt wanna except the AOA outcome even though apocalypse was the same abilities wise in both realities whereas AOA Mags was weaker by half.
I then tried to show them that if the two went up against each other in 616 it would be even more hopeless for Apo cos Mags is far more powerful in this reality thanks to his rejuvenation by Alpha and Erik the Red
Re: Re: Re: Re: Apov vs Mags
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Wickerman im the last person you should be directing that at. If you read thru the thread you will see that is exactly what i have been saying all along. So address the likes of Xplosive and Mainstream. They didnt wanna except the AOA outcome even though apocalypse was the same abilities wise in both realities whereas AOA Mags was weaker by half.I then tried to show them that if the two went up against each other in 616 it would be even more hopeless for Apo cos Mags is far more powerful in this reality thanks to his rejuvenation by Alpha and Erik the Red
i usually just click the "quote" button of the last post. And the last post was yours i think. Had nothing to do with you since i know we're on the same wave length. 😉
And mainstream, right now given my state of health i'd just be willing to 🙂 (ps: there was an earthquake last night and i woke up like 30 seconds before and had a really nasty feeling something bad was gonna happen and had one of those headache thingies. And then...the earthquake came 🙁 something tells me something might be goin' down tonight as well 🙁 )
~wickerman~
Re: Re: Re: Re: Apov vs Mags
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Wickerman im the last person you should be directing that at. If you read thru the thread you will see that is exactly what i have been saying all along. So address the likes of Xplosive and Mainstream. They didnt wanna except the AOA outcome even though apocalypse was the same abilities wise in both realities whereas AOA Mags was weaker by half.I then tried to show them that if the two went up against each other in 616 it would be even more hopeless for Apo cos Mags is far more powerful in this reality thanks to his rejuvenation by Alpha and Erik the Red
GS, it was said Apocalypse in AOA was much weaker, they even put him in class 90. I see poeple voted 8 for Apocalypse and 4 for Magneto 😉.
Apocalypse is far beyond Magetno, far. Marvel has Apocalypse as more powerful being. And like I said, don't think too one sided, think objectivly, I foudn out that this forum is always lacking objective vision, sorry, but including you. And GS think now objectivly, Apocalypse is some occasion wasn't hurt by all inhumans and X-Factor combined (Black Bolt was also among them), and he was hurt not even close against High Evolutionary (rememebr High Evolutionary), and than he was hurt, actully killed by 50 % powerd Magneto in AOA, and you GalacticStorm know that 50% Magnetoo is not worth mentioning in power wise (like I said, not close worht mentioning) agiasnt all inhumans and X-Factors. And you know what, if Magneto would be helping to those inhumans and X-Factors, they would still be useless and wouldn't able able to hurt him. Apocalypse is more powerful than Magneto. Apocaypse is written many times weak, in weak state, and some times powerful. Gambit vol. 3 # 3 it was mentioned that a Celestial came down to Earth and took the human form of Garbha Sien, the External Saul, and became an Asian conquerer, and Apocalypse defeated the Celestial, making him helpless (who had shown he still had his powers), wounded him badly, and took his ship, which became his. I think Marvel has Apocalypse in higher league than Magneto.
There's a problem with Magneto suppossedly being so powerful
I know that we're to believe that magneto "perhaps", the most powerful mutant on the planet. Except if you toss off Franklin Richards since he is technically the baddest. However, for a guy so powerful, he's been laid out many times by weaker foes. the telepath stuff didn't exactly help him when Prof X shut him down. Of course, he was killed by Wolverine( then not killed), but I'm betting Wolverine couldn't take Apocalypse down. Didn't Mags get stalemated by Iceman waaay back when he was doing the snowman and carrot nose bit? I put guys who don't need to breathe or eat and can survive in space above those who can't. As for the AoA, we never really get to see what Apocalypse could do. he pretty much just hung around taking most of the series. plus, that was an alternate time lost reality. It's not like it was real time Marvel Universe , like the one where Black Cat can beat Sabretooth to a pulp, but he can handle Wolverine with no problem. See that's the problem with Marvel. They have no consistency.