Football (Soccer)

Originally posted by Deano
they have a very silly opinion? no..they are just deluded.

...Which of course, means the same thing Deano. I would consider them deluded, but they're not "wrong".

Originally posted by Deano
its provable crouch can play well in the premiership.

It's not, it's provable he's scored a couple of "important" goals. It's not provable that he's a great player because different players appeal to different people. To deny that Ronaldinho is great, would be silly in my opinion. They wouldn't be wrong though. So as much as you think it's idiotic to call Crouch shit, it's not a fact that he's not shit.

Originally posted by Deano
water is wet, sun is hot, gravity exists, ronaldinho is class, crouch is not shit..facts

Those last two are opinion. They're not facts you idiot. You think Crouch is not shit, good for you. You're no more factually correct than someone who says he's shit. It's opinion.

Originally posted by Deano
he's not shit though.

In your opinion. See how it works yet? Didn't think so...

Originally posted by Deano
if he was shit, he would play crap all game, and he woudnt be playing in the premiership, let alone for liverpool and england.
players who play well on a regular basis are not shit.

Hahahaha, so stupid. He's not shit because he's in the premiership? How further can your logic fail? He wouldn't have been in the premiership if Benitez didn't cave in to public pressure and buy him. He's not in the premiership because he kept his team up, he's in the premiership because his team got relegated and he jumped ship.

Playing for England doesn't make you a great player, or a good player necessarily. It means that in the manager's opinion, you are worth playing. What is Sven's opinion worth? Exactly.

You're just saying "He can't be shit, because this is why I don't think he is." Bullshit.

Let's stop all this "Crouch isn't shit, fact" bs. I'm not claiming that it's a fact that he's shit, because it's not. It's not a fact that he's not shit either. It's my opinion Vs your opinion and regardless of how hard you believe what you say, it's still your opinion.

Originally posted by Deano
why do you have to single out just english players? ronaldinho can take the piss out of anyone at anytime. including his own brazillian defenders.

What the hell are you on about now? I sarcastically asked if anyone saw England's best defender be made to look like a mug because it was England's best defender it happened to.

They weren't playing Russia were they?

-AC

Originally posted by Df02
im not going to apologise, since my usage is a definition of the phrase... was adequate. regardless of people remarking its been misused for hundreds of years, you knew exactly what i meant you were just trying to piss me off by being a pedantic ****, sadly though it didnt work since i used the term correctly.

Not really, but anyway...

It's a shame you got so worked-up about a little teasing. My initial post was hardly one that was done in a spiteful way. I even said in my initial post: "Forgive me for being pedantic...". I guess some people are little too sensitive...You're a mummy's boy, right?

I love Mourinho's style. It's so refreshing that he has something to say, rather than the usual banal cliches. At the end of the day - when the sun sets... - "All the world's a stage and the men / And all the men and women merely players."

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Not really, but anyway...

It's a shame you got so worked-up about a little teasing. My initial post was hardly one that was done in a spiteful way. I even said in my initial post: "Forgive me for being pedantic...". I guess some people are little too sensitive...You're a mummy's boy, right?

I love Mourinho's style. It's so refreshing that he has something to say, rather than the usual banal cliches. At the end of the day - when the sun sets... - "All the world's a stage and the men / And all the men and women merely players."

... 🙄 yea... you know i had moved on right? to football related topics. im not oversensitive i just get annoyed by people being pedantic as a way to look intelligent

Well, dear boy...Obviously that wasn't my intention, seeing as I clearly stated what I was doing and even added a "haw-haw, snoot-snoot" at the end. Anyway, there is no need to appear intelligent when one is intelligent. Look at me, I look like an idiot, but...

Anyway...Mourinho. Arrogant. I like it.

