Football (Soccer)

Originally posted by Mattomic
You should really post your messages in Brazilian.....you don't choose what country you support, you either support England or you don't, if you wanna support Brazil, give a valid reason to do so, it doesn't matter how long you've supported them, you are still a glory fan

Oh you are funny...no...funny isn't the word. Dumb, is the word. Why should I start posting in a different language because I like the football team of Brazil? Such an idiot.

You can choose whoever you want, it's a game, kid. It's not a war. If you don't like the fact that anyone who enjoys football is free to support whoever they choose, then I suggest you start living in the real world champ.

Glory fan implies that you would like a team for the glory, so it clearly doesn't apply to me seeing as I've supported Brazil's football team (because that's all they are) through their shittest years when they couldn't win anything.

Originally posted by Mattomic
who thinks Trisha is the best player in the world

There's certainly no English player who's better than him. Funny isn't it? England have a team of good-looking hair gel models and Ronaldinho, in all his aesthetic detriment, is better at football than all of them.

Originally posted by Mattomic
when he is shit scared to come to the Premiership

Hahaha, this'll be funny. Go on...

Originally posted by Mattomic
'cause he'd be found out

Found out?

Originally posted by Mattomic
one bad tackle, and he'd go screaming back to Spain or Italy, crying and bitching about how violent English football is

This is a good thing? That England treat football as if it's a war? That's precisely what's wrong with English football. The fact that it's fans, it's patriots, are citing the violence as a good thing. Ronaldinho always plays with a smile on his face and he enjoys what he does. I'd rather play around people like him than thugs like Rooney (who I do think is a very good player) who are more famous for their off-pitch antics than their on pitch antics.

Every time Ronaldinho is in the papers it's because of his talent. The Sun put Beckham on the cover if he gets a haircut. Is this the England you're proud of? Go for it, knock yourself out. You're an idiot.

Originally posted by Mattomic
i'd pick Lampard and Gerrard over him anyday.....but yes I am a patriot for my country, and it's not something to be ashamed of, it means I don't forget where I was born and raised, were you born and raised in Brazil??? So you quit you're damn bitching, and your thinking you are always right, when you know nothing about anything to do with Football!!!

Your parents f*cked here and you were born, that's all it was. It's nothing magical, it could have happened anywhere. You can't help where you are born.

I love London and I think England is historically a great country, why? Because I've LEARNED to love it. I don't love it by default because that's moronic. You are assuming I hate England because I dislike 22 men who play football whilst representing it.

You sir, are a retard.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Oh you are funny...no...funny isn't the word. Dumb, is the word. Why should I start posting in a different language because I like the football team of Brazil? Such an idiot.

You can choose whoever you want, it's a game, kid. It's not a war. If you don't like the fact that anyone who enjoys football is free to support whoever they choose, then I suggest you start living in the real world champ.

Glory fan implies that you would like a team for the glory, so it clearly doesn't apply to me seeing as I've supported Brazil's football team (because that's all they are) through their shittest years when they couldn't win anything.

There's certainly no English player who's better than him. Funny isn't it? England have a team of good-looking hair gel models and Ronaldinho, in all his aesthetic detriment, is better at football than all of them.

Hahaha, this'll be funny. Go on...

Found out?

This is a good thing? That England treat football as if it's a war? That's precisely what's wrong with English football. The fact that it's fans, it's patriots, are citing the violence as a good thing. Ronaldinho always plays with a smile on his face and he enjoys what he does. I'd rather play around people like him than thugs like Rooney (who I do think is a very good player) who are more famous for their off-pitch antics than their on pitch antics.

Every time Ronaldinho is in the papers it's because of his talent. The Sun put Beckham on the cover if he gets a haircut. Is this the England you're proud of? Go for it, knock yourself out. You're an idiot.

Your parents f*cked here and you were born, that's all it was. It's nothing magical, it could have happened anywhere. You can't help where you are born.

I love London and I think England is historically a great country, why? Because I've LEARNED to love it. I don't love it by default because that's moronic. You are assuming I hate England because I dislike 22 men who play football whilst representing it.

You sir, are a retard.

