I also think that since Owen lost some of his pace he isn´t as good as he used to be, but still better than Defoe as far as technical ability and positioning is concerned.
Can´t see Owen playing for England again especially with Theo Walcott around. Walcott has more pace & skill, the only thing he lacks is experience. Him and Rooney are probably the future of England striking force.
Originally posted by Deano
at the end of the day, if england are in the world cup facing a top class team, and the ball drops to someone in the box, i would rather it drop to owen. He'll get you more goals than anyone
What do you mean?
If the ball drops to anyone in the box, i.e; a poacher's position, then most strikers are not going to miss.
More to the point, Owen HASN'T been scoring more goals than anyone, and that's precisely why he's regarded as a hasbeen, because he is one. People are still so intent on praising him, though, that all he has to do is score a couple of goals within a game of each other and people say "He's back". He's not back.
He's still a striker, and he's still going to score goals because, shockingly, that's his job. He doesn't have that extra element that made him maybe a bit more lethal than others; his pace.
-AC
thing is, would you rather have someone aging play for england or someone who, with experience will get better and better? owens been a good player, although i've never rated him highly myself. hes aged and therefore not as effective as he once may have been. partly i think because he plays for newcastle. with a better team he'd do a lot better, just needs better service. but at the same time i'd go for potential over someone whos aged a lot and although has valuable experience, just cant cut it as much as the younger players.
On this rare occasion Ill have to agree with AC, Owen without pace isn´t world class, and theres players like Walcott with pace who are the future of the England team.
Thats been the problem with previous England managers, they kept selecting the same players their predecessors did, and failed because of it.
owen is a world class striker. the only reason the top four are unwilling to sign him is because he is injury prone.
and he has evolved his game since then though. he hasnt got much pace now but did shearer have pace? he, like shearer did, made the right runs and was better positioned to score goals.
the england argentina friendly was a prime example. no one else could of popped up from anywhere and fired in two goals. the point is that owen will get more goals for england than someone like bent or defoe. defoe has had his chance before and blew it many times.
walcott is great but id play him on the wings.
Originally posted by Deano
owen is a world class striker. the only reason the top four are unwilling to sign him is because he is injury prone.and he has evolved his game since then though. he hasnt got much pace now but did shearer have pace? he, like shearer did, made the right runs and was better positioned to score goals.
the england argentina friendly was a prime example. no one else could of popped up from anywhere and fired in two goals. the point is that owen will get more goals for england than someone like bent or defoe. defoe has had his chance before and blew it many times.
walcott is great but id play him on the wings.
I agree that Owen is still a very, very good player. I'm not sure if I'd still call him 'world class', but I wouldn't call Walcott that either- not yet. I disagree about Defoe, though. He'll do a good job for England if given a run in the team, though I don't think he's an ideal partner for Rooney; I'd rather he played with Heskey or Crouch...
thing with shearer though is that hes always been quite strong too, something owen lacks. hes a decent player and if involved for england, i think he would help teach defoe and make him a better player. bring him on with 30 mins where his pace would match up better with players who are fatigued and he could cause trouble. but i'd prefer to use walcott, defoe, rooney. space for one more, maybe experience is good for the others to feed off.
How can you compare Shearer to Owen, they are two totally different sort of strikers. 😱 😆 😱
Owen:- small, technically excellent and amazing pace WERE his tradmarks
Shearer:- Big, robust, good in the penalty area, excellent header of the ball, slow in comparison to Owen.
Dean Ashton is more Shearer type player and could do with an England shot
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, and him dealing with it has resulted in him being barely good enough for Newcastle United.Why do you think he failed at Real Madrid and wasn't wanted back anymore?
-AC
failed at real madrid? he scored 20 goals in 44 games. half of the time he was on the bench aswell. he had the season's highest ratio of goals scored to number of minutes played.
he was never gonna get a real chance. the fans loved raul and ronaldo too much.
I must admit he didn´t get a fair chance at Real Madrid, he kept coming on as joker and scored lots of goals, and did well actually. But look at their squad, he was never going to get a full game with Ronaldo the Phenomenon and Raul the home boy in the team to mention a couple of players.
The thing is that was a couple of years ago, and now he´s past his best.
The thing is, Raul is like Owen now.
Way past his best but still getting results on occasion. The difference is, when Raul pulls something out, you can tell it's from the ability he had as a once great player.
Owen was never a Messi, he was fast when faced with a defender.
He can't just turn on his old pace, and the chances he finishes are the ones you'd expect a striker earning upward of 80 grand a week to finish.
-AC