ok aside from the movies, lets talk about fighting styles. Ali is a boxer, and bruce lee is a martial artist. ali was trained to fight other boxers...bruce lee was trained to fight other martial artists. now as we know, there are many styles in martial arts, so to cope with the diversity of his opponents bruce lee trained in a number of styles which i mentioned on the previous page. bruce lee was capable of fighting a boxer, but no way was Ali capable of fighting a martial artist of multiple disciplines. and plus, if bruce lee could send a person to the floor with a one inch punch, imagine what he'd do with 20 inches. the point is, bruce lee knows where to hit a guy to end the fight quickly. ali may have the stamina of a bull, but nobody can withstand a bruce lee punch right in the solar plexus. and like i said before, bruce lee was also good with his legs, and could break your leg with a kick before u even realised he hit u. i have a deep respect for boxing, its a tough discipline thats not meant for just anybody, but as a fighting style, its not as diverse as martial arts, so its most likely that lee would win the fight.
Originally posted by Matrix_man
ok aside from the movies, lets talk about fighting styles. Ali is a boxer, and bruce lee is a martial artist. ali was trained to fight other boxers...bruce lee was trained to fight other martial artists. now as we know, there are many styles in martial arts, so to cope with the diversity of his opponents bruce lee trained in a number of styles which i mentioned on the previous page. bruce lee was capable of fighting a boxer, but no way was Ali capable of fighting a martial artist of multiple disciplines. and plus, if bruce lee could send a person to the floor with a one inch punch, imagine what he'd do with 20 inches. the point is, bruce lee knows where to hit a guy to end the fight quickly. ali may have the stamina of a bull, but nobody can withstand a bruce lee punch right in the solar plexus. and like i said before, bruce lee was also good with his legs, and could break your leg with a kick before u even realised he hit u. i have a deep respect for boxing, its a tough discipline thats not meant for just anybody, but as a fighting style, its not as diverse as martial arts, so its most likely that lee would win the fight.
How do you know all of this. Martial Arts is basically defense and evasion. No offence, no one in UFC uses martial arts. And the one inch punch takes him a minute to prepare, by that time he'll be knocked out
Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
How do you know all of this. Martial Arts is basically defense and evasion. No offence, no one in UFC uses martial arts. And the one inch punch takes him a minute to prepare, by that time he'll be knocked out
Yeah they do, but that's not the issue....(MMA)mix martial arts is used in UFC just incase you didn't know..any way...I've seen some decent fights....it's very much indeed a boxer can take on a martial artist but as well as a martial artist can take on a boxer...I'm going to say it's ignorant to say one of them would win, it's simply how they are trained. In my opinion ali was better trainned there for i think he would win...
Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
How do you know all of this. Martial Arts is basically defense and evasion. No offence, no one in UFC uses martial arts. And the one inch punch takes him a minute to prepare, by that time he'll be knocked out
Dude all the fighters in the UFC nowdays train in multiple styles Ju Jitsu is a martial art the brazillian fighters usein the UFC if a boxer got in the ring with the Ice man he would be killed because the Ice Man is a striker and he can grapple Ali isnt well rounded Bruce Lee is known for his incredible speed and his knowledge of fighting styles all I said was in the movies they had to shoot it like in slow motion because he punched so fast
Originally posted by Droopy
Dude all the fighters in the UFC nowdays train in multiple styles Ju Jitsu is a martial art the brazillian fighters usein the UFC if a boxer got in the ring with the Ice man he would be killed because the Ice Man is a striker and he can grapple Ali isnt well rounded Bruce Lee is known for his incredible speed and his knowledge of fighting styles all I said was in the movies they had to shoot it like in slow motion because he punched so fast
It's all about Physics buddy...
Originally posted by Matrix_man
ok aside from the movies, lets talk about fighting styles. Ali is a boxer, and bruce lee is a martial artist. ali was trained to fight other boxers...bruce lee was trained to fight other martial artists. now as we know, there are many styles in martial arts, so to cope with the diversity of his opponents bruce lee trained in a number of styles which i mentioned on the previous page. bruce lee was capable of fighting a boxer, but no way was Ali capable of fighting a martial artist of multiple disciplines. and plus, if bruce lee could send a person to the floor with a one inch punch, imagine what he'd do with 20 inches. the point is, bruce lee knows where to hit a guy to end the fight quickly. ali may have the stamina of a bull, but nobody can withstand a bruce lee punch right in the solar plexus. and like i said before, bruce lee was also good with his legs, and could break your leg with a kick before u even realised he hit u. i have a deep respect for boxing, its a tough discipline thats not meant for just anybody, but as a fighting style, its not as diverse as martial arts, so its most likely that lee would win the fight.
