Gladiator vs. Thanos

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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I know that you're not supposed to ignore every showing from the opposite side as well every showing from the guy you're defending in favor of non existent showings.

I also know that you're not supposed to throw a hissy fit and leave the forum in a fit of rage because of an inability to prove a point.

But anyway, how does ignoring every single showing of Thanos (outside of two "low showings) fit into any sort of logic whatsoever? This is a board based off comics afterall. How does ignoring a large majority of things fit into that, even going by your logic?

The problem is that Thanos has acted to faster characters with better speed and combat showings.

Why would Thanos' superior speed be mentioned? Dumb question. No where in my argument am I saying he runs at the speed of light. I'm saying his reactions are good. And considering he knocks people away who actually use their speed, there's no need for a statement.
"I'm so quick, watch me blitz this dildo, oh no I'm being slapped away like a child."
That's what you expect apparently? You know how this also works? The guy getting slapped away with no words. It doesn't take Carver intellect to figure this out. Though apparently it takes more than you're capable of.

So what, your argument is now shifting to a low feat from Thor where he stated he can't tag Wolverine and then grabbed his damn foot and swung him around like a ragdoll?
But yes, using one pis example is the way to go about saying all of Thanos' reaction feats are pis. Because this makes sense to you?
Anyway, it's been sufficiently showcased over the years that the Wolverine example was shitty writing. In many ways. Yet in reverse, it's been showcased over the years that Thanos' reactions aren't shit, so what are you going to do?
Although funnily enough your mention of Wolverine brings up another cute speed feat.
Here's Gladiator speeding trying to hit Iron Man getting snikted.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Annihilators-Earthfall002-007.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Gladiator/Annihilators-Earthfall002-009.jpg

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But yes, numerous examples of Thanos' feats were just to appease people like me. Says the Sentry fan.
They don't count because the writers were just trying to get the fans like me to download their comics because Thanos had a speed showing. This passes as logic.
Or Thor and Thanos can tag beings because they can. Either conspiracy theory bullshit or they're capable of it. Pick a card.

Yet, where are the Gladiator speed showings? ACTUAL SPEED SHOWINGS. Your only basis apparently is "nano second", yet when Surfer has the same kind of feats, and Thanos can tag Surfer...
You really are not looking for anything like proof. You have your mind made up, and it's based on the theory of just ignoring shit.

If you're going to lie like you're basing shit on ACTUAL SPEED SHOWINGS, then why is your very same argument that stuff in comics doesn't count? It's like super hypocrisy mixed with dicks in the butt.

You're basing things on comics in one breath and then saying a large majority of comics don't count in the next. You want your cake, and then you want to ram it up your ass in the next.

Also, it seems you're having the most trouble with this aside from mental deficiencies because Thanos doesn't zoom around at light speed it seems. Which aside from being retarded, it's also ignoring reaction speed.
If that's purely your issue, I can show Thanos flying at high speeds to make you not look like an ignorant buffoon. We can put this all behind you like you're keen to do in a room full of guys.

Agreed.

Now tell me what a non canon Gladiator and Superman's powers have to do with Gladiator. Throw more insults to disguise that you have a point if you need to concede here. Hopefully you leave the forum again in a huff and puff though.

Also congrats on large scale ignorance of a post. But I guess considering you're ignoring Thanos' reaction showings (all of them), it would make sense that you'd ignore large parts of posts that disprove your idiocy.

Hey, maybe by you being wrong about what's canon to Gladiator though can easily be remedied by ignoring it. That's the ticket. If you don't acknowledge it it didn't happen. Though maybe biasedly or not, this would work in my favor (just ignoring your post), considering you have literally no points but are just trying to get me to accept that comic feats don't count. I'll remember this next time you peddle some Sentry nonsense. 🙂

But anyway. Your argument is that Thanos doesn't have reaction feats because you don't like it. And that makes sense to you. Read that over and realize how stupid you are.

Thanos does have reaction feats. But they aren't as good as you think. They are against attacks that started from afar and some of them aren't really from stuff faster than Gladiator. Gladiator would be throwing fisticuffs and launching attacks from 3 feet away.

Gladiators fight with Hyperion is a showing for Gladiator.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos easily bfr'd him so his reflexes were just fine. The comics showed he can bfr the dummy and beat his team and have it down to the second when Gladiator would resurface. Masterful.

Thanos perceptions and reflexes are just fine and it showed in their interaction.

Thanos would be able to respond if Gladiator had his reflexes and used Lightspeed fighting.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos easily bfr'd him so his reflexes were just fine. The comics showed he can bfr the dummy and beat his team and have it down to the second when Gladiator would resurface. Masterful.

Thanos perceptions and reflexes are just fine and it showed in their interaction.

