Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
😆 insane 😆
Originally posted by AdventChild
big talk for someone who doesn't have a strong reality on fights....your sig gives me all the info i need to judge...along with you avi...not to mention the lack of facts you are coming up with.... 🙄
Lack of facts, such as what? You give me a fact.
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If it was a real street fight without a doubt Ali would fall. I have cold facts to support this statement : The Story of Muhammed Ali vs Antonio Inoki
Ali fought a pro-wrestler in what was known as one of the first televised mixed martial arts events (sort of). To this day in the MMA world, it is known as a legendary fight, and nobody here realizes the genius tactics of Inoki.
Ali thought he was going to have it easy against some stupid Japanese Pro-Wrestler. Ali was familiar with Pro Wrestling at the time as he based his entire charisma off Georgous George, and he knew it wasn't real. (Not everyone did at the time)
Ali scouted Inoki a few days before the fight, and got scared as hell when he saw the grappling that Inoki was doing. He demanded a change to the rules.
1. Since Inoki wore no gloves, he was not permitted to use any closed fist punches, or any strikes to the head.
2. Inoki was not allowed to grapple with Ali or take him down to the ground.
The rules were heavily stacked in Ali's favor, and it was going to take one hell of a gameplan for Inoki to defeat the worlds greatest fighter. Throughout the fight Inoki used diving leg kicks to attack Ali's mobility and possibly leave his legs so weak that he could not stand or gain enough ground to throw a punch. This strategy left Ali unable to attack him with crisp punches as he was always wear of Inoki dropping with another leg kick. The bout was scored a draw by all three judges and this was in spite of Inoki losing one point late in the fight for inactivity.
The crowd booed non-stop and were furious with the lackluster fight they were watching. Journalists did nothing but trash the fight and the western world only heard of "Ali fighting some Japanese Martial Artist who fought like a little girl and was running the whole match". But days later when the specific rules for the match were revealed to the public, and people became aware of the great strategy that Inoki used to battle Ali, he became a legend in Japan. And to this day stadiums will roar louder for him than for any current fighter.
Ali continued his great boxing career and went down as arguably the greatest of all time. After his retirement his managers revealed that a large part of it was due to Inoki's leg kicks on Ali, and that he had never been the same since.
Truly one of the most important fights in the history of man to man combat. Not the most exciting, but so much was at stake, and so much came out of it. Currently Inoki and Ali are good friends and visit each other yearly at the Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye events where Ali is always a guest of honor. Ali Gave Inoki his "Bom-Ba-Ye" theme song in tribute to his fighting spirit.
There you have it and this guy Inoki as great a martial artist as he was could not be compared to Bruce Lee who at that time had been working on martial art, encompassing the best of the striking and grappling arts.
Come on people the giant basketballer abudul karem jabbar was a student of Bruce and they really did fight each other, the man is one record of saying not once did he ever touch Lee. Lee was not just an actor he was a fighter and never, ever shied away from proving that he was the best.
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Ali "fought"I noki in 1976 Ali was then over the top ,and Inoki spend most of the fight on his back on the floor kicking at Alis legs.
The match was a laugh with Inokis " he cant knock me down if I aint up" strategy.
Point is Ali outweigh Lee by pretty much, being as mobile and quick as Ali was in his prime his wheight would give him the advantage
Indeed...! And Ali was abiding by Boxing rules at the time....were it on a street situation, he'd probably be booting hell out of Inoki's legs too.....
Inoki had more leg range than Lee, and as already said more weight, and didn't so much fight as lie there and wait for Ali to come in...
A smaller man wouldn't be so lucky, and especially in a "Gloves off" situation where 'anything goes' against Ali in his prime.... Doom I still forecast for Lee...... The man who said it would be madness to fight Ali, realising the futility....
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
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Originally posted by AdventChild
umm thanks...
-BlueDragon- Read what I'm writting alright and try understanding it okay? Alright now, Ali is bigger, as fast, has a farther range of attack and overall and all around better than Lee. I'm not sure how old you are but you need to understand the Physics behind all of this. If Lee was only don't excersies with his own weight, that must mean he wasn't very strong at all. As for Ali, not only was he able to do more than his own weight considering the training he had to he was also a great fighting tactitian...and i really don't want to have to bring up the point about Brucey taking anabolic steroids..too late... any way I understand your loyalty to bruce lee and i see where you're coming from but...It's just not realistic...
Wouldn't say it bette myself 👆
Bruce Lee is a thousand times faster then Ali, I thougt everybody knew that, hes strong as a mountain, havint you seen any pictures of him? mucles muscles and more muscles I doubt that Ali would even get to land a hit on him, he would have been lying on the floor before he even streched his arm out 5 inces...