-AC

just ignore him, sometimes arguments can be won without making the last point, just let him fight himself further into his hole

Originally posted by Mattomic
You should really post your messages in Brazilian...

Brazilian.. 😂

You mean Portuguese.

Originally posted by T.M
Brazilian.. 😂

You mean Portuguese.

Hahaha, nice one. I didn't notice that.

-AC

Soooo...anybody know how Barca vs. Chelsea ended? 😬

Barca won 3-2 on aggregate.

Ronaldinho charged through their defence after Chelsea were dominated, then smacked a shot past Cech.

Chelsea then got awarded a penalty they shouldn't have. 1-1 on the night, 3-2 on aggregate I think.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Ronaldinho charged through their defence after Chelsea were dominated, then smacked a shot past Cech.

Chelsea then got awarded a penalty they shouldn't have. 1-1 on the night, 3-2 on aggregate I think.

-AC

✅

the pen was a joke 😂 Chelsea didn't deserve a goal last night. Barca dominated through out the 2 legs.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Ronaldinho charged through their defence after Chelsea were dominated, then smacked a shot past Cech.

Chelsea then got awarded a penalty they shouldn't have. 1-1 on the night, 3-2 on aggregate I think.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Ronaldinho charged through their defence after Chelsea were dominated, then smacked a shot past Cech.

Chelsea then got awarded a penalty they shouldn't have. 1-1 on the night, 3-2 on aggregate I think.

-AC

its a shame Chelsea got that shoddy penalty... woulda been nice for Mourinho to have nothing to fall back on.
it always makes me laugh how desperate he is to keep his ego from being dented in any small way.

i mean if any other manager lost to Barca in that manner theyd say 'fair enough, we were outplayed' because they were... but he gets a very very questionable penalty in the final minute of injury time and uses it as grounds for saying the better team lost... pathetic really

That's good, insult me!!!! And for the record, I said Brazilian, because if i'd have said Portugese, it wouldn't have sounded right

Don't call me kid either, you ****ing moron!!!

Originally posted by Mattomic
That's good, insult me!!!! And for the record, I said Brazilian, because if i'd have said Portugese, it wouldn't have sounded right

Don't call me kid either, you ****ing moron!!!

So you said it wrong because it sounded better to you? Yeah, sure. Haha, funny kid.

-AC

I'd actually acknowledge you, if ya had a clue what you were talking about.....but being as it seems that you're talking out your ass, i'll be here and willing to argue with you, when you're actually talking sense, until then, quit pissing about

And yes.....kid, I did get it wrong on purpose, because if i'd have said Portugese, you could easily have said "Well I don't support Portugal"

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
[B]...Which of course, means the same thing Deano. I would consider them deluded, but they're not "wrong".

yes they are. saying ronaldinho isnt a great footballer makes them wrong. lets stop denying it.

It's not, it's provable he's scored a couple of "important" goals. It's not provable that he's a great player because different players appeal to different people. To deny that Ronaldinho is great, would be silly in my opinion. They wouldn't be wrong though. So as much as you think it's idiotic to call Crouch shit, it's not a fact that he's not shit.

it is provable because he is brilliantly consistant, and he has scored 23 goals in the premiership in one season. scored 10 this season( ok not great and he knows he can score more, same with morientes) if it wasnt provable crouch coudnt play in the premiership, benitez wouldnt of bought him, and he certainly wouldnt be playing for england.

Those last two are opinion. They're not facts you idiot. You think Crouch is not shit, good for you. You're no more factually correct than someone who says he's shit. It's opinion.

they are all facts. crouch isnt a 'shit' player. saying he is too shit for england IS an 'opinion' worth arguing. saying he is too shit for liverpools standards is an opinion. crouch is factually not shit.

In your opinion. See how it works yet? Didn't think so...

I see how you think it works..

Hahahaha, so stupid. He's not shit because he's in the premiership? How further can your logic fail? He wouldn't have been in the premiership if Benitez didn't cave in to public pressure and buy him.