Ok but Id like to see Lee trying to throw bodyshots in on a man almost twice his size, with equal speed double the power who headhunts...
The first jab followed by uppercut would ensure KO and the following combinations of hooks and uppercuts'd just be overkill, knocking Mr.Lee around like flying rag doll....
And also, you are forgetting that Ali took bodyshots from way-more-powerful hitters than Lee...
Incidentally, Boxing is also technically a 'Martial Art' too..
Wirly's Physicis Lesson
I wanted to add also to all this discussion certainly size matters however as Wirly described how punching works the only thing left to add to his piece that is about 20 pages back is that most of the power any athlete generates somes from the hips up. Its all about the speed and use of major muscles as well as leverage from the standpoint of where the power is generated from.
Pound for pound I would put my money on Lee and not so much due to his fighting skills as to the fact that quite a bit of Ali's game was out of the ring and physcological......lol just listen to the interviews of the guys he beat......THEY HATED him and made mistakes due to this in the ring alot.
By the way great topic 🙄
Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
How do you know all of this. Martial Arts is basically defense and evasion. No offence, no one in UFC uses martial arts. And the one inch punch takes him a minute to prepare, by that time he'll be knocked out
first of all, bruce lee wasnt just any old martial artist. the man was a master of Jeet Kune-Do. this non classical style most certainly WAS offensive. and by the way, i didnt say lee would actually use the one inch punch on ali..that was just a party piece of his...what i was showing is that bruce lee's punches are a reckonable force, even for ali
Ok but Id like to see Lee trying to throw bodyshots in on a man almost twice his size, with equal speed double the power who headhunts...The first jab followed by uppercut would ensure KO and the following
combinations of hooks and uppercuts'd just be overkill, knocking Mr.Lee around like flying rag doll....
And also, you are forgetting that Ali took bodyshots from way-more-powerful hitters than Lee...
Incidentally, Boxing is also technically a 'Martial Art' too..
ur being unrealistic..lee wasnt just another chump boxer who would serve as a punching bag for ali. lee was trained in how to take a hit..his movements were as fluid as water, so you cant be sure that a single punch could KO him, as he wasnt opposing the force of the punch, but harmonising with it, decreasing its force.
also, lee didnt just "throw" bodyshots like another boxer. lee never started a fight with a technique in mind. his technique was the result of his opponents technique. every fighter gives opportunities for his opponent to hit him at some point..lee was a master at reading the opportunities and taking them. theres no doubt he could hit ali
finally, bruce lee always said that one of the more important features of his style was that it lacked any sort of rhythm...thus ali would have been stumped, cos he fought all his carrer against boxers who had rhythm in their footwork, their blocking, their punches etc. he wouldnt know what to expect from lee, becase each fight of his is different from any other. lee said that as a master of Jeet Kune-Do, his ideal opponent would be a rhythmic fighter who was wholly aggresive and went all out (just like ali)...because such a fighter is the easiest for him to read and defeat.
Originally posted by Matrix_man
ur being unrealistic..lee wasnt just another chump boxer who would serve as a punching bag for ali. lee was trained in how to take a hit..his movements were as fluid as water, so you cant be sure that a single punch could KO him, as he wasnt opposing the force of the punch, but harmonising with it, decreasing its force.also, lee didnt just "throw" bodyshots like another boxer. lee never started a fight with a technique in mind. his technique was the result of his opponents technique. every fighter gives opportunities for his opponent to hit him at some point..lee was a master at reading the opportunities and taking them. theres no doubt he could hit ali
finally, bruce lee always said that one of the more important features of his style was that it lacked any sort of rhythm...thus ali would have been stumped, cos he fought all his carrer against boxers who had rhythm in their footwork, their blocking, their punches etc. he wouldnt know what to expect from lee, becase each fight of his is different from any other. lee said that as a master of Jeet Kune-Do, his ideal opponent would be a rhythmic fighter who was wholly aggresive and went all out (just like ali)...because such a fighter is the easiest for him to read and defeat.
😆 Take a hit? The guy hardly got into fights
Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
😆 Take a hit? The guy hardly got into fights
Bruce Lee mastered Kung Fue by the time he was like 17 he got into kung fue because he was street kid that hung out with gangs and he needed displain he got into fights do some research because you sound stupid and ignorant 😛