God.....AC, you're one of those people who would argue that grass isn't green, or argue that we're not all gonna die one day

What makes me laugh is how you're English, yet you insult every player we have!!! Grow up, you're English yourself, and if you like Brazil, then you're a glory-hunter, and in which case move to Brazil!!!! You make fun of Trisha getting one over on JT, but you never say things like how Ashley Cole had Cristiano Ronaldo in his pocket all through the Euro 2004 Quarter final between us and Portugal, and you say Beckham shouldn't be in the England squad either, how stupid are you?? Beckham is a fantastic player, he scores brilliant goals, best in the world at deadball situations, his range of passing and passion for the game is just undeniably amazing.....I guess next you're gonna say Lampard and Gerrard are shit too, you just argue for the sake of argueing.....Crouch is not shit, get over it already!!!!

Originally posted by Mattomic
God.....Crouch is not shit, get over it already!!!!

Woah! I'm over it already, and I agree (with everything in the large case).

Finally, let's move on...

Originally posted by Mattomic
I'll tell you why he shouldn't take James Beattie, because Peter Crouch is a better all round player, once again, this is only opinion, but you'll find very few people around who dispute it, I personally would take Crouch, because A) he's scored for England, Beattie hasn't and B) I feel he is a much better player

But as I say, each to their own

Who would you start at the World Cup then? PLease let everyone know what your 11 man lineup would be... by the way im over crouch... he has some skill because otherwise he wouldnt be playing for Liverpool

My England world cup team.

P. Robinson.

G. Neville......R. Ferdinand...J. Terry....A. Cole(if he is fit... if not K. Richardson)

D. Beckham......F. Lampard... S. Gerrard.... J. Cole. (could move Gerrard out to the left and put M. Carrick in a holding role for some games)

M. Owen(If fit if Owen doesn't make it I would play P. Crouch or D. Bent)... W. Rooney

Originally posted by T.M
My England world cup team.

P. Robinson.

G. Neville......R. Ferdinand...J. Terry....A. Cole(if he is fit... if not K. Richardson)

D. Beckham......F. Lampard... S. Gerrard.... J. Cole. (could move Gerrard out to the left and put M. Carrick in a holding role for some games)

M. Owen(If fit if Owen doesn't make it I would play P. Crouch or D. Bent)... W. Rooney

I agree, leave Joe Cole out beside Gerrard. As for forwards Rooney and Wright Phillips why because Shaun will compliment Rooney and give the ball to him if he can

But Wright Phillips isn't a forward.

My starting eleven would be as follows:

1. Paul Robinson
2. Gary Neville
3. Ashley Cole
4. Steven Gerrard
5. John Terry
6. Sol Campbell (if he can get his head sorted out)
7. David Beckham
8. Frank Lampard
9. Wayne Rooney
10. Michael Owen
11. Joe Cole

I would use Crouch towards the ass end of each game, he can make things happen, and is perfect for when Rooney and Owen have run the opposing defences ragged

Oh and to the guy who edited my post so that "not" is smaller, it's still there, so you still agreed he isn't shit hehehehe

Robinson
Neville
Cole
Terry
Woodgate(if fit... which is rare..)/King

Beckham
Cole
Carrick
Lampard

Owen/Defoe
Rooney

Ferdinand is sketchy, and not even as good as Woodgate/King when he's on top form anyway.

Originally posted by Df02
Robinson
Neville
Cole
Terry
Woodgate(if fit... which is rare..)/King

Beckham
Cole
Carrick
Lampard

Owen/Defoe
Rooney

Ferdinand is sketchy, and not even as good as Woodgate/King when he's on top form anyway.

I think Rio is better that Woodgate and King it's just Rio's concentration lets him down now and again. He is so calm that he sometimes makes mistakes. But I do think he is in better form than King (who made loads of mistakes in the Spurs v Blackburn match) and Woodgate who will probably get injured again anyway because he is so unlucky.