Benitez wasnt pressured to buy him. he bought him because he saw potential in him. He is not shit because he has proven he is consistant and also proven to score goals. Players have been too shit to compete in the premiership, this is not the case with crouch, is good enough for the premiership.

Playing for England doesn't make you a great player, or a good player necessarily. It means that in the manager's opinion, you are worth playing. What is Sven's opinion worth? Exactly.

In my opinion he would of been given the england shirt whoever was in charge. Sven is tactically shit, and coudnt motivate anyone. but i think he was right to give crouch a chance.

You're just saying "He can't be shit, because this is why I don't think he is." Bullshit.

The only thing you have on him is that 'he is too tall''he isnt scoring enough goals(this season). thats the only thing you can say.

Let's stop all this "Crouch isn't shit, fact" bs. I'm not claiming that it's a fact that he's shit, because it's not. It's not a fact that he's not shit either. It's my opinion Vs your opinion and regardless of how hard you believe what you say, it's still your opinion.[/qoute]

Some people just misunderstand opinions from facts.

[quote]What the hell are you on about now? I sarcastically asked if anyone saw England's best defender be made to look like a mug because it was England's best defender it happened to.

he didnt make him look a mug. terry made himself look like a mug by trying to bash him out the way instead of concentrating on the ball.

I see barcelona going to the final. And deservedly so. I also think arsenal can get there if they keep playing lovely football. It would be the best final we could hope for

This would be my england team

robinson

Neville carragher terry Cole

..............gerrard
.........Beckham.Lampard

cole.............................Rooney

..............Owen

having someone holding is vital. playing just gerrard and lampard together wont work. i dont think dropping either of them will work either
.............................

Arsenal played excellent tonight. Looked the better team in every department.

James, David GK
Robinson, Paul GK
Green, Robert GK

Neville, Gary RB
Carragher, Jamie RB
Ferdinand, Rio CB
Terry, John CB
Young, Luke CB
King, Ledley CB
Bridge, Wayne LB
Ashley Cole LB

Wright-Phillips, RW
Gerrard, Steven CM
Beckham, David CM
Lampard, Frank CM
Cole, Joe CM
Carrick, Michael CM
Jenas, Jermaine CM
Richardson, Kieran AM

Defoe, Jermain Str
Owen ,Michael Str
Rooney, Wayne Str
Bent, Darren Str

I have a bad feeling about Rio Ferdinand being there but he is experienced.

Originally posted by Mattomic
I'd actually acknowledge you, if ya had a clue what you were talking about.....but being as it seems that you're talking out your ass, i'll be here and willing to argue with you, when you're actually talking sense, until then, quit pissing about

You clearly are acknowledging me with more baby-ish idiocy though aren't you, boy?

Originally posted by Mattomic
And yes.....kid, I did get it wrong on purpose, because if i'd have said Portugese, you could easily have said "Well I don't support Portugal"

Seeing as we were discussing Brazil and that's the language they speak, no I wouldn't have. You clearly believed they spoke Brazilian, kid. Stupid child.

Originally posted by Deano
yes they are. saying ronaldinho isnt a great footballer makes them wrong. lets stop denying it.

They're not wrong, just stupid. A girl who says Britney Spears makes better music than Black Sabbath isn't provably wrong as much as it's incredibly dumb. It's opinion. Just like if someone said Ronaldinho isn't great.

Originally posted by Deano
it is provable because he is brilliantly consistant, and he has scored 23 goals in the premiership in one season. scored 10 this season( ok not great and he knows he can score more, same with morientes) if it wasnt provable crouch coudnt play in the premiership, benitez wouldnt of bought him, and he certainly wouldnt be playing for england.

Knowing/thinking you can score more and actually doing it are two different things.

If Benitez didn't buy Crouch, Crouch would be playing in division one right now, because nobody else wanted the man. Then would he have been in the England team? No. Benitez bought Crouch due to hype and Sven drafted him because of hype.

Originally posted by Deano
they are all facts. crouch isnt a 'shit' player. saying he is too shit for england IS an 'opinion' worth arguing. saying he is too shit for liverpools standards is an opinion. crouch is factually not shit.

They're not facts and I'm not continually going over it with you.