False dichotomy

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Somebody show Gladiator's speed actually being effective enough to even damage Thanos. It would help if he didn't get hit in the middle of it too.
there is no such thing as get hit in the middle here. Glads would see Thanos in slow motion and be able to respond even better to Thanos than Thanos can respond to him.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
False dichotomy
No, what you are doing is wrong. We don't ignore how these characters stack up against each other and instead focus on rare feats and falsely apply them to combat situations.

Thanos drums him and easily. He just easily toyed with Gladiator and a team in mass ownage fashion.

Thanos wins, easily.

Didn't Thanos already beat Glads. Such a change in thought considering Thanos would no sell him again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, what you are doing is wrong. We don't ignore how these characters stack up against each other and instead focus on rare feats and falsely apply them to combat situations.

Thanos drums him and easily. He just easily toyed with Gladiator and a team in mass ownage fashion.

Thanos wins, easily.

No you are assuming Thanos has reflexes on par of Glads based on a false dichotomy

Scans of thanos reflexes?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
[B]Nope, you are just adding your own cooking into the scan as it no where it says that He is moving at light speed and just because he CAN move at light speed it does NOT mean he is moving at light speed, so prove your claim.

Your False dichotomy is not working in here

"Thanos blocked a guy that can move at light speed, therefore it means Thanos can react to light speed"

What your argument is missing is that the character can move at light speed, yet he does not always move at high speed, that Thanos was talking to said character and COULD HAVE actually be ready with his shield.

No, for you is moving at light speed therefore Thanos can react to light speed characters.

Not only that but Gladiator has fast traveling speed AND fast combat speed reflexes, but for some reason you think this guy is ALREADY moving at light speed , where NO WHERE in the whole scan it says he is moving at light speed, it does not matter if he can move or not, otherwise lets just assume that any movement he does is performed at light speed

I'm not adding anything, you talk about logic etc. It was shown by the art that Fallen One was flying at the same rate he zipped around space and why wouldnt he attack Thanos at his top speed he knows dangerous he is and never held back In their previous encounter.

How could Thanos have already have been ready with the sheild? It wasn't even visible when they was talking and you only saw the energy once Thanos created it.

I have read it, not impressed with those reflexes at all
haha sure you've read them. Typical tactic of not reading the comic or you're just acting like "uh don't like it because it can't counter it"

Geez I wish I was a Glads fan, but he is a character MADE to loose vs top tiers no matter how strong or good he may look at the beginning in comics, He will always and most likely loose in comics[\quote] so just excuses then?

[quote]But based on scans that I have seen around Glads can fight at nanosecond reaction time, what nanosecond or even MicrosecondS feats Thanos has for you to make this claim? Blocking the fallen one?[\quote] so you have a couple of instances at best of this and that ok to use as the normal yet the instances of Thanos don't count. Go ahead and tell me who Glads beat using said Speed[\quote]

[quote]I ask again where are those feats? The False dichotomies are not working and CM fought a WEAKER Thanos, does that means that he got FASTER? or are We just assuming as always? more powerful does not means FASTER[\quote]which ones are you ignoring now? Why would t it upgrade his speed? Everything else was upgraded and after that he could tag ppl faster than he couldn't before.

[quote]Um Glads has bullet time feats, you know, Magneto is supposed to be more powerful than Quicksilver now that We watch the movie and appreciate bullet time time, I will put my money on speed.[\quote] haha you're comparing a bunch of humans to Thanos gtfo, Thanos was still able to track Runners speed despite not hitting him.

[quote]Well the Rigellian ones is Meh! where is the one in which he killed AW? that will be interesting to see

ah the old low ball tactic, you do know Thanos did that from within a pure photon block. Marvel 2in1 #2.

And as far as I know Gamma rays are not specific to weaken Glads, you might getting that confused with glads being defeated by IIR Bannerless or Shrapnel Hulk
not getting confused at all

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos would be able to respond if Gladiator had his reflexes and used Lightspeed fighting.

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We all agree then. Thanos can respond to anything Gladiator dishes out.

Thanos beats up ppl just as fast as Gladiator all the time.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
No you are assuming Thanos has reflexes on par of Glads based on a false dichotomy

Scans of thanos reflexes?

Why post the obvious then ? We see him react against the Gladiator so it is proven there otherwise this goes down to the realm of ignoring comics and posting conspiracy theories like posts ala h1.

Thanos has the Gkadiator so figured out he knew what second he would be returning.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos would be able to respond if Gladiator had his reflexes and used Lightspeed fighting.
He doesn't need to be as fast as him to react to him. Thanos just did so and with tactical precision.

Thanos has not reflexes or speed on par with people like Glads. In comics speedsters get taggeg because the story requires it, nothing else, they almost never fight to the best of their abilities but more like idiots, see Thanos vs BRB.

Get this shiet out of here people. Thanos is as fast as Hulk, reflex and speedwise. He has his shields and durability to deal with faster opponents.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Thanos has not reflexes or speed on par with people like Glads. In comics speedsters get taggeg because the story requires it, nothing else, they almost never fight to the best of their abilities but more like idiots, see Thanos vs BRB.

Get this shiet out of here people. Thanos is as fast as Hulk, reflex and speedwise. He has his shields and durability to deal with faster opponents.

so what would have helped BRB fighting to the best of his abilities done for him?

Please tell me your great theory.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Thanos has not reflexes or speed on par with people like Glads. In comics speedsters get taggeg because the story requires it, nothing else, they almost never fight to the best of their abilities but more like idiots, see Thanos vs BRB.

Get this shiet out of here people. Thanos is as fast as Hulk, reflex and speedwise. He has his shields and durability to deal with faster opponents.

Apparently he does, as he was able to BFR him without reprisal. Why make things up and ignore what is written on panel? There's a word for that type of behavior you know?

Its a Superman fan auto defense which would help them in anycase in a Thanos vs Superman fight.

Spamming "Superman could whoop him in a nano second!!!"

So Gladiator taking the time to talk and bullrushing Thanos directly at his visible shield is now reflexes or smart fighting? el oh el

BRB could have kept his distance and prolong the fight till Glads is back and SS arrive. He can fly, Thanos chair was down. Let lightining and storms rage over Thanos, sure it won't bring him down but it will allow BRB to avoid him. Once all are there the fight would start. The fight like it was portrayed was just plain as stupid. Thanos was fighting idiots, children and zombies. Nothing more. You can think what you want and pretend this all was great strategy, while it was only piss poor writing. It's embarassing to think fans will swallow bs like this as a real fight to the best of abilities. Simple.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Thanos has not reflexes or speed on par with people like Glads. In comics speedsters get taggeg because the story requires it, nothing else, they almost never fight to the best of their abilities but more like idiots, see Thanos vs BRB.

Get this shiet out of here people. Thanos is as fast as Hulk, reflex and speedwise. He has his shields and durability to deal with faster opponents.

No one ever said he was as fast as Gladiator but he does have the reflexes to beat his ass. You can't ignore the comics and rely solely on rare feats while ignoring the consistent portrayal of the characters.

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Originally posted by Stoic
Apparently he does, as he was able to BFR him without reprisal. Why make things up and ignore what is written on panel? There's a word for that type of behavior you know?
The Superman fans. They are in denial. I enjoy their pain.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
So Gladiator taking the time to talk and bullrushing Thanos directly at his visible shield is now reflexes or smart fighting? el oh el

BRB could have kept his distance and prolong the fight till Glads is back and SS arrive. He can fly, Thanos chair was down. Let lightining and storms rage over Thanos, sure it won't bring him down but it will allow BRB to avoid him. Once all are there the fight would start. The fight like it was portrayed was just plain as stupid. Thanos was fighting idiots, children and zombies. Nothing more. You can think what you want and pretend this all was great strategy, while it was only piss poor writing. It's embarassing to think fans will swallow bs like this as a real fight to the best of abilities. Simple.

so BRB avoiding Thanos is fighting to the best of his abilities?

They other Annihilators were there with Bill when he attacked Thanos, the all said show no mercy to the villain etc.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
I'm not adding anything,

Yes you are

Originally posted by Insane Titan
you talk about logic etc.

I am talking about debate rules and fallacies, and what you are doing is one of them

Originally posted by Insane Titan
It was shown by the art that Fallen One was flying at the same rate he zipped around space and why wouldnt he attack Thanos at his top speed he knows dangerous he is and never held back In their previous encounter.

You are ASSUMING and claiming, He moved at light speed and the only thing you have is: "because he can move at light speed, he should and must always do"

Originally posted by Insane Titan
How could Thanos have already have been ready with the sheild? It wasn't even visible when they was talking and you only saw the energy once Thanos created it.

I said he COULD, meaning that there could be a probability that he did, it does not mean that He was, but it COULD.

You know, like when you are talking with a guy whom you are about to fight. You are talking to him but also you are getting ready for the scrap

Originally posted by Insane Titan
haha sure you've read them. Typical tactic of not reading the comic or you're just acting like "uh don't like it because it can't counter it"

I did and if you don't believe me, that is your problem. I actually read it because of that Tyrant debate I was going to have with you

Originally posted by Insane Titan
ah the old low ball tactic, you do know Thanos did that from within a pure photon block. Marvel 2in1 #2.

That is nice and all, but him killing Warlock was a prophecy, context does not hurt anyone, Even Thanos was surprised on how easily He killed Warlock, but I just noticed and I am not sure if We are talking about the same instance

Originally posted by Insane Titan
not getting confused at all

I think you might be getting a little confused, The radiation that is supposed to hurt Gladiator it has iirc never reffered as to Gammn, but as an "unknown radiation"