Originally posted by Mattomic
God.....AC, you're one of those people who would argue that grass isn't green, or argue that we're not all gonna die one day

What makes me laugh is how you're English, yet you insult every player we have!!! Grow up, you're English yourself, and if you like Brazil, then you're a glory-hunter, and in which case move to Brazil!!!! You make fun of Trisha getting one over on JT, but you never say things like how Ashley Cole had Cristiano Ronaldo in his pocket all through the Euro 2004 Quarter final between us and Portugal, and you say Beckham shouldn't be in the England squad either, how stupid are you?? Beckham is a fantastic player, he scores brilliant goals, best in the world at deadball situations, his range of passing and passion for the game is just undeniably amazing.....I guess next you're gonna say Lampard and Gerrard are shit too, you just argue for the sake of argueing.....Crouch is not shit, get over it already!!!!

Hahahaha, typical patriotic idiot. I like a team therefore I should move to their country? Shut up you ornament.

That's the way you patriots go. Instead of accepting that they are just a football team and anybody is free to support whoever they want, you diss people who don't sheepishly follow you. Sad. If I was a glory hunter I'd support whoever was doing the best. I've supported Brazil since 94 and throughout all the days when they used to get whooped by Chile and got knocked out of the Copa America. If you choose to feel that you must chain yourself to Britain, go for it.

He didn't "Get one over" on John Terry. He pushed him out the way like a piece of paper. Call him all the names you want, he's better than any English player. Cristiano Ronaldo is a one trick pony and I don't particularly think he's as good as Ashley Cole anyway.

Lampard is an amazing player. Beckham is an overrated football player now celebrity and Gerrard is just Diet Lampard. As for Crouch, you're saying get over it when you are the one who refuses to accept that everyone has different opinions on the man.

Now, next time stop being such a baby and throwing tantrums.

-AC

You should really post your messages in Brazilian.....you don't choose what country you support, you either support England or you don't, if you wanna support Brazil, give a valid reason to do so, it doesn't matter how long you've supported them, you are still a glory fan, who thinks Trisha is the best player in the world, when he is shit scared to come to the Premiership, 'cause he'd be found out, one bad tackle, and he'd go screaming back to Spain or Italy, crying and bitching about how violent English football is, i'd pick Lampard and Gerrard over him anyday.....but yes I am a patriot for my country, and it's not something to be ashamed of, it means I don't forget where I was born and raised, were you born and raised in Brazil??? So you quit you're damn bitching, and your thinking you are always right, when you know nothing about anything to do with Football!!!

Originally posted by T.M
But Wright Phillips isn't a forward.

Where in the world is there a rule that says you cant put a midfielder up front? He can play both mid and forward positions and he has a great shot.

Originally posted by El_NINO
Where in the world is there a rule that says you cant put a midfielder up front? He can play both mid and forward positions and he has a great shot.

You can play people anywhere. But he hasn't really played there and trying it out in the World Cup may be a bit risky

I think you should name all 23 mambers of the squad not just the starting 11

Originally posted by GCG
I think you should name all 23 mambers of the squad not just the starting 11

yea.

1st eleven:
GK: Robbo
RB: Neville
DC: Terry
DC: King
LB: Cole
RM: Beckham
DMC: Carrick
AMC: Lampard
LM: Cole
FC: Rooney
ST: Owen

Kirkland, Carson, Young, Carragher, Ferdinand, Bridge/Konchesky, Gerrard, Jenas, Shaun Wright Phillips, Downing, Beattie, Defoe

1. P. Robinson.

2. G. Neville......3. R. Ferdinand...4. J. Terry....5. A. Cole

6. D. Beckham......7. F. Lampard...8. S. Gerrard....9. J. Cole.

10. M. Owen...11. W. Rooney

Other:
12. D. James
13. P. Crouch
14. D. Bent
15. L. King
16. J. Carragher
17. K. Richardson
18. M. Carrick
19. S. Wright Phillips
20. J. Jenas
21. J. Defoe
22. S. Parker
23. J. Barton

(numbers are so I didn't get confused and put to many or not enough in 😛)