Originally posted by Deano
I see how you think it works..

No, that's factually how it is. Dictionary definition the world over, you are trying to push your opinion of what a fact is and that doesn't make it so. Your opinion is that a fact is something that is very obvious, that's not true. You cannot prove Crouch isn't shit, you can only show why you don't think he is.

Originally posted by Deano
Benitez wasnt pressured to buy him. he bought him because he saw potential in him. He is not shit because he has proven he is consistant and also proven to score goals. Players have been too shit to compete in the premiership, this is not the case with crouch, is good enough for the premiership.

I never said Crouch wasn't good enough for the premiership, I said being IN it doesn't make you good by default.

Every player has been proven to score goals, what's your point? Big whoop it did for Southampton and he scored there more than he has ever. They're fighting to win the league, oh no they're not. They got relegated.

Originally posted by Deano
In my opinion he would of been given the england shirt whoever was in charge. Sven is tactically shit, and coudnt motivate anyone. but i think he was right to give crouch a chance.

That's bs. If you agree with Sven's choice to draft Crouch, fine. To say he would have got the shirt no matter what is silly. He wouldn't have got the shirt no matter what if Mourinho, Wenger or Allardyce managed England.

Originally posted by Deano
The only thing you have on him is that 'he is too tall''he isnt scoring enough goals(this season). thats the only thing you can say.

It's the only thing I need to say. I only need to say "Crouch is shit." You can't prove me wrong, I can't prove you wrong because you obviously like Crouch. It's all about preference, there's no fact with preference.

I'm not here to prove that Crouch is shit, you're here to try and prove he isn't, and you'll never succeed.

Originally posted by Deano
Some people just misunderstand opinions from facts.

EG: You.

Opinion: Belief upheld with confidence but with no substantial proof.

^ "Crouch isn't shit".

Originally posted by Deano
he didnt make him look a mug. terry made himself look like a mug by trying to bash him out the way instead of concentrating on the ball.

I see barcelona going to the final. And deservedly so. I also think arsenal can get there if they keep playing lovely football. It would be the best final we could hope for

He PUSHED Terry away, what game were you watching?

I obviously want Arsenal to get to the finals being the team I support, but I think they'll have to stop trying TOO hard. They always seem to play TOO good and end up trying to shoot too late or lose possession. Henry sometimes takes that one touch too many.

Arsenal need a striker who can whack it with one touch.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Arsenal need a striker who can whack it with one touch.

-AC

Crouch 😱

I never said Crouch wasn't good enough for the premiership, I said being IN it doesn't make you good by default.

so he is good enough for the premiership? buts he's shit? im lost.

That's bs. If you agree with Sven's choice to draft Crouch, fine. To say he would have got the shirt no matter what is silly. He wouldn't have got the shirt no matter what if Mourinho, Wenger or Allardyce managed England.

my opinion is that he would of been given a chance. whether he would of been taken to the world cup is another story.

I'm not here to prove that Crouch is shit, you're here to try and prove he isn't, and you'll never succeed.

if people fail to understand, no i wont succeed. your right.

Opinion: Belief upheld with confidence but with no substantial proof.

^ "Crouch isn't shit". - there is substantial proof. shit players dont last 1 season anywhere.

crouch is too shit for liverpools standards - opinion

ronaldinho is class - there is substantial proof. anyone who says otherwise is wrong..because they dont understand. simple as.

I obviously want Arsenal to get to the finals being the team I support, but I think they'll have to stop trying TOO hard. They always seem to play TOO good and end up trying to shoot too late or lose possession. Henry sometimes takes that one touch too many.

Arsenal need a striker who can whack it with one touch.

They need a crespo type striker. someone like him would of put that game to bed way before. if they can avoid milan and barcelona, i think they could get far.

They need to discover that swagger in the premiership now.

Originally posted by Sweet Child Of Mine
Oh and to the guy who edited my post so that "not" is smaller, it's still there, so you still agreed he isn't shit hehehehe

(Sweet Child Of Mine, I guess your blinkers block out qualifiers in brackets. In which case, why am I typing this? Hmm, I don't know. Some people...)