Originally posted by Omega Vision
Morrison gives all his characters the best feats ever.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Morrison gives all his characters the best feats ever.
Originally posted by batdude123
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Morrison gives all his characters the best feats ever. Except Wonder Woman. He doesn't seem to like Wonder Woman very much.
She still gets some good moments, but she tends to get large-scale background tasks while someone else fights the main villain.
I.e. Superman fights Asmodel, Diana holds up his city sized ship that burns her flesh at the touch. Or leading the external attack against Mageddon while Superman goes on the inside.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Morrison gives all his characters the best feats ever. Except Wonder Woman. He doesn't seem to like Wonder Woman very much.
JLA: Earth 2 was also really good for Kyle.
Boxing in the entire Crime Syndicate, especially Ultraman, for hours? O_O
With that kind of power, Kyle should never lose a fight, ever.
Originally posted by -Pr-[devil's advocate] well strictly from a logical standpoint, the pulling of earth feat was presumably a 33% type deal give or take, but nobody was pulling say 50% that as much is clear. (and there wasn't any holding back there by any party since the earth was in danger and had to be moved.)
he's strong, but not as strong as superman
with that being said, how could you give superman a strength advantage that would make a major difference between the two? especially in a combat situation given the vast array of j'onn's powers that can be used in tandem
Originally posted by -Pr-
the best description of j'onn for me is the jack of all trades, master of none one. he's strong, but not as strong as superman and so on and so forth (as someone already said).lol @ him being superman with extra powers, though.
More or less, except he excels at telepathy. He's probably one of the top telepaths in comics.
So, you know how Wolverine's tactics kind of fall apart against someone as durable as Superman?
MM can do that. I posted him impaling Etrigan, and I've seen what Morrison had him do to Ultraman. He basically turned him into a human pin cushion. You could actually see little spikes going through his arms and body. Also, Kanto's invulnerable, and the firepits can't even harm him where it harmed Superman, and he was scared of MM's sword arm.
Screw the invisibility. mindscrews, phase shifting, I just want to see MM eviscerate people. 😄
Originally posted by psycho gundam
[devil's advocate] well strictly from a logical standpoint, the pulling of earth feat was presumably a 33% type deal give or take, but nobody was pulling say 50% that as much is clear. (and there wasn't any holding back there by any party since the earth was in danger and had to be moved.)with that being said, how could you give superman a strength advantage that would make a major difference between the two? especially in a combat situation given the vast array of j'onn's powers that can be used in tandem
because he's stronger? 😛
yes, it's not going to be the deal breaker given j'onn's versatility, but kal isn't exactly a one trick pony either.
the pulling of the earth feat, granted, but superman has higher strength feats that that, including one of moving the earth with only one other person.
Originally posted by cdtm
More or less, except he excels at telepathy. He's probably one of the top telepaths in comics.
i'd give him that, but even he's been beaten by telepaths/kept out by strong minds before.
Originally posted by -Pr-
because he's stronger? 😛yes, it's not going to be the deal breaker given j'onn's versatility, but kal isn't exactly a one trick pony either.
the pulling of the earth feat, granted, but superman has higher strength feats that that, including one of moving the earth with only one other person.
i'd give him that, but even he's been beaten by telepaths/kept out by strong minds before.
True, but it's hard to know where his limitations begin and his personal ethics end.
Unlike a certain high level telepath in Marvel, he doesn't like invading someones mind without their permission, and there's some depths he simply won't go to.
Originally posted by cdtm
True, but it's hard to know where his limitations begin and his personal ethics end.Unlike a certain high level telepath in Marvel, he doesn't like invading someones mind without their permission, and there's some depths he simply won't go to.
true.
that, but i'm also talking about his defences. with a combination of brute force and telepathy, he was beaten by despero, and he even had help from aquaman (who is himself, imo, a very powerful telepath).
Originally posted by psycho gundam
with that being said, how could you give superman a strength advantage that would make a major difference between the two? especially in a combat situation given the vast array of j'onn's powers that can be used in tandem
Because multiple characters have stated so.
everyone mentions MM invisibility
superman doesnt have normal vision and i am willing to bet that he will be able to see him if not sense him
superman can also vibrate really giving him intangibility
all in all even if he gets in a mind battle superman wins
you will out power MM by his sheer will power. i doubt there is one hero in marvel or DCU that has more will